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jjjax
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posted March 02, 2003 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a scorpio assendant, and i have no idea if that would affect me anything like you moon and sun scorps... but i have been having real problems with friendships at present. Not with my friends, but with their friends or their partners, or ex partners being increbibly jelous and cold towards me. Im finding Leos really difficult to be around, and i am somewhat being drawn to my picean friends. I have a bit of a bad run of luck... university admin problems, which almost caused a delay in my graduation, cant get a job, damage to my car, and i have been fairly ill this last week... and all these cold jelous vibes!!! I think there is something in the air... my Libra scales arent doing a very good balancing act at the moment... perhaps it is my Scorp assendant? Is anyone else having real troubles with Leos?

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poops
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posted March 03, 2003 04:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Sister, our intuition is good, so definately keep 'listening'

No jjjax, I have a Leo son and haven't had any major problems there, thankfully

Good luck everyone

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morgana
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posted March 03, 2003 06:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey poops, that's the exact same number of smilies that I originally sent you (6), but then I exceeded my limit and had to post just one!
I saw you started a thread about this and I'm really interested in what Donna has to say about it. Hang in there, poops!!!

Astryl, my mother first had a years long custody battle for my sister and me when we were small, and then some years ago I had to fight my father again for the alimony and it was very ugly, I can tell you that. All custody battles are. But I said to myself that I would not give up no matter what, and then after a few years and a few painful court hearings my mother found a letter from my father which helped me and he finally lost (he sued me in the meanwhile). But I would fight until the end all the same. So my message is still this one: never give up, the universe bows to the one who believes more firmly.

Sister (who is chasing the Moon ), I think you you should definitely listen to your intuition, but maybe if it compells you to do something extreme which you're not sure about (that's intuition too), it would be better if you wait a while and then see if your intuition was absolutely right the first time. Well, what I'm trying to say that our intuition is always right, but the trouble is that sometimes we don't know how to interpret it or we interpret it the wrong way. I'm speaking for myself now,
don't get me wrong But when I KNOW something, I know something, and then there's no doubt about it that I'm right. Well, I'm babbling now, you know best anyway.

jjjax, I know exactly what you're going through. Just stick it out, it passes. In your case it sounds as if you're too sensitive and you let the negative feelings of others get to you in a way that it interferes in your life, and you're obviously also experiencing a bad period in your life. But don't worry, remember the excellent periods in your life. It's the same, these things come and go, what matters is how we handle them. Be tough, nothing can hurt you if you don't want it to. Look who's talking, right... But anyway, it helps to know this. We live and we learn. OK, I'll shut up now, I'm starting to get on my nerves...

love and light

morgana

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Harpyr
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posted March 03, 2003 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leos regularly find ways to annoy me.
It's their sometimes utterly contemtuous way of asserting their opinion as if were obviously 'right' way to see things...
It's something I've come across many times, most often with male Leos.
My first b-friend was this way, a solar Leo with a moon in Scorpio, like mine, and the aforementioned trait was one of the most exasperatingly frequent aspects of his personality. Drove me bonkers.
Ironic because this caused me not care much for the sign of Leo for awhile, before I knew much about astrology.

Imagine my shocked surprise when I found out Leo was not only my rising sign but that I also had Jupiter prominent in my first house in Leo, in mutual reception with my Sun; supposedly this should bestow a profoundly leonine coloring to my identity, not to mention having 7 planets in the house of Leo (5th).

So that was my first lession in the 'shadow self', as Carl Jung described it.

Hmm. I'm sort of rambling now and wondering what my point was..
Right now, Jupiter is retrograding at about 10 degrees, in opposition to Neptune at 12 degrees, although I'm not sure exactly what that might mean in terms of one's relationship with Leos, jjjax.

My experiences lately, with Leos hasn't been more pronounced than usual though.
My annoyance has been with a Libra lately.
Two weeks ago I had this synchronous meeting with a very charming Libran, we had an impromptou sort Valentine's Day first date that went really well..my first date in a very Long time..he seemed very genuinely interested in me and said he'd call me. He did, a few days later, wanting to get together and I just happened to be falling ill with a cold, so I told him that I'd like to get together later in the week and he said he'd call the next day with when he knew his schedule for the week.
Well, he didn't call and didn't call a week and half later after I'd left a message and then finally tonight I called him back again, utterly confused, not sure if he was brushing me off and I got ahold of him. He said he was busy with some last minute work and that he'd call me tomorrow.

