posted April 19, 2003 02:56 AM              

you sound very convinced of the validity of Naibod (?). am not very familiar with the term. is it what your form of astrology is called?

very interesting about the part where you take at least three major dated events in a person's life and testing all aspects to see how they fit.

posted April 19, 2003 04:10 AM              

I had a couple of chart rectifications for birthtime done by two different, experienced astrologers, and so I know it's tough to calculate a prior time based on only a few events. Both of them were wrong; as I say, it's not easy work.

But when you say:

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I will be more than happy to explain this revolutionary [or--I should say--RE- EMERGING] form of astrology to anyone who is willing to put forth the effort and hard work to restoring astrology back to its great heights it once held in the past!

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...do you mean that you are willing to pass on the knowledge as a teacher to a student? Or are you offering to do charts for folks, or something else?

Lindaland has a great Astrology Course in progress, and maybe you could offer a class there. Do contact our Webmaster, Randall

posted April 19, 2003 01:43 PM              

I would like to learn more about vedic astrology because I often get specific questions from individuals about their chance of getting a job, or getting married, and western astrology isn't geared toward that type of question.

Both types of astrology add to our knowledge and offer valuable insights. It just depends upon the question being asked.

posted April 19, 2003 05:00 PM              

"soul of each person reviews his or her horoscope BEFORE the person enters this world physically"

You seem to imply that the soul has a gender, did you mean to do so?

I agree completely on the soul determing the best birth to provide opportunities for growth in this life.

posted April 19, 2003 06:41 PM            

"the soul of each person reviews his or her horoscope BEFORE the person enters this world physically---by reincarnation! This is done during the process of labor. Once the soul selects the most optimum horoscope for him or her, THEN the person is born into this world"

What makes you say that the soul only reviews his/her horoscope during the process of labour? Why not before that? I once read that for every Soul that is born there are 10,000 other Souls wanting that position. So again I wonder why that decision would only happen during labour - some labours can be very long and others can be incredibly short.
Sue

posted April 20, 2003 05:25 AM              

I have to agree with Lanny. To say that this form of astrology is the absolute truth, you are implying that thousands of years of astrology based on natal charts (time of the first breath) is wrong. How can you make such a sweeping statement?

Personally, I live in the physical world, therefore I believe that my natal chart and when I came into the physical world is the chart that is most accurate for me. Yes, the theory you have is nice, but for goodness sakes ... do really think anyone can really determine when their soul selects their Horoscope? Give me something concrete like a pre-natal eclipse at least!

There are many types of astrology and divination and they all have something to offer. For now I'll stick with something tried and true. My faith is in Linda, Liz Greene, Evangeline Adams, Kepler, Ptolomy, Carl Sagan, Alan Leo, Dane Rudhyar. I've never heard of John Willner.

My suggestion if you are trying to introduce a different astrological perspective, is to use a little more tact.

Love and Light,

posted April 20, 2003 10:55 AM            

We are tough eggs to crack, since Linda was a first-breath astrologer and used the Equal House system.

posted April 20, 2003 12:55 PM              

As Randall said "We are tough eggs to crack". Some of us are tougher than others. I'm about as tough as they get.

Respectfully,

Heidi

posted April 20, 2003 01:01 PM              

The soul of the true philosopher abstains as much as possible from pleasures and desires, griefs and fears...for in consequence of its forming the same opinions as the body, and delighting in the same things, it can never pass into Hades in a pure state, but must ever depart polluted by the body, and so quickly falls into another body, and consequently is deprived of all association with that which is divine and pure and uniform.

Know that if you become worse you will go to the worse souls, and if better, to the better souls; and in every succession of life and death you will do and suffer what like must fitly suffer at the hands of the like.

Elsewhere Plato describes how disincarnate souls choose their new lives by drawing lots:

Well, I will tell you a tale of what once happened to a brave man, Er, the son of Armenius, a native of Pamphylia, who, according to story, was killed in battle...On the twelfth day after his death, as he lay on the funeral pyre, he came to life again, and then proceeded to describe what he had seen in the other world...

Each soul, as it arrived, wore a travel-stained appearance...and those who had descended from heaven by those who had risen out of the earth; while the latter were questioned by the former about the earth. Those who were come form earth told their tale with lamentations and tears, while those who were come from heaven described enjoyments and sights of marvellous beauty...

Now the souls were required to go to Lachesis. An interpreter first of all marshalled them in order, and then having taken from the lap of Lachesis a number of lots and plans for life, mounted a high pulpit and spoke as follows...'Ye short-lived souls, a new generation of men shall here begin the cycle of its mortal existence. Your destiny shall not be alloted to you, (instead) you shall choose it for yourselves. Let him who draws the first lot be the first to choose a life, which shall then be his irrevocably. Virtue owns no master. He who honors Her shall have more of Her, and he who slights Her, less. The responsibility lies with the chooser. Heaven is guiltless.'

Having said this, he threw the lots down upon the crowd; and each spirit took up the one which fell at his side, except Er himself, who was forbidden to do so...This, my dear Claucon, is apparently a moment when everything is at stake with a man; and for this reason, above all others, it is the duty of each of us diligently to investigate and study, to the neglect of every other subject, that science which may haply enable a man to learn and discover who will render him so instructed as to be able to form a judgment from all these data combined, and, with an eye steadily fixed on the nature of the soul, to choose between the good and evil life, giving the name evil to the life which will draw the soul into becoming more unjