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Purpleflame
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posted January 14, 2003 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, I have been reading all the Magi Astrology info for the last year but could not get it to really make sense. This week I have obtained the correct birth year for this man and what a difference it makes. Now that I KNOW this is correct I would absolutely be delighted if you could take a little peek and tell me if this casts some LIGHT on this situation. Thanks Donna, am really enjoying figuring this out and would sooooo love your input and insight.. Love Flame This is a most IMPORTANT guy to me and I do appreciate your time, energy and wisdom. It looks very !! to me but would like your 'take' on it.Do you see it showing linkages? What do they suggest?

A sincere apology to any of you who have helped me using the incorrect data.I am so very sorry but so much more positive as this new data makes sense.

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Purpleflame
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posted January 16, 2003 12:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Just wanted to say, If Jup and Venus are conjunct is that good? It looks like his Jup is Sag 19R and it fits with my Sag Sun 15, Venus 21, Chiron 23 and Ascendent 27. Looks like Donna is busy so would love some input so if anyone can help me by looking at this please do.Love Flame

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Donna
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posted January 21, 2003 01:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Flame,

Boy, I have really been busy, I just signed on and it says my last visit was Jan 14!! That is a long time for me, I try to get here at least once a day, even if it is for a short time.

To answer your questions, there are better aspects in the corrected birthdata. In fact, there is that Cinderella Linkage between your Chiron and his Venus by way of the contra-parallel. His Jupiter conjunct your Venus is considered to be a Loyalty Linkage and is found in marriage couples more often than any other Linkage other than the Chiron ones.

Another thing, you two have something very important that will contribute to the relationship, that is, you have Saturn Balance. This means there are two Saturn aspects to your chart from his and two Saturn apects from his chart to yours. This gives balance and makes certain that neither of you have that Saturn restriction upon the other more so than one. That is where the balance comes in and keeps it on an even keel.

Oh, and don't worry about giving the wrong data before, I am just glad you got the correct year, because it actually does make a difference and for the good, I might add.

Donna

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Purpleflame
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posted January 22, 2003 11:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, I was worried about you as it did seem like a while since I saw you post. Glad you're fine and a big thankyou for taking a look. I do think the charts are more compatible with this correct birthtime. Thank God. I wondered though at a little tidbit I saw you post as to Juno as there is a bit of a conjunction in our charts. On the web it looks fine but your Magi info sounds ouch. If you wish I would welcome a private e.
It sure was nice to see that our Venus/Jup is very promising and I do love the sound of a Loyalty linkage. Good for the soul and the heart. I look forward to your view of how the transits are looking now. Love Flame
Donna, I really appreciate you being so understanding about my having the wrong birthyear before. Thanks for being so wonderfully forgiving and for your good wishes.

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Purpleflame
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posted February 25, 2003 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, Just visited the Magi site and was reading about the Dominant linkage. Then I looked again at our charts and wondered.. is the Moon in Scorp at 20 (mine) and his Chiron at Scorp 18(his) also a Chiron/Moon linkage? Just trying to understand this and feel they do seem to be on to something here.Also what about Saturn trines? His Saturn at Leo 24 and my Chiron at Sag 23? Do they use the Vertex at all? If their books are sold out how can I get one?
Hope you're fine and that your life is going along just as you planned it.. Love Flame and Donna, thanks so much for being here for us.

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Donna
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posted February 26, 2003 03:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Flame,

Yes, your Moon and his Chiron would be a linkage.

Even though the trine is considered a linkage, when Saturn is involved it is harsher because it denotes the Saturn person having a high level of influence over the destiny of the Chiron person. This just gives the Saturn person the upper hand, but it is considered neither positive or negative.

Right now, The Magi Society hasn't addressed the Vertex, they say they will eventually, but so far haven't. They don't do anything until the planets are just right.

As far as their books, there may be stores that do have them in stock. I just saw one of their books at the local Barnes and Noble in my town. You could probably do a search online at Amazon or Barnes and Noble or even Borders and perhaps come up with one. I think when they say their books are sold out, it means all the printed books are distributed to sellers and they have none in their publishing warehouse.

Thanks for your good wishes, and kind words. Just wish I could be here more, sometimes I don't feel like I do enough, .