I'm frustrated because my highly sensitive Scorpionic intuition told me that he is quite interested in me not only physically but also mentally as we have much in common, yet I feel like I'm getting blown off.
So I'm confused and annoyed and discouraged towards this whole dating thing and feeling like I should just be a romantic hermit and to heck with these confoundingly indecisive Libra men that I keep stumbling upon..

Right now my emotions swing from a desire to step out and above the realm of the relationship game into a more focused, selfless devotion to my son and beyond that, a commitment to developing ME into my hightest potential and yet at the same time, a part of me yearns for the typical domestic bliss of finding a loving partner in this crazy game of life. It's hard being a single mother..
I feel quite conflicted on the whole issue.

That notorious Scopionic libido is also a factor..
I'm trying to figure out how to harness it for a higher, more spiritual purpose but it's challenging..

Okay, now I'm definetly rambling without a foreseeable point..I just got back from a pleasant night off from mommy duty, spent at my favorite poolhall..feeling alittle tippsy..
G'night everyone!


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Cat
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posted March 03, 2003 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone
Just a quick post that may throw some light on the troubles that Scorps have been feeling. Transiting Uranus in Aquarius will have been squaring any planets you have in Scorpio.
Uranus can really "mix things up".
Anyway you'll all be glad to hear that that on 10th March it moves into Pisces - so relief is on it's way

Sue

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morgana
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posted March 03, 2003 10:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sue!

But Uranus has been in Aqua for a few years (I don't know how many, but at least one) and we've been all (!) feeling like this for these couple of weeks... Why now when it's transiting into Pisces? I don't think that's the answer for this particular problem, but thanks anyway.

Hi Harpyr, hope you had a great time!

, morgana

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Cat
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posted March 03, 2003 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Morgana
Yes I know it's been in Aqua for years (it stays in a sign for approx 7 years at a time). It would depend at what degree people's Scorp planets are at. For example Poops has a Scorpio Moon and transiting Uranus is currently squaring it. It's not really possible to generalise everyone's charts as they would all need to be looked at individually to find out exact info but I thought I'd just mention the transiting Uranus square possibilites.
Sue

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morgana
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posted March 03, 2003 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Cat, you're right and I usually know all this on my good days.

That would explain the troubles Poops is having - she (I keep wanting to say he!) said that she has suddenly found herself questioning her life she has build with her husband... Poops, your Moon is in the 27th degree of Scorpio, right? That would really explain it. Uranus. Funny I didn't think of that. Maybe I was subconsciously wishing for something inexplicable...

And Cat, as I was writing this, I remembered that I also have Jupiter in the 27th degree of Scorpio (my Moon is in the 21th degree Scorpio), so would that be somewhat similar in effect? But it's strange, I haven't felt this until some couple of weeks ago...

Ah well...

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Cat
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posted March 03, 2003 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Morgana
Just after I'd posted..I thought of something so went to edit my post but it wasn't there
Anyway logged off and back on again and now it's there together with your new post

Hmmm you know Uranus is currently at 29 degrees - so that may well be something re intensity, as the 29th degree is always considered to be a "critical" degree being the last degree of the sign.
Sue

PS: Not sure that I'm going to like it moving into Pisces....that's my 7th house ruler and I honestly wouldn't have thought that my love life could get anymore demented

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morgana
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posted March 03, 2003 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know what you mean... It's been in my 7th now for a long time, in conjunction with my natal Mars (but my relationship survived without casualties, I'm glad to say), and it's moving into my 8th! Mars will join it in a while (I heard it will stay in Pisces for a whole 6 months!), so I guess I must watch out for accidents...

I'm glad you reminded me of the 29th degree, I just learned about it the other day. It's somehow special, isn't it? Symbolically it means destruction, disintegration of some sort, at least that's what I was told. It's strange how this is all connected to the Iraq thing. But I didn't want to start any political debate by this!

, morgana

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Lost Leo
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posted March 03, 2003 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ya, those darn male Leos... I don't get along with them either.

Well actually, not that I don't "get along" with them, being a Leo I know it's easy to manipulate them using compliments, so in general I keep everything positive in our relations.

