posted December 11, 2002 02:12 AM              

it is said of us that we need answers and to search for truth. many of us overlap with the beginning of the arrival of the indigo children. neptune in scorpio was a big part of the sixties: the stones and the beatles and david bowie were there going through psychodramas of a sexual and public nature. drugs were there especially pot and lsd. and also hippies were there.

i am thirtythree as i write this but i have a notion that this will become a very long and intense thread as people step forward with their identifications and insights...

i have an obtuse triangle connecting my part of fortune in piscese
my sun conjunct lilith the asteroid in cancer
and my neptune just at the outer edge of scorpio (26 deg) in an out of sign conjunction with mars at one degree sag. what does all this mean? well i don't know yet. but i like to msoh. do you know what moshing is? i like to mosh. think that goes along with mars in sag conj nept in scorpio

hey astronauts:

the old duality is for teh birds, and for the age of pisces: without mars energy and motivation we couldn't go anywhere and without saturns determination and structure what could we do when we got there? without the poets of intensity that pluto and neptune have provided dull chowderheads would be all over making all the decisions instead of where we have cul-de-sacs where we can get away and be free and wild. now of cours i have been a chowderhead at times...

nonetheless i believe that neptune in scorpio people have a lot to say -- so somebody say something

posted December 11, 2002 09:08 AM              

* They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
* They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
* Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
* They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
* They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
* They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
* They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
* They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
* They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
* They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

posted December 14, 2002 04:07 PM              

Somehow You Survived

If you lived as a child in the 60's or the 70's, looking back, it's hard
to believe that you have lived as long as you have.................

As children, you rode in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special
treat.

Baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.

No childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and
when you rode your bikes, you had no helmets.

Drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors.

Spent hours building go-carts out of scraps and then rode
down the hill, only to find out you forgot the brakes. After running into
the bushes a few times you learned to solve the problem.

You would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as you were
back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach you all day.
No cell phones. Unthinkable.

Played dodge ball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. You got
cut and broke bones and broke teeth and there were no lawsuits from
these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame but yourself.
Remember accidents?

Kids had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned
to get over it.

You ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soda but you were
never overweight.........you were always outside playing.

You shared one grape soda with four friends, from one bottle and no one
died from this?

You did not have Play stations, Nintendo 64, X Boxes, video games at all,
99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal
cellular phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms,
..............You had friends.

You went outside and found them. You rode bikes or walked to a friend's
home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and
talked to them. Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By
ourselves! Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How
did you do it?

Kids made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and although
they were told it would happen, they did not put out very many eyes, nor did
the worms live inside them forever.

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who
didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment..... Some students
weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held back to
repeat the same grade.....Horrors.

Tests were not adjusted for any reason.

Your actions were your own. Consequences were expected. No one to hide
behind.

The idea of a parent bailing you out if you broke a law was unheard of.
They actually sided with the law, imagine that!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem
solvers and inventors, ever.

The past 50 years has been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

You had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and learned how
to deal with life.

And you're one of them.

posted December 15, 2002 05:41 AM              

I have to print this gem out for my husband too, as well as the kids!

Oh the freedom of running around all day till dark, with nobody able to get a hold of you, wasn't it fantastic?

And the pushbike, first the BMX, then it graduated to a "racer" . My god, I got hit by three cars on those bikes......and still lived to tell the tale, and all without a lawsuit or helmet!

We got into fights constantly, I was told by my parents that they wouldn't fight my battles for me, but I didn't mind, I fought them all happily myself.

My hubby and I still laugh that we actually made it through those years alive, as it still seems nothing short of a miracle that we managed to pull it all off!

I really sympathise with all of our parents....we where all bloody wild!

Thanks for sharing that Carlo, I felt like I'd been put into a time machine!