Donna

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Purpleflame
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posted February 26, 2003 09:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again Donna for your expertise. I do appreciate your answering my queries and think of you as very knowledgeable. Think of it as the Quality of your answers vs the Quantity and look how fast you responded. I love the above comment about the Saturn stuff between us being balanced. I think the 'upperhand' is just that he has found himself 'holding up' the pace as he has prior commitments that need dealing with. That suits Saturn to a tee.Thanks too, for the info about the books. I will take a look. Love Flame
p.s. I am looking forward to transiting Jupiter to 'light up' my Venus and then Chiron as it moves through the latter part of Leo. Yes!Haven't I learned a lot?

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Purpleflame
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posted March 09, 2003 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, I got the book called Key to Success in Love and Money and am doing my best to try and understand all the data. Great book! First, the aspects in ones' own personal chart. I do think I have a few great ones as I have Venus CHiron conjunct (within 2) and I also have Venus and Pluto trine within 2
NOW I am trying to understand these aspects when they link with anothers aspects to form linkages. So, if I have the Venus and Pluto aspect and his Jupiter trines my Pluto exactly and sits 2 away from my Venus do I call that a linkage?eg Me sag venus 21 and him jup sag 19 and me Pluto leo 19 What kind of linkages do these form?
Next I also have a Chiron linkage with him that involves Saturn. His Saturn at leo 24 trines my Chiron at sag 23 and my Venus at sag 21.Is that a Romantic Super Linkage? Thanks Donna This is very interesting and I do think I like the take on my own personal aspects of having a Venus/Chiron conjunct and a Venus/Pluto trine.I know you mentioned some linkages above but I think these are involving the two aspects of mine and one of his.
I hope that you are fine. Love Flame

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Donna
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posted March 11, 2003 06:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Flame,

Wow, cool, you got the book. Yes, it is an amazing book, full of great info.

The linkage you inquired about between his Jupiter and your Venus is called a Loyalty Linkage, or a Peace Linkage. The Magi say this is the linkage found more often in lifelong married couples than any other except for Chiron Linkages. This helps to build a mutually forgiving relationship and the highest degree of harmony between two persons.

That is a SATURN LINKAGE. His Saturn and your Chiron. This linkage is frequently found in married couples. It is a very strong bond BUT you are the Passive Person of this Saturn Linkage and this person usually can have a high level of influence over both you and your destiny. The hallmark of this Saturn Linkage is that this person normally has the upper hand in your relationship. This linkage works better if it is the female the Saturn person links to.

Isn't it great when you can actually see some great personal aspects? I always find it gives a perk up type boost to one when they need it the most.

I am fine, thanks for asking.

Donna

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Purpleflame
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posted March 11, 2003 07:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Donna. I guess I am still trying to figure out the Romantic Super linkages. They state on page 137 about Chiron being involved so they say first an aspect and then the link to the others Saturn. SO,,,I said ok I have the VEnus and Chiron conjunct and then his Saturn links to my CHiron. Is th
at a Romantic Super Linkage?

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Donna
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posted March 11, 2003 11:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I understand, yes, it is considered A Romantic Super Linkage. You will notice later in the book, they write about JoAnne Woodward and Paul Newman having that aspect. Look how long their marriage is going strong!!
What year was he born? I have '49 and '48 and I forget which is the correct one.

Donna

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Purpleflame
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posted March 13, 2003 12:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh thankyou for the excellent news. I do think the Romantic Super linkages spell out good things. I am glad that you are fine, Donna. How did it all work out for you with your extended visitor. He sure is lucky to live with you. I do hope that it is going well. I believe his name is Kenny.
This Magi stuff is quite an adventure. This man is a 48 so get rid of the 49 data. I like the 48 model much better and it sure looks good with the Magi data. I will leave the Point of contact til I figure this other stuff out.
Just before I go and try to figure out the declinations I wanted to ask about another linkage series. My PLuto is Leo 19 exactly trine his Jup in Sag at 19. Now, that aspect links by conjunction to my Venus at Sag 21. Then, they say they allow 4 degrees if it is making a Super linkage which it does if we link it to my Chiron at Sag 23.(this is on p 134 and 135) Do you agree that this is another Romantic Super Linkage? These ARE a tad tricky to figure out for a novice like me but I am quite enjoying trying. Thanks again Donna and if you have the knowledge of how to figure if there are any SUper linkages in the declinations I would REALLY love to know as they are tough to figure out. I sure appreciate you helping me through this and I am sure others are reading along, too. Love Flame

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Purpleflame
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posted March 18, 2003 07:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, think this got missed as it is slowly sliding to the bottom of the list. He is a 48! Love Flame

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Donna
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posted March 26, 2003 12:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Flame,

Whew, this did get to the bottom, but I was able to finally see it, most of the time, I scan the top, shame on me.

Yes, another Super Romantic Linkage. Oh, and I did use the 48, it clicked so much better.

Actually, the declinations are so much easier, as you only compare the numbers, whether they are in the northern or southern. Only the numbers match, so if for example, if Venus is at 11.2 north and Chiron is at 11.3 south, that is a contra-parallel. Any other planets with those numbers will form linkages to them. Two planets in the north (or the south)with a 20.1 will be parallel. Just remember, the Magi only allow a 1* orb for declinations.

Donna

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Kat
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posted March 27, 2003 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad I dropped in on this topic. I was wondering if there is any significance to my chiron and moon being conjuct in the eigth house (Pisces) trine to my sun and mercury conjuct in the twelfth house (cancer) trine to my neptune in the fourth house (scorpio)?
Also, would it be significant if someone's composite chart were to be conjuct to any of these placements? For instance, I have a good friend who's jupiter is conjuct to my scorpio.
This is interesting stuff, I just ordered the book Keys to Success & Love. Can't wait to read it.

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Purpleflame
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posted April 03, 2003 03:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kat, I think that you'll really enjoy the book and it has a nice Chiron ephemeris and the best times coming up for Chiron.As to your questions, I am learning right along with you. The personal aspect of having Chiron conjunct your Moon is an interesting one, according to the Magi. They say this aspect signifies a strong desire for marriage and children, someone who is highly intuitive and resourceful. It is a Female Romance Aspect, and if the native is a woman, all she thinks about is her Prince Charming or meeting one. She feels completely unfulfilled without one in her life.I have no idea what it means in the 8th.Hope this info helps to understand that 'feeling'.Love Flame

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Purpleflame
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posted April 03, 2003 04:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again, Donna. I do like the sound of these Romantic Super Linkages. I am still quandering the declinations. Is it correct if I have Chiron at 18(little circle) 3' 5"S that I look at it as 18.3 and if his Venus is 18(little circle) 23" 52"S. I read that as 18.2 and so we are within the 1.2 orb that they allow. And, as they are both S then they are parallel .. if they were opposite, but within the 1.2 orb, they would be contra-parallel. Have I got this right? Thanks. If that is correct then his Pluto at 23 47' 35"N would be read 23.4N and my Venus is 23 26'42"S so I would read it as 23.2S making this another linkage, a contraparallel.. Am I doing this correctly? I got the data off an Astro.com chart of declinations in the extended chart section and they do not simplify the data so just wanted to make sure I am correct and to help others understand this. I can see why you got into this, Donna. Love Flame

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Kat
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posted April 03, 2003 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Flame!
I recently read something about moon and chiron conjunct in the 8th house. Supposedly, I spend a lifetime plotting how I can control and manipulate people so I can get their money. HA HA, I wish I had a video camera to get my facial expressions while I was reading that. Anyone who knows me knows this is not where I'm coming from. I must say I like your moon/chiron conjuct meaning much better.

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Purpleflame
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posted April 03, 2003 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kat, You're very welcome. They are not my words though, as I copied them right from the book. Just thought I would add I have a Moon/Chiron conjunction with this man that I am interested in. The Magi say this is a "very strong linkage and creates the intuitive feeling of having known another person in a previous life-often a "love at first sight"-especially for the Chiron person. Interesting, I am actually the Moon person but this info 'jumped out at me when I first read it'. The book is full of interesting data like this. Love Flame Glad you enjoyed your info.

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Purpleflame
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posted April 05, 2003 04:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the Top for Donna. Hi, about 3 or 4 back, I asked a bit about clarifying declination degrees. I just wanted to know if I am working these out correctly. Donna, you're invaluable with your info. Thanks so much for being here. Love Flame

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