But if I think they are over-stepping their boundaries, acting selfishly and TAKING ADVANTAGE of one of our friends (THAT p*sses me off) I'm the first to put them back in check!
And actually now that I think about it, within my group of friends, I'm the only one who does. And man they DO NOT like that!

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Cat
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posted March 03, 2003 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Morgana
Glad to hear your relationship survived the 7th house transit. You'll have to let me know how you like having it move into your 8th
Yes Mars will stay in Pisces for quite a while. It'll be in my 7th - that house is now under serious transit attack for me.

Ok just checked and Mars enters Pisces on 18th June, it then goes retro @ 10 degree Pisces on the 29th July. While in retro motion it "backs up" to 0 degree Pisces and then goes direct on 27th Sept. It finally moves into Aries on 17th Dec.

It will be very interesting to see how this Mars transit affects everyone as Mars is going to move closer to the earth than it's been for a very very long time. Plus it goes retro and only does that every 2 years.
I'm curious to see how it will affect me as my 7th house cusp is 9 degree Pisces so it will just get into my 7th and then back up into my 6th, then go through my 7th again.
I'm glad that transiting Uranus won't actually reach 9 degree Pices this year as those 2 transits together would be complete madness
Sue

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Twin Lady
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posted March 03, 2003 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat

I was going to comment on the general subject of Scorpio being affected by transits...but after reading your last post I got a little worried.

My Ascendant is 17 degrees Pisces. Do you have any thoughts on what Uranus and Mars transiting this sign could indicate for me? I've been dealing with Saturn going over my Sun and Mercury, with Pluto opposing it all for the past few years and have really been through the ringer emotionally, with many "endings" and permanent changes. What should I watch out for next?? I'm looking forward to Saturn leaving my sign even though it will touch my natal Mars in Cancer early (4 degrees)and someone mentioned I may feel like the brakes are put on some things I'd like to accomplish. I "think" I'm prepared for this as it seems that my life lesson this time around is patience, lol. I was just wondering what Mars and Uranus going over my Ascendant/1st house may show me. Any input is welcome. Thanks!

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted March 03, 2003 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEOS
It is so funny that we are now talking about Leos! Every major relationship I have had with a man has been with a Leo with the exception of one Cappi (which I might add WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!)
Anyway, I had sort of sworn off Leos myself and when I met my boyfriend, I was so relieved that he was also a Scorp. Come to find out.....his ascd is none other than....LEO !!! Everything thing about a leo screams"Come on Melissa, you know you want to."
Scorpio/Leo in my experience is nothing short of the most exciting/heartbreaking of them all!
Gee, seems as if I get both Scorp an Leo this time ! WOOOOOOHOOOOOO I think Im in for a hell of a ride !

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Love & Light,
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Lost Leo
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posted March 03, 2003 05:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah... and I have a thing for Scorp females

Last 5 out of 6 have been Scorps...

I think it's the forbidden fruit, I MUST conquer the mystery; their convoluded nature makes for such an invigorating challenge. Not to mention the danger of the attraction, we know we're tiptoeing on the brink of furious conflict but maintaining the harmony makes for earth-shattering passion on the nuclear scale

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Cat
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posted March 03, 2003 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Twinlady
You have my sympathy re Saturn. I really know how that feels. He's been on my case for years. Systematically squaring my Mars, Pluto, Mercury, Venus, Asc, Descendant plus gave my Sun a good whacking...and he's currently sitting still opp my Moon
Once Saturn moves out of Gemini all mutable signs will feel relieved. As Pisces is your asc, Saturn will have been hitting on all your angles (Asc,Desc,MC,IC) not nice I know...I'm Virgo asc so he's been hitting all my angles as well.

Saturn and Mars - yes it really does feel like someone put the brakes on. Very frustrating I found that to be.

Uranus moving into Pisces....
Well you've got time re that one. It will not reach your Asc until sometime next year.
Mars will reach 17 degree Pisces on 23rd November. It will be moving pretty quickly so shouldn't be too much of a problem for you. You'll probably feel it's effect mid to 3rd week in November as it approaches your asc but that should be over with by end November.

