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Topic: Depression & Earth/Water Moons?
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Aphrodite unregistered
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posted February 28, 2003 08:50 PM
hehe n_wevil that's your interpretation of desks. IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 01, 2003 12:41 AM
Wood is the material that chi energy flows most naturally thru in Feng Shui practice. But it does depend on your birth year.IP: Logged |
Shieldrocks unregistered
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posted March 01, 2003 01:50 PM
How did we get from Depression to wood? **sigh** noone understands my flip remarks...IP: Logged |
N_wEvil unregistered
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posted March 01, 2003 02:24 PM
but metal has good properties too?i'd feel better about a desk thats made from a base element and not a slaughtered plant. although to me honest my little MDF desk is made from shredded wood too (i think) so it still counts soo..umm...yeah... another topic derailed! courtesy of wEvil productions™ IP: Logged |
Lost Leo unregistered
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posted March 01, 2003 06:28 PM
"and not a slaughtered plant" you're comedy Evil IP: Logged |
Shieldrocks unregistered
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posted March 01, 2003 07:22 PM
AAAARRRRRGGGGG!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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posted March 01, 2003 09:58 PM
I'm a scorpio sun and one of my friends is a virgo with scorpio moon. I'm not emotional (i.e. tears) though she can be extremely so. I really get confused by it? I seem to have a hard time understanding that type of emotional level. Which I don't think there is a thing wrong with it.... just that it puzzles me. She puzzles me..... IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 04:26 AM
N_w - My pops used to have a big ole' metal US Gov't issue desk. I could try to track it down for you, but it's bound to be a b*tch to ship overseas...it must weigh, heck, I dunno, as much as some of those freaky 3-wheeled cars ya'll have over there.(Don't worry SR; we just have short attention spans here...dam that MTV! ) Hm. Well, I's be a Fish w/ an Aqua Moon, and while I can be moody and broody, my Virgo Sun/Scorp Moon sis can be more so (and my Cancer Sun/Cappie Moon bro...oy, don't get me started...but he's 15 so I think that that may be required). Re: My Scorp Moon Sis, though - she can be depressed, although she has masterful means of concealing it (amphetamines, anyone?), but - and this is a fact that she recognizes and is a little proud of, so I'm not exaggerating - she nearly always takes her reactions a notch above where they really need to be (ie - My step-bro pushes her, she stabs him in the leg). Re: My Cancer/Cappie bro - I can't give anything approaching an objective opinion on him, because people say that he comes out of his shell around me (ba dum dum..."his shell"...he's a Cancer...har har). Now my father...he's a Libra with a Cancer Moon, and he definitely has major depressive and pessimistic tendencies. And my Grandma (my Mom's Mom) - she's an Aqua Sun/Taurus Moon and about as stalwart and steady a person as you could hope to meet (esp. w/ her Cappie Asc). She is, however, exhibiting a little depression now that she's older (but then my Grandpa's passed...). Hm. I don't know anyone else's Moons off hand... Oh, my ex - he was a Taurus w/ a Pisces Moon, and although he was a bit of a blowhard, he was really this great throbbing ball of insecurity. He had his bouts of misanthropy back in HS, too. And, I may be wrong with this, but I tend to think that the more "physical" Suns (read: Taurus) may tend to take their...whatever...out, well, physically, and he's broken more than his share of dude's noses. I'll quit talking about him now, 'cause doing so makes me sad.
