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poops
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posted January 23, 2003 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all ,

I'm curious to know how Jupiter has manifested "luck" into peoples lives.

I have a Saggi sun, sag rising and Jupiter in Libra in the 11th.

I do consider myself to have tonnes of friends, but I really need space in friendships and clingy, demanding friendships only encourage me to run a mile.
I do consider my friends to be a real blessing, but my scorp moon also needs lots of time alone.

I used to also enter alot of competitions in magazines when my kids were little, and even though I never won things of enormous monetary value, I still won quite alot of little things, including a holiday, a T.V, and toys for our kids,etc.

But, you know, we hear so much about how 'lucky' Jupiter is, and quite frankly, I have never recieved a huge lucky break regarding money, or career or anything of that nature, not that I mind, but, hey, it would be nice, let's face it!

In alot of ways, I think the biggest blessing that I have recieved from Jupiter, is my optimism, my sense of humour, and my ability to inspire others

What do you all think???

Any major good luck stories floating around, I'd love to hear all of your veiws and lucky breaks regarding Jolly Jupiter

Bring 'em on!!!

poops

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theFajita
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posted January 24, 2003 12:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poops I think some of your luck IS in your great personality

I know alot of Sags the way you describe


well you never know what else you'll WIN in life

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poops
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posted January 24, 2003 01:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your so sweet
Thank You

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morgana
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posted January 26, 2003 06:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, poops!

I have Jupiter in the 4th in Scorpio, conjunct my Moon.

I think maybe it has manifested in the way that I had luck in getting a pretty large flat (for my age and position this is really lucky, believe me, as most of the people of my age either still live at their parents' or in small rented flats). And as I have quite large demands (Jupiter again) in this area, I know that someday I'll have a house. I don't know how or when since I don't make enough money and I don't even have a regular job, but I know it. How's that for Jupiter-like megalomania?

Jupiter in the 4th means, I think, "a large home". But it also means good relationship with the parents, which is not true in my case, but I have Jupiter in opposition with Saturn in the 10th (10th house meaning the mother).

But I think my luck is more connected to my Sun and Venus in the 11th, since the 11th house is "the house of wishes fulfilled". I don't know, I have to hear from others - how their Jupiter works in their charts.

morgana

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proxieme
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posted January 26, 2003 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey -

I have Jupiter in my Tenth and Mars in the 10th Conj that (one in Virgo, one in Leo, but 3°28).
Hm. I read somewhere that people w/ Jupiter in the 10th get career-related offers thrown at them, and I have to say that that's true.
(The following is not a complaint, only an observation.)
I'm a Pisces Sun, and - I don't know how normal this is for Fish - but a large part of me doesn't really care a whit about the prestige, etc. associated w/ a job; right now I'm going to school and working part time at a video store - because, you know, it's fun. But while working at that fun, bs-ing w/ the customers, watching movies job, I've had people throw their business cards at me, saying that they'd love to have me as an intern, or that I should "definitely contact them as graduation approaches". Others give me literature about their job, or offer to become sources for whatever paper or article I'm writing. And, again, I'M NOT COMPLAINING (I've capitalized that for the benefit of the little demons that circle over head and guarantee that that which I say bites me in the butt...so, NOT COMPLAINING, NOT COMPLAINING, NOT COMPLAINING), it's just odd.

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Oxychick
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posted January 26, 2003 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if Jupiter was retro when you were born? I have retro Jupiter at 1 degree Leo in the 3rd House, 5 degrees from my Moon.

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proxieme
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posted January 26, 2003 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah - good question Oxy!!!

(My saying that has nothing to do w/ the fact that these are my placements:
Mars in Leo 29°36'49 10 retrograde, Jupiter Virgo 03°05'16 10 retrograde ... uh course, tha's nuttin' - I gots 4 other planets dancing backwards in my natal chart. )

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morgana
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posted January 26, 2003 02:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is retrograde too. I'll look it up, maybe I'll come up with sth and let you know.