The Ascendant shows how we start things, but, (since it's always exactly opposite the Descendant), transits to it will also affect your relationships. You'll have to watch out for possible arguments as they are more likely to happen during a stressful aspect (the conjunction in this case is considered to be a stressful aspect but conjunctions are not always considered stressful).
But let's look at the positive side of this aspect. You will have more energy and initiative at this time. A great time for starting new projects.

Hope that helps
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poops
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posted March 03, 2003 05:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again guys!

Morgana & Sue, thanks for those explanations, they really make sense and have helped me to try and realize that I am sane after all.....(maybe! )

Sue,
I read about Uranus squaring my moon and boy, did that make sense!...Phew!
So, because I have Neptune in Scorp also, would that have been "aspected" at the same time?

Also, when Uranus shifts in Pisces, that will mean it's in my 4th house of home and family... Good god, this is not something that I'm looking forward to , as hubby is a Piscean and also with Mars in Pisces adding it's weight this year, it should make for a really fun few years ......hmmm, the suspense!

Oh well, I'll just have to hang on and try to enjoy the ride

Hope everyone else is feeling better

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Cat
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posted March 03, 2003 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Poops
Just answered you on the other string...
Oooo I just now realised that your Moon and Neptune are exactly conjunct in your natal chart (Duh....lol, my brain's not functioning too well as I have the flu which has now moved to my chest.....so nice and bronchial now...ppffftt)...soo yes-sir-ree Uranus will have had a field day with those two at the same time

Your 4th house cusp is 0 degree Pisces....so Uranus will be exactly on that on 10th March.....next week. It will stay in Pisces for the next 7 years. AND your hubby is a Piscean....yes it could be interesting times. As we also have Mars in Pisces for about 6 months this year (due to it's retro motion - a thing that only happens every 2 years). You also probably saw that I mentioned somewhere (can't think where now) that Mars is going to be the closest to the earth that it's been for years and years. So a lot of energy there.

Hey I'm feeling like Scary Spice ...as all this Pisces action going to hit my 7th house
Sue

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jjjax
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posted March 03, 2003 10:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, started quite a convo on leos there! sorry guys. I can usually handle leos (lotsa practice with my leo mother!), i totally love them most of the time! but lately i have just found i am copping firey bouts of female leo jelousy! Its just strange... and my picean guy friends are being just so amazingly understanding and supportive, and they seem to just know what i am feeling.

Morgana: yeah im way to sensitive! your right, We live and we learn, im learning a lot right now!!! hehe.

Cat: you say The Ascendant shows how we start things? I have a Scorprio assendant... so what would that mean? when i read that i was thinking well im glad that Libra is my sun and not my asendant then, cause i would never get things started!

Harpyr: yeah Libras can be fustrating, i fustrate myself all the time! why do i have to think so damn much! Grrr

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Twin Lady
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posted March 03, 2003 10:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat

Thank you so much for the explanations. You're certainly right about Saturn, Pluto and the angles: My one daughter is a Gemini too, with Pisces Moon and Scorp Rising, and my other daughter is Pisces Sun, Taurus Moon and Sag Rising...so you can imagine what an uproar this household has been in!

Regarding the upcoming transits of Mars and Uranus into Pisces...it should prove interesting to say the least.

As for more energy and initiative, and starting new projects -- I'm all for that. It would be nice to have some changes in my life that I have some say in -- which wasn't the case with Pluto.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to clarify for me; having a better understanding removes the fear!

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posted March 03, 2003 10:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In general I would say other than the dispute between the virgo sun.. scorpio moon friend of mine..... I've been fine really!

I also have loads of scorpio influence in my chart.... so I don't know?? However, must say that there is one thing that I'm generally excellent on that I have been a little free with lately..... money.

There I said it!!.... lol

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posted March 04, 2003 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Twin Lady
Glad that helped you out
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posted March 04, 2003 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi jjjax
I'm running around a lot today but here's a bit of info for you
Sue

Scorpio Rising~Taurus on the Descendent
© 2000 Linda Rankin
Scorpio on the 1st House cusp.
Your outer persona is generally quiet and reflective when Scorpio sits on the first house. You are a watcher, an investigator and you see beneath the surface of the everyday events of your life. Scorpio rising is an interplay of the mysterious and the penetrating and it provides a mask that is seldom overt or observable but becomes a need to penetrate, understand and transcend. You have an unexpectedly strong will power and are unlikely to ever lose sight of your visions or your target. Very little gets by your attention if you are attracted or drawn to a situation. You will have a remarkable system of defences that radiate your moon and sun sign qualities and you can produce them efficiently when necessary. You will tend to be friendly but very impersonal keeping much of your truths private. You are generally not comfortable talking about yourself in any kind of depth. You are a natural 'hunter' and never give up once you are attached to a goal or objective. You will have tended to experience issues and events that most others fear or avoid....this is your exploration into the "scorpion" territory and while you do not emotionally live the experiences (unless your sun or moon are also in Scorpio) you will have viewed and observed them.

Taurus on the 7th House Cusp
Because Scorpio on the ascendant creates a unique and almost impenetrable barrier to 'who' you really are your intimate partners can be surprised by your tenacity, your strength and your tolerance if you are emotionally attached. This is the intimate part of you that needs and cherishes stability, security and strong relationship structures. There is an inherent need for tradition and solidity, for grounded and earthy passion and trust. The intensity created by Scorpio rising needs the secure walls that Taurus creates on the 7th house and partners must be able to supply a certain discipline, faithfulness and support as required and desired by the rest of your important chart points. (sun/moon/Venus etc) The unfathomable depths of the watery Scorpio persona have a very solid bottom that is reached in this Taurus placement. This is another fixed sign and holds it grounds with a firm dedication and an almost unwavering set of needs.

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morgana
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posted March 04, 2003 05:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well good for you Scorp1!

Hey guys, this was an enlightening read I just had. So many things said...
I see we're all worried about Uranus, but actually I'm quite fond of it - it's exciting!
Twinlady, I think this will be a good thing, Uranus and Mars in your first house. When Mars was transiting my Sun, it was a very good period for me, although I'm a Cancer - I was assertive and determined, I got things done... Well, yes, I was pretty combative, but all in all it was very good. I had to fight for some important things that I never did before, but it was so worth it. And hopefully Uranus will bring about changes that you need. For me the only really negative transit is Saturn's because it puts on the brakes as you so aptly said, and I hate that. So if you hate the brakes, you should love Mars and Uranus combined. I'd look forward to it if I were you

Harpyr, I just read your long post and I thought: Oh my, if I had a penny for every time that happened to me, I'd be a rich woman. Just kidding. But it's happened so many times that I think it's a pattern with some women. I just got to the conclusion that I have this attractive-repelling energy which men don't know how to deal with. First they are attracted, then they get scared or something and retreat, no matter which sign (many Scorpios among them, isn't that interesting?). I found that I must be careful how I act and be more mild and nice so that they don't get scared right away. But thankfully that's all over with now, I found a very brave Cancer (!) who had the guts and determination to stick around. Sorry for rambling on like this... And I also found that just when you're having the best time in your life and enjoy being single, The Guy comes along and wants to have you for himself. So have a good time, don't worry about it, and it'll just happen all on its own. The dating game sucks anyway

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posted March 04, 2003 05:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part 2:

Cat, I have a natal Mars in my 7th house and I'm very prone to arguing and fighting, it's like I need a constant sparring partner. It can be very exhausting for the other one, yes. And I tend to accumulate a lot of enemies without doing a thing to provoke them. But as for the relationship, I don't think this is such a bad thing, maybe it will give you some more initiative or drive or something. Maybe some action, haha (I'm just kidding, please don't get me wrong). As I said, it can be a very good thing, Mars. Hope you're feeling better and get well soon!

Poops, you'll certainly have an interesting time judging by your transits. But Uranus in the 4th won't be a bad thing I think, it will bring about changes, but nothing will fall apart except the things that have no solid ground, that's my opinion after surviving my 7th house Uranus transit (on top of my Mars!). I thought something earth-shattering would happen, but nothing did. It all stayed the same, if not even better. My relationship is the same as before - great. Maybe the key is to be prepared for it. So Uranus I think will affect only those things that you need it to affect, in fact I think that goes for all transits and the reason is our free will. If you're aware of what's happening, of course. As for Mars in Pisces, your hubby will probably become more aggressive and decisive... Maybe he'll surprise you Interesting times ahead, to say the least, yes. Which degree is your Neptune at?

Cat, what orb should be considered for transits? 2 degrees?

OK enough for now

Hi to everyone else!

, morgana

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