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Jaqueline
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posted January 02, 2003 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" What is a Yod ? "


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Cat
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posted January 02, 2003 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jakie
Here's some info for you.......
Sue

The Yod, also known as the "Finger of God" is a 12th Harmonic aspect pattern which consists of three plants, two of which Sextile each other, and the third which forms a Quincunx (150° aspect, which is 5/12 of a circle) to each of the two other planets. The planet forming the two Quincunx aspects, called the apex planet, must also be the fastest-moving of the three planets in order for the configuration to be a "true" Yod. In other words, Pluto (the slowest-moving planet) can never be the apex planet, while the Moon (the fastest-moving planet)

can never be one of the base planets.

To understand a Yod, we first have to understand the Quincunx aspect. Quincunxes occur between signs that have nothing in common by polarity, modality, or element. Even though the two planets have nothing in common with each other, they do have an undeniable connection . Since they feel so different, the natural tendency is to try and find a point of balance between them, as would happen with two Opposing planets. However, since the two signs have no common ground between them, there is no point of balance with a Quincunx. This energy can become quite frustrating, and the most common urge with a Quincunx is the feeling that some sort of an adjustment must be made. In order to resolve the tension, one of the two planets is going to have to act in a manner that is contrary to the nature of its sign, and therefore both difficult and uncomfortable.

I should take a moment here and mention that all Quincunxes are not created equal. Some Quincunxes have an easier time finding a point of balance because the two signs are linked in other ways ­ either by common rulership (Aries and Scorpio are both ruled by Mars; Taurus and Libra are both ruled by Venus), by Antiscia (Solstice points; signs that are equally "powerful"; these are signs that mirror each other across the 0° Cancer/Capricorn axis), or by Contra-Antiscia (signs that are equally-rising, signs that mirror each other across the 0° Aries/Libra axis). And there are some Quincunxes that occur between signs that truly have nothing in common, and are considered to be "averse". For more information on this, visit the "Ask Kevin Archives" and look under "Yod".

Yods tend to represent a crisis in timing. What usually happens when a Yod is triggered is that we tend to react too quickly with the first sextile planet, and then we tend to wait too long to respond with the second sextile planet. The release point, the time when it is truly appropriate to take action, is the point opposite the Apex planet, which is also the midpoint of the sextile. When a Yod has been integrated and when we actually learn when and how to respond with it, the sextile planets tend to work together to stimulate a significant shift in how the apex planet functions.

A Yod forms an acute isosceles triangle, which from a sacred geometry standpoint means that this aspect pattern operates on what the Greeks called the "soul" level, but which refers to what we would consider the mental/emotional/astral plane. Quincunxes and Sextiles are not "action" aspects, and Yods tend to express more as mental discomfort than as anything physical. With Yods, we often feel that we are missing some crucial understanding, a single piece of information that will help us to transcend the frustration and the subtle but very irritating sense that things are not quite as they should be. When a Yod is integrated, and when we eventually learn how and when to take action when it is triggered, we can often catch a glimpse of that higher understanding as the energy of the sextile pushes the apex planet towards a higher, more cosmic perspective.

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theFajita
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posted January 02, 2003 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jakie do you have a yod in your chart??

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posted January 02, 2003 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat...

I would only ammend one thought that you presented.. you state that quincunxes: (I prefer the term INCONJUNCT)

'Quincunxes and Sextiles are not "action" aspects, and Yods tend to express more as mental discomfort than as anything physical.'

Well in my experience with Medical Astrology, the Inconjunct is prevalent. Granted many illnesses occur first as a mental/spiritual state before they create disease in the body.. but the physical manifestation is certainly implied by the Inconjunct.

Just an observation.

Blessings...

A

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Jaqueline
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posted January 03, 2003 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Sue

I understood your explanation and I'll study it a lot...

Danita, I don't have a Yod in my chart, in reality everything began when Bissie commented that I had the Sun in 28 degrees of Leo, which is Regulus, the fixed "royal" star.
I did a research on Regulus and did I find the map of Steve Case, CEO of AOL ( is he still ? ) and I found that he was born on August 21, the same day that me, and he also has the sun in 28 degrees of Leo.... I'm still not talking about the Yod, but my mind doesn't work in a straight line...
,anyway, I found in my researches references to Yod, but as they were not very detailed, I thought about asking help to the "always kind" astrologers of Lindaland.

Thanks Aselzion.
I have a question. Which is the difference between Inconjunct and Quincunxe ?

I was reading in a book of karmic astrology that Quincunxe is an ambivalent aspect, it indicates old karmics habits that still are not fastened positively or negatively. Yet, anyway, it is an evolutionary aspect.

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Cat
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posted January 03, 2003 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jakie
There's no difference between Quincunx and Inconjunct. They mean exactly the same thing, which is 150°
I have no idea why the same aspect has two different names.
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posted January 03, 2003 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jakie...

In Traditional Astrology as practiced by William Lilly, Master Horary Astrologer, BOTH the SemiSextile aspect of 60 degrees and the 150 degree aspects were called INCONJUNCTS. I think that it was due to the fact that both of those aspect link signs that have little or nothing in common (with the exceptions noted above by Cat).

The 150 degree aspect some call the Quincunx as it represens 5/12th of the zodiacal circle. I just prefer the term Inconjunct because to me it symbolizes the somewhat discordant and IRRITATING nature of the aspect. Many people use the word ADJUSTMENT as it's keyword... I happen to think it's the IRRITATION that causes the need for that adjustment.. but I may be splitting hairs.

Also, when I think of the IRRITATING nature of the inconjunct, I picture the grain of sand that gets into the oyster and IRRITATES it to the point that it secretes that substance that ultimately becomes a PEARL. In other words.. it ain't all bad! But it IS IRRITATING!

Hope this helps...

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Jaqueline
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posted January 03, 2003 09:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Sue and Aselzion

I understood that it was the same aspect with two names, I didn't just understand the reason of the two names. Now I did .

Yes, it can be an irritation aspect, yet, it can also be an aspect that if it's not very well adjusted, can have a quite difficult effect.
If my memory doesn't fail, Hitler had 11 Quincunxes / Inconjuncts in his chart, that obviously were badly adjusted...

Thanks again

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Jakie

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Annie Kuzma
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posted February 07, 2003 08:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter Quincunx Neptune.I have Neptune in Scoripo, in the 7th house direct.
Does that mean my husband was found on a "soul" level, cause he sure dosen't irritate me?

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posted February 14, 2003 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, why can't a slower moving planet be the apex of the Yod? Also, can angles be a part of a Yod?

My son's father had a something of a 'Yod' (though I just learned that name for it), or so I thought, but now I'm told it's not a 'true' Yod because Pluto was the apex.
Hm. Perhaps it's also not valid because one of the bases was the ASC.

It seems significant when I hear that the apex planet is also referred to as the 'finger of god' and then I consider the chart I cast for his fatal accident in which Pluto was a very significant factor.
The 'Yod' in his natal chart was a sextile between saturn and ASC with Pluto in the 7th as an apex...

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posted December 25, 2012 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very helpful thread.

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posted December 31, 2012 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(double-posted sorry about that)

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posted December 31, 2012 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I agree, lovelyleo! Very helpful information here.

I just finished listening to Dee's podcast I found through link in her post at LL Astrology 2.0 http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/217146.html
"Anne Ortlee...Weekly Weather, December 30, 2012"
Listened to the podcast off her website.

Anne Ortelee explains "YOD"

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TrueTyme4Us
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posted February 11, 2013 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTyme4Us     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cat, i know this is off topic, but your expertise is so great that i hope you will give me and my hubby some advice... Either here or by emailing us.

If you visit TrueTyme.org, you will see a unique sun and moon clock and calendar, which shows sun time and moon time as well as the passing of the month and the year.

Our queztion: How soon if ever, for general natural astrology purposes and maybe medical astrology ones, do you think we should begin thinking about adding other risings and settings, and passings both above and below the horizon?

Warmest regards, Jackie and Yale

quote:
Originally posted by Cat:
Hey Jakie
Here's some info for you.......
Sue

The Yod, also known as the "Finger of God" is a 12th Harmonic aspect pattern which consists of three plants, two of which Sextile each other, and the third which forms a Quincunx (150° aspect, which is 5/12 of a circle) to each of the two other planets. The planet forming the two Quincunx aspects, called the apex planet, must also be the fastest-moving of the three planets in order for the configuration to be a "true" Yod. In other words, Pluto (the slowest-moving planet) can never be the apex planet, while the Moon (the fastest-moving planet)

can never be one of the base planets.