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Shieldrocks unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 10:14 AM
Prox, Maybe it's just our Aquarius moon (I have one too) that makes us unemotional or completely oblivious to depression...who knows. As for N_Evil, Care to step outside this thread..just one on one.. -SR IP: Logged |
Cat Newflake Posts: 0 From: USA Registered: Oct 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 11:10 AM
Hi Everyone Interesting discussion I have a saggi moon - so the eternal optimist Here's something to "add into the mix".... Re depression.....You should also look at Mars.....does it have any stressful aspects being made to it in the natal chart? Plus look at any transits that may be affecting the natal Mars. If you think about it, Mars is how we go after what we want etc....so if something stops us from getting what we want, it can cause frustration and in some people actual depression. Really though the whole chart needs to be looked at. By way of example, Muse mentioned Virgo Rising and Pisces ruling her 7th as a few of the things that makes her sensitive or depressed. (Muse I know you mentioned a couple of other things as well) Anyway, I have Virgo Asc & a Pisces 7th house - I can relate to the sensitivity (but I also have a 12th house stellium) but I really never get depressed. Sue IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 12:18 PM
Oh, nonononono, Shieldrocks - I've been depressed. Oh, boy, I've been depressed (if we're going to go w/ the Earth/Water thing, I have a Pisces Sun, Scorpio Asc, Pisces Merc, Taurean Venus, Virgo Jupiter & Saturn, and Scorp Uranus), but I've also learned (although it took me 'bout 22 years) to think myself out of it as well as I can think myself in, and that may very well be due to my Aqua Moon.Re: The Mars Connection: Someone looking back seemed to link my bouts of depression to stressful or misshandled transits to my 1st House Uranus, but it's at 25°29' Scorpio and my 10th House Mars is at 29°36' Leo (and my NN is at 29°08' Leo), so I guess an aspect to one is an aspect to the others, right? IP: Logged |
N_wEvil unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 12:58 PM
I am definately tied into the mars cycle - every 2 years around about autumn time i do generally get depressed, starting with being highly demotivated and pessimistic and usually winding up around christmas-january being rather out of control. The trend continues for about 3-4 months before I recover. And this happens every 2 years, like clockwork - nothing I can do about it except weather it.Anyways...damn, im at home so i lost all my cool smilies IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 01:02 PM
*tangent girl addresses tangent boy*N_w - Do you have a program like EmotiPad? *and then the Lion in the corner*
LL - You said that it depends on your birth year; I'm a Metal Monkey, how 'bout me? *turns back to tangent boy* Did you use any from mysmilies.com? It appears that they went belly-up; half of mine aren't working anymore. I found a site ( http://www.clicksmilies.de/ ), though, that seems to have most of my missing ones. You just have to be able to more or less navigate through the German language (Herzlich willkommen bei clicksmilies!)...although with categories such as "Liebe", "Cool", "Auto", and "Aktion", it's not so hard. I must say, however, that the smilies available have reconfirmed my stand that Germans are whacked in the head. (Some examples: )
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Cat Newflake Posts: 0 From: USA Registered: Oct 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 01:09 PM
Hi Proxieme Yes, if you look purely at the elements. You could think about the extremes of the elements. ie: Earth can be lush, green, fertile, things growing etc or can be dry, brown, things dying/wilting. Water can be clear, smoothe calm, or can be deep, dark, murky, stormy etc. Just a thought re your natal Mars. It's at 29 degree - which is considered to be a critical degree. Sue Here's a bit of info re that for you..... The Anaretic Degree, sometimes also called the Karmic Degree, is most often referred to as the 29th degree. To better understand its significance, let's break it down mathematically: The full wheel of the Zodiac contains 360 degrees and is composed of 12 houses (representing the 12 Signs). Thus, each house contains 30 degrees. Each degree within a house is labelled 0-29; therefore, the 29th degree is the last degree that a planet travels through in any house. If you have a planet positioned at the 29th degree in any of the houses of the Zodiac in your chart, you could say that planet is stationed at the Anaretic Degree. Your personal astrological chart is a snapshot of the planets in the heavens. It captures the location of the planets within the houses at the exact time of your birth. Astrologers look to the characteristics of the planet at a Karmic Degree and respect its teachings. In Astrology, it is very significant if you have a planet at the Anaretic Degree. If a planet is in this position at the time of your birth, it means that you are very close to mastering an important lesson of the universe, but you have not quite achieved success. It is only when the lesson of that planet is mastered that you may move on and progress spiritually and universally. People with an Anaretic Degree have a lesson to learn. Astrologers take the meaning of planets at an Anaretic Degree and encourage people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to correctly utilise the energy of that planet. The lessons it indicates cannot be ignored if the individual wants to grow and transcend or achieve reincarnation and spiritual reinvention of the physical form. Below is a list of the meanings of each of the planets when they are positioned at the Anaretic Degree. For a more precise reading, the attributes of a planet at the Karmic Degree must be taken into consideration along with the Houses and the Signs that the planets occupy. Mars at 29 degree Problems with asserting yourself have always been an issue; you're on the cusp of either learning how to be more aggressive or learning to keep your aggressions in check. Learn to put your needs out on the table rather than surrounding yourself with people who fight your battles for you. You have suppressed passions that you need to bring to the surface. Get closer to your own sexual energy and expertise and bring the lessons of assertiveness into the bedroom as well. Once you have courage and willpower, you can have whatever you want. Pay close attention to your health concerning blood, cuts, burns and headaches. IP: Logged |