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proxieme
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posted January 26, 2003 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From http://members.aol.com/terriastro/apr98.htm :
(...) I can say for sure
is that the energy of that planet is more pronounced than if it were
direct. If the planet is stationary at the time of birth, or at
significantly reduced speed, it is even more pronounced. That is,
retrograde and stationary natal planets function at the extreme ranges of
their expression. Retrograde and stationary planets have heightened energy
and the state of retrogradation can alter or divert the energy of a planet
from its normal expressions. Why would this be so? When a planet is
retrograde it is actually closer to the earth. This is why the planet's
energy is more pronounced. This means its energy is more personal to the
person who has it retrograde in the natal chart. It can mean that it is
difficult for the person to experience that planet's energies as separate
from the self. In this sense, it can be difficult to 'control' a
retrograde planet or experience its energies objectively. It is easier
both to objectify and to detach oneself from the energies of planets in
direct motion.
When a planet is stationary or retrograde at birth, the expression of that
planet's energies are usually less obvious, less open, and much more
inwardly focused. (...) A person with four or more retrograde planets tends to be someone who marches to their own drum beat.


From http://www.north-node.com/asabove/archive/20021001.html :
When a planet in your chart is retrograde, you experience the energy of the planet in a more subjective, internal way. Thus your experience and expression of the planet's energy is very unique to you. There is also a link to the past, or a concern with the past. Some karmic astrologers believe that retrograde planets indicate a link to a past life.
...With Venus retrograde in your natal chart, your concept of beauty is different, comes from a different place, than those around you. With Mercury retrograde, your thinking is different. With Jupiter, planet of philosophy, your ethics, morality and religion may differ from your family's.
...You chart shows your life's lessons: those you have already learned and integrated, and those you're still working on. It could be that you brought over the past life energy shown by the retrograde, to assist you in your soul growth in this lifetime.

From http://www.astrologyetal.com/retrogrades.htm :
Jupiter retrograde people are constantly soul tripping inward, expanding the awareness of the philosophies of the universe -- the inner universe.

And from http://www.galacticcenter.org/retrograde%20planets.htm :
A retrograde planet seems to be intensified, a bit eccentric and out of control. It will cause problems because it does not function like forward moving planets. It is like a dyslectic planet, not the norm, misunderstood with a bit of genius, if only its energy can be harnessed.

This info's prolly a bit general and elementary, but eh. It can be pinched to fit.

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Oxychick
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posted January 26, 2003 06:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, Proxieme, thanks!

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Aphrodite
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posted January 27, 2003 12:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Poops,

I have Jupiter exalted in Cancer in the 2nd house, and it makes all sorts of interesting aspects.

I have gotten lucky job offers, windfalls, and do have the energy to "expand" in the financial realm.

Cheers,

Aphrodite

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Alena
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posted January 27, 2003 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proxieme, interesting reading on the retrogrades (i've got 5). If I remember correctly, you have 6, right?.......I read that once the planets goes direct by progression it's expressed outwardly. Well, I've got 3 down and 2 to go.

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morgana
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posted January 27, 2003 01:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proxieme, thanks! I didn't find anything useful in my books, but this info that you found is really helpful! It makes sense that if something stays in one place for a longer time, it has a greater effect.

Aphrodite,
I know, I'm waiting for Jupiter's transit in my 2nd house for years...

Hi, Alena!
So you now sth about how progression works? I posted a topic about that, could you maybe take a peek? (Sorry for butting in like this...)

morgana

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poops
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posted January 27, 2003 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again everyone

Just for the record, my Jupiter is in Libra in the 11th, squaring my Saggi sun & Merc in Cappie both in the 1st, trining Venus in Aqua in the 3rd, while conjunct Uranus in Libra in the 11th and Pluto in Virgo in the 10th. It also opposes Chiron in Pisces in the 4th, whatever that all means!

I've read great things about ones Jupiter trineing Venus, so presumably, this is an asset that I'm happy to have.

Naturally my super dooper bloody Jupiter hips are the liability, that I'd be happy to trade it.......any takers???

Thanks for all your input everyone.


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Cat
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posted January 27, 2003 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have retro Jupiter in my 8th.....

Retro Jupiter can indicate legal problems....
YES my hand is up there...as I think you all know I have a major legal situation with my ex that's been going on since 1999
Interestingly enough...my ex also has retro Jupiter.....he is very litigatious (always has some legal wrangle going on with someone)....
For me...this is my first and I so hope last legal situation.