To understand a Yod, we first have to understand the Quincunx aspect. Quincunxes occur between signs that have nothing in common by polarity, modality, or element. Even though the two planets have nothing in common with each other, they do have an undeniable connection . Since they feel so different, the natural tendency is to try and find a point of balance between them, as would happen with two Opposing planets. However, since the two signs have no common ground between them, there is no point of balance with a Quincunx. This energy can become quite frustrating, and the most common urge with a Quincunx is the feeling that some sort of an adjustment must be made. In order to resolve the tension, one of the two planets is going to have to act in a manner that is contrary to the nature of its sign, and therefore both difficult and uncomfortable.

I should take a moment here and mention that all Quincunxes are not created equal. Some Quincunxes have an easier time finding a point of balance because the two signs are linked in other ways ­ either by common rulership (Aries and Scorpio are both ruled by Mars; Taurus and Libra are both ruled by Venus), by Antiscia (Solstice points; signs that are equally "powerful"; these are signs that mirror each other across the 0° Cancer/Capricorn axis), or by Contra-Antiscia (signs that are equally-rising, signs that mirror each other across the 0° Aries/Libra axis). And there are some Quincunxes that occur between signs that truly have nothing in common, and are considered to be "averse". For more information on this, visit the "Ask Kevin Archives" and look under "Yod".

Yods tend to represent a crisis in timing. What usually happens when a Yod is triggered is that we tend to react too quickly with the first sextile planet, and then we tend to wait too long to respond with the second sextile planet. The release point, the time when it is truly appropriate to take action, is the point opposite the Apex planet, which is also the midpoint of the sextile. When a Yod has been integrated and when we actually learn when and how to respond with it, the sextile planets tend to work together to stimulate a significant shift in how the apex planet functions.

A Yod forms an acute isosceles triangle, which from a sacred geometry standpoint means that this aspect pattern operates on what the Greeks called the "soul" level, but which refers to what we would consider the mental/emotional/astral plane. Quincunxes and Sextiles are not "action" aspects, and Yods tend to express more as mental discomfort than as anything physical. With Yods, we often feel that we are missing some crucial understanding, a single piece of information that will help us to transcend the frustration and the subtle but very irritating sense that things are not quite as they should be. When a Yod is integrated, and when we eventually learn how and when to take action when it is triggered, we can often catch a glimpse of that higher understanding as the energy of the sextile pushes the apex planet towards a higher, more cosmic perspective.


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posted February 11, 2013 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unhappyapathy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TrueTyme4Us:
Hi Cat, i know this is off topic, but your expertise is so great that i hope you will give me and my hubby some advice... Either here or by emailing us.

If you visit TrueTyme.org, you will see a unique sun and moon clock and calendar, which shows sun time and moon time as well as the passing of the month and the year.

Our queztion: How soon if ever, for general natural astrology purposes and maybe medical astrology ones, do you think we should begin thinking about adding other risings and settings, and passings both above and below the horizon?

Warmest regards, Jackie and Yale


Unfortunately, Cat hasn't posted here for literally ten years now. I don't think she still uses the site, especially since she never replied since the last post and isn't active on the other topics.

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posted February 12, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTyme4Us     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by unhappyapathy:
Unfortunately, Cat hasn't posted here for literally ten years now. I don't think she still uses the site, especially since she never replied since the last post and isn't active on the other topics.

Much thanks for the feedback. Hope Cat is well. But as there are many many others here with astrology expertise, hopefully some of you experts will be able to tell us when we should begin considering adding other dynamic astrology icons to the sun and moon clock and calendar ones which we now are displaying on TrueTyme per our web site?

Love, Jackie (and Yale)

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posted March 07, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Cat, as I read this, you say that the Apex planet cannot be a slow moving planet for it to be a true Yod. I have a Yod and the Apex planet is Dias, quincunx to Artemis sextile Aphrodite. Would it be interpreted any differently than a 'True' Yod?

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posted March 14, 2013 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Cat hasn't returned since our hacking in 2009.

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