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Alena
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posted February 09, 2003 12:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone out there have a singleton in water? If so, how do you think this affects you?

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Cat
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posted February 09, 2003 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Alena
I do......
Uranus in Cancer 11th house.

I've never really given too much thought as to how it affects me re the element. I'll have to think about that and get back to you.
Uranus in my 11th.....I meet a lot of people from all walks of life. I have many different "types" of friends ie: they wouldn't all "get on" with each other as too different. I guess you could say that the Uranian influence attracts "unusual" people.

I treat my friends like family - that's Cancer ruling my 11th.
Have to think about the water bit. It's my only planet in water, so I have a lack of water in my chart which makes it difficult for me to express my emotions. They kind of swirl around inside not knowing which way to come out..
Sue

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morgana
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posted February 09, 2003 05:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is a singleton?

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Cat
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posted February 09, 2003 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Morgana
Here's a link that should explain singletons. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000582.html

Sue

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morgana
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posted February 09, 2003 05:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks Sue!

I looked at my chart and I only have an Earth singleton, Pluto. And maybe Mars, but I'm not sure...

Hi, Alena!

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Alena
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posted February 09, 2003 12:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sue. I have a Neptune singleton twice over, the only water planet and the only planet in a water house. I seem to fluctuate between being emotional and unemotional, it's one or the other...there's no gray area. I have trouble expressing my feelings as well. I was curious to see how it affects other people.

Hi Morgana. I see Sue put up a link to explain singletons. It's a planet that is the only one in an element, modality or hemisphere. If you'd like to read more about your singletons here's a link http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/articles.htm

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Alena
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posted February 09, 2003 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS-if you need me to look at your chart to confirm which ones they are let me know

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Oxychick
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posted February 09, 2003 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, me too! Uranus is the only planet in a Water sign for me-in Scorpio in my 6th House.

I know I also have problems expressing emotions, like you, Cat!

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Cat
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posted February 09, 2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alena
Yes I know what you mean...kind of all or nothing.

Oxychick
Yes....and it can be a tough call sometimes when sometimes stuff just goes around and around inside not knowing how to come out
Sue

PS: Overall though I don't have a problem with Uranus being a focal point in my chart....just hope other people don't.....don't think they do as I'm very fortunate to have so many good friends.....hmmm is that the Uranian (Aquarian) talking

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morgana
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posted February 10, 2003 06:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Alena! That's so kind of you, thanks!!

I did go to this web-site and read the Pluto section, and I must say it does ring a bell...
I think Pluto is my only singleton, but I'm not sure about the hemisphere part.

Thank you so much again and sorry for not being able to share my experience about water singletons...
I just remembered: what exactly is the difference if some planet is a singleton of one sort or another? For example, if I have Mars as a water singleton, what's the role of the element? And if I have Mars as a sinleton in a Fixed house, what does this mean - is the interpretation a combination of Mars as singleton and Mars in a water element?
I thought of this because you, Alena, said that your Neptune is a water singleton, and I just wondered what the difference is if it would be a Fire singleton, for example (Neptune itself being a "watery" planet ).

Hi, Sue, hi, Oxy!

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Oxychick
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posted February 10, 2003 06:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cat, Morgana, Alena!

Yes Cat, people complain that I'm too cold. Just learning to use the smiley and feel at ease with it was very tough for me.

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Alena
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posted February 10, 2003 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Morgana. I think lack of an element would mean not understanding that element too well or expressing that element. But people who lack elements can also overcompensate for it. You have a lack of fire (your Neptune is a singleton in fire) which could suggest lack of confidence,assertiveness or initiative. I don't know if that's true in your case, but if it is, then I think you probably cover this up pretty well with your Leo Ascendant. You could be like me and experience it by either being overassertive/overenthusiastic etc and at other times not enough. You tell me. Your Neptune is in the 4th so I think this would manifest around the home life. Your Pluto is a singleton in earth....lack of earth suggests a disinterest in practical or day to day matters or responsibilities. I have to go for now but I will write more later......

Oxy, I've also been accused of being cold.

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weird purple sparkles
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posted February 10, 2003 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oxychick, i have the same elemental singleton as you: uranus in scorpio..

and i also seem to be cardinally challenged too. only cardinal planet is pluto in libra.

BUT, i have a question:

my DC (cancer) and MC (scorpio) are water,
and my AC (cap) is cardinal.. do these count?