The 8th = other people's money, help, support etc
I can say that my 8th house Jupiter is really coming through for me. My friends have been totally amazing. I am really blessed. One friend (of 16 years) said to me "Sue, at least now you really know who your true friends are" and a truer statement has never been said! I have nothing to offer anyone except me and my friendship.
Sue

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theFajita
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posted January 27, 2003 09:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Oxy & everyone with Jupiter in retro that's really neat!

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Oxychick
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posted January 27, 2003 09:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean, retro Jupiter = legal troubes?

If you didn't already see my Paranoia thread, I have a habit of worrying so...

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N_wEvil
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posted January 27, 2003 09:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im not sure...Jupiter is in Scorpio/6th house for me and it seems to manifest no luck whatsoever!

Course it doesnt help it squares my mercury and midheaven/sun

As far as my luck goes...well, i've gone down the pan emotionally quite a few times but meterialistically i've never really hit rock bottom, which i suppose is good, although i've never been affluent either. Luck for me is a last-second thing that clinches something and turns it around - not a "peak on an up-cycle".

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poops
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posted January 28, 2003 02:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jesus Sue, I'll be eternally grateful that my Jupiter's in the 11th then, sounds far nicer than the 8th:frown:

God god, a three year court case deserves anyones sympathy!

Keep smiling

Hi N-wEvil

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morgana
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posted January 28, 2003 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edited out*

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stella polaris
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posted January 28, 2003 02:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had Jupiter transitting my first house this autumn and put on EIGHT kilos!!! Hopefully I'll get that amount in gold when it gets to my second house...
I have Jupiter-Venus trine, the so-called golden horseshoe, but I've never won anything my entire life. But I'm charming, good-looking and optimistic, that's always something...-) My luckiest moment is leaving a cinema shortly before a bomb goes off and kills 65 people. And cancelling last minute a trip to a place that the day I should arrive was severly hit by an earthquake.

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morgana
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posted January 28, 2003 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What???

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Jaqueline
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posted January 28, 2003 04:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Jupiter retrograde and past lives

It takes 12 years for Jupiter to travel around the Sun; then it pauses at its stationary position for five to eight days. Approximately once a year, for around four months or so, this planet is in retrograde.


Jupiter, like Saturn, is a social planet. Its actions affect people in a very holistic manner. The retrograde of Jupiter causes us to reevaluate our ethics as a society. Philosophies are rewritten, religious or spiritual beliefs are questioned and the very fibers of our being are scrutinized. Lessons that have become commonplace and routine are seen in a new light. The results of these changes can be either fruitful or inauspicious, depending on the individual, the culture and the situation. Working from the premise that the universe flows within us and that individuals are connected by a greater thread, we focus more on the similarities and trends that span the globe than on the individual. Jupiter in retrograde isn't a great time for travel, as plans are likely to cave in on themselves.


If Jupiter's retrograde is in your chart, you are likely to be the type of person who is always searching for ethics and values. You constantly seek truth and deeper meaning in life but rarely reach a stage of understanding. Ritual becomes a chore and you feel uneasy in your skin as you follow in blind faith. Oftentimes you jump onto the current intellectual bandwagon only to be disappointed in the end. You suffer from feeling the cold lack of spiritual fulfillment or you feel tugged at by the constant demands of your spirituality or philosophy. You strive to find the right spiritual balance.


I have Jupiter retro in my 2nd house...in Pisces ...yet , I can make mine almost all Sue's words...

quote:
I have a major legal situation with my ex that's been going on since 2000
...he is very litigatious (always has some legal wrangle going on with someone)....
For me...this is my first and I so hope last legal situation.

...he doesn't have his Jupiter retro in his 8th house...yet, he's a #$**&@

Jakie


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Jaqueline
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posted January 28, 2003 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...Yet, I consider myself a very lucky person...specially now, that Jupiter it's in my 7th house...if you know what I mean

Love
Jakie

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Cat
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posted January 28, 2003 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jakie
Noooo it's me with Jupiter in the 8th.....I'll check where my ex's retro Juipter is cos he's always got some legal battle going on....
Back in a bit re that.....

I'll explain my Jupiter in a bit - got to dash to the shop before it closes as it's gone 9pm here now.
Sue

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