Cat Newflake Posts: 0 From: USA Registered: Oct 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 01:17 PM
Hi N_w You mention "every 2 years" re your Mars cycle. Is that tied in with when Mars goes retro? Hmmm, I'm now wondering how Mars may affect you this year as it will be the closest it's been to the earth for a very long time - plus also goes retro this year. What're your thoughts re that? Sue IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 02:42 PM
Very cool. Thank you, Suzy. A question or two pops-up, though (I searched on-line for info, but I kept getting glossaries w/ a cursory definition of "The Anaretic Degree", or more or less the above info): For a more precise reading, the attributes of a planet at the Karmic Degree must be taken into consideration along with the Houses and the Signs that the planets occupy. Do you know where I can find that info? As I said, I searched "google", but diddly appeared. Something I saw on my own, though (see, I am making progress ... ): Astrologers take the meaning of planets at an Anaretic Degree and encourage people to push themselves in the directions of the planet's characteristics. This planetary position signifies an urgent need to correctly utilise the energy of that planet. Looks like I'm pushing myself that way, too, since my NN is only a few degrees away from that Anaretic Mars. Hm. Would you say that my Mars is there to push my NN, my NN is there to push my Mars, or both? Thankya kindly for aiding in my slow but steady accumulation of astrological knowledge. IP: Logged |
Shieldrocks unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 02:54 PM
Cat & Prox,You might be onto something there with looking at Mars. I have Mars in Saggitarius which is trine with several other planets. Maybe that's it...or the fact I have one outer planet in a water sign. :smile: N_WEvil, Don't take me too seriously IP: Logged |
N_wEvil unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 03:26 PM
*tangentboi™ adresses Tangentchik™*I mostly get my smilies off other boards I frequent *tangentboi™ adresses Sieldrocks* okok, i was just kidding! hehehehe *tangentboi™ adresses Cat* I'm not sure what most of my transits are to be honest - 6th feb 1982 11:07am in Luton, UK - I know I have a saturn thing going on right now but thats about it. IP: Logged |
brunnhilde unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 03:42 PM
I personally love my Aquarius moon because it stops me from going over the edge...emotionally.I'm a fish wtih Scorpio ascendant and Mars in the seventh so I get involved in drama pretty quick....but I've noticed that when I do my common-sense just sits me right back down and says 'ok are you finished? let's figure this out now and do something anout it if we can!'i just love the way tath works ...took me thirty years for that lesson!!! And I do get depressed but it's like diving ...I go down till I hit bottom and push myself back up.Now taht I know this I wallow a lot less at the bottom of the pool! Proxi ..I too find it funny that my Aquarius moon seems to keep me level while friends and family deal with very emotional ones.I seem to continuously be getting them out of the dumps.IP: Logged |
Cat Newflake Posts: 0 From: USA Registered: Oct 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 03:56 PM
Hi Proxieme This is an excellent site.... http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm It also gives info re transits as well. Sue PS: The South Node is lessons we've already learnt and have brought with us. The North Node is where we're heading - the lessons we are learning now. IP: Logged |
Cat Newflake Posts: 0 From: USA Registered: Oct 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 04:04 PM
Hi Shieldrocks Your Mars sounds like it's very nicely aspected - trines are very nice aspects Having only one outer planet in water means you have a lack of water in your chart - or in fact it can be classed as having no water due to the only planet being an outer one. This doesn't mean to say that you have no feelings/emotions. Some people with no water can find it difficult to express what they're feeling inside but some people will over compensate for the lack of water and so can become very emotional. How do you think the water lack affects you? Sue IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 856 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 04:15 PM
I always figure it`s everyone & everythings fault when I head into the depression crapper . Aqua sun, cappy asc and virgo moon... I never know whats up w/me & have about 3 bouts a year. I just eat chocolate & cuss til it goes away knowing this too will pass.. juniperb IP: Logged |
Cat Newflake Posts: 0 From: USA Registered: Oct 2009
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posted March 02, 2003 04:39 PM
Hi N_w Yes Saturn has been hitting all the mutable signs - you will have felt that as all your angles (Asc, Desc, MC & IC) are mutable. Plus Saturn has also crossed over your ascendant as it's now transiting your 1st house. (Actually now it's direct it will very soon leave your 1st and move into your 2nd house - your 2nd house cusp is 27 degree Gemini)Other current transits you have are... Jupiter in 4th house Pluto in 7th house Mars in 7th but just about to go into your 8th house Chiron in 9th house. Venus in 9th just about to go into your 10th house Mercury, Neptune & Uranus are transiting your 10th house. Sun just started to transit your 11th house NN is transiting your 12th house about will pass over your ascendant very shortly and move into your 1st house. Sue PS: In your natal chart.... I noticed that you have natal Saturn making an exact (0 degree) square to your Moon. Mars also squares your Moon natally but that's not so tight - 4 degrees. IP: Logged |
N_wEvil unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 07:06 PM
i might have guessed it'd be that old coot saturn running amok (again)thanks Cat IP: Logged |
Shieldrocks unregistered
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posted March 02, 2003 10:27 PM
Cat,I tend to rationalize my feelings..alot. It's hard for me to express them at times in front of other people. I hate to cry in public or in front of someone...it's a kiss of death for me, I'd rather get a root canal. Sometimes if I haven't cried in 6 months, I'll watch "lifetime" just to get it our of my system. Weird huh? IP: Logged | |