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Alena
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posted February 10, 2003 10:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angles and Nodes do not count .......only planets.

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morgana
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posted February 11, 2003 05:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alena!

So you connect the meaning of the planet with the lack of the element or position (fixed, cardinal, mutable) in which it is in.

I thought that Ascendant counted, that's why I didn't include Neptune. In the other thread (the one that Cat gave the link to) someone said that of the angles only Ascendant counts, so...
I honestly don't know if I feel like I have a lack of fire because I'm quite physical and dynamic, I don't like to be in one place for too long, I'm cheerful in appearance except if my feelings are hurt or if I have a problem, I'm relatively hot tempered (I yell mostly at home, yes ), I laugh a lot, I'm domineering when I feel comfortable, I like telling people what to do (again, when I feel comfortable and especially at home)... All that. I honestly don't know, moody (Cancer) as I am.
As for the lack of earth, it's true!! I'm practical only when I absolutely have to be, and I don't feel comfortable when I'm being practical and want to escape from these kind of resposnibilities, and, yes, I always seem to be interested in anything else but the present and down to earth matters.

So Mars is not a singleton in my chart? It stands quite alone and I'm confused about the hemispheres...

OK, enough about me. Thanks again, Alena!
This is interesting stuff.

Hi Oxy, Cat, VPS!

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Oxychick
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posted February 11, 2003 06:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey WPS (sorry, I just gotta abbreviate),

I think you and I are only a few days apart, so happy belated birthday!

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Twin Lady
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posted February 11, 2003 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone

I have 2 singletons, Venus in Taurus and Pluto in Leo (and yes, they're squared, with Saturn in Scorpio, forming a T-square to boot.

I related to Morgana's comment about only being practical when I absolutely have to be, and I confess this attitude has caused plenty of financial problems. Having Pisces rising, and being mostly water and air, I have a hard time staying grounded. It's like...boring to me, lol. Right now, I'm struggling with this because my circumstances are demanding that I be "down to earth" AND have more initiative, which brings me to the fire singleton, Pluto in Leo.

I don't have a lot of self-confidence, nor am I particularly assertive. I always figured this had to do with having Mars in Cancer and the 4th; my energies are most active at home -- I AM confident and assertive there.

At present I am in a state of transisiton where my work is concerned. I've had lots of "jobs" but I need to be doing something that holds my interest. Another factor is that Pluto in Leo occurs in my 6th house. Given that, along with having Mars in the 4th (Mercury too, though it's in Gemini)...I feel that working from my home is the way for me to go. I also have the Moon in Scorpio, and definitely work best on my own, without someone monitoring me constantly.

Since this is a relatively new concept for me, and I just looked into this thread (thanks Morgana! :heart , I'd welcome any input. Thanks in advance.

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Cat
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posted February 11, 2003 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Twin Lady
Hmm you got me thinking.....
You mentioned that your singletons were both part of T-Squares.
I have Uranus as a singleton but it is part of a T-Square in my chart.

Hi Everyone
How many other people who have a singleton/s in their chart also have it as part of a T-Square?
Sue

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weird purple sparkles
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posted February 11, 2003 03:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
um.. what's a t square?

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Cat
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posted February 11, 2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi WPS
Here's some info

T-Square
The T-Square consists of three planets in the same modality, and includes two squares and one opposition. A T-Square is simply a Grand Cross with a missing planet. A T-Square functions quite differently than a Grand Cross, however. Instead of forming a potentially stable structure, a T-Square is far less stable; all of the pressure is placed on the planet that receives the two squares, the apex planet. T-Squares then have a built-in focus that the Grand Cross lacks, and they can often become extremely productive and a key motivating force for an individual.

The apex planet of a T-Square is the key. This is the planet that is both the driving force, and also the planet that is under the most pressure. Squares, remember, are action aspects; the apex planet, receiving two simultaneous squares, is under a great deal of pressure to act. In order for this planet to act in a focused and productive manner, however, it still needs an anchor. The "empty leg" of the T-Square is where this anchor is found. Some astrologers consider this point (the point opposite the apex planet) to be the 'release point' of the T-Square. I don't consider this to be an accurate description. A T-Square is about moving forward, taking action with the apex planet, not about diffusing or redirecting that action. What an awareness of the opposing point offers is an anchor of sorts, and a reference point to insure that the path and direction of the action taken is true. When a planet transits this point, creating a temporary Grand Cross, it often indicates an opportunity to unleash the power and energy of the T-Square in a very focused and directed manner because the transiting planet provides the awareness of balance for the Apex planet, and at the same time triggers the two squares.

When considering a T-Square, pay close attention to the element of the sign that the Apex planet occupies. This will help describe the kind of action that the T-Square will tend to generate (Fire = physical, tangible, identity-oriented; Earth = material, practical; Air = mental, social; Water = emotional, spiritual). The House positions of the planets, and of the Apex planet in particular are also extremely important. This will show where the stress will tend to come from (the house axis that contains the opposing planets) and where it will tend to manifest and need to be addressed (the house of the Apex planet).

A T-Square forms a right triangle, and in sacred geometry, right triangles operate on the level of what the Greeks called "nous" which is the realm of the spirit and of the higher self and higher guidance. Because it is also an isosceles triangle, T-Squares also operate on the mental/emotional level (what the Greeks called the "soul" level) and therefore can be quite challenging and stressful configurations. The key to working with a T-Square is to learn how to tap into the higher levels of guidance and to discover different and more supportive ways of releasing the stress and pressure of the squares through taking action with the apex planet.

CARDINAL. As with the Cardinal Cross, the Cardinal T-Square is concerned with the question of identity. The sign of the Apex Planet will indicate where the point of focus and integration will be (Aries = individual identity; Cancer = emotional identity; Libra = social identity; Capricorn = accomplishments and tangible, material expressions of identity). And also as with the Cardinal Cross, impulsiveness is a very prominent concern with a Cardinal T-Square. Planets in Cardinal signs need to take immediate action. They do not like to be told to wait, and they will do their own thing rather than wait to be lead by someone else. The Cardinal T-Square is by far the most active of the T-Squares, but it is not necessarily the most productive. The challenge with this pattern is to get the three planets to work together rather than each going off and doing their own thing (which inevitably conflicts with what the other two planets want to be doing). An awareness of the empty leg and house can provide some much needed balance and guidance for a Cardinal T-Square. Once all of the planets are pointed in the right direction, as it were, taking action and moving forward is automatic. The hardest part is learning to control the impulsiveness of the Cardinal planets long enough to get them to work together.

FIXED. The Apex planet in a Fixed T-Square, being under the greatest pressure, will also tend to be the planet and area of life in which the individual is the least flexible and has the most resistance to change. Opposing planets in Fixed signs tend to find a certain amount of stability if only because neither planet is willing to budge, but as they butt heads, they tend to discover some common ground and will usually come to some sort of a cease-fire agreement. With a Fixed T-Square, however, this cease-fire between the Opposing planets may seem only to exist because each planet has decided to confront the apex planet as a common enemy. Fixed signs, remember, are all concerned with self-worth, with maintaining and sustaining who we are. Ultimately, the Apex planet of a Fixed T-Square will need to take action, and to change ­ something that Fixed signs are perfectly happy to do so long as they feel that the action or the change was their idea and not something that is prompted by any outside influence. The lesson of the Fixed T-Square is one of flexibility, particularly with respect to the planet, sign and house that makes up the Apex of the T-Square.

MUTABLE. With a Mutable T-Square, as with a Mutable Grand Cross, the challenge is focus and coherence. All three planets are concerned with healing and completion, and all three planets will tend to adapt and avoid direct confrontation. The Apex planet in a Mutable T-Square is the one that will tend to scatter the most, because this is the planet that is under the most pressure. Oppositions are more passive aspects, and planets in Opposition in mutable signs, because of their natural tendency to adapt, are the most likely to find the point of balance and harmony and therefore be the most comfortable with the Opposition aspect. Working with the opposing point, and maintaining an awareness of the energy and lessons of the opposing sign is particularly important with a Mutable T-Square because this can provide a sense of focus and direction for the Apex planet.

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morgana
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posted February 12, 2003 06:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, no T square...

Hi, Twinlady, hi, Cat!

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posted February 14, 2003 12:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks alena! and happy birthday(ish) to you too, oxychick! when's your birthday?

wow, cat, thanks so much for the info. i just love learning this stuff. every time i discover something new in astrology it's like a gift i'm opening! it really is that thrilling for me! (i know i'm weird..)

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Harpyr
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posted May 16, 2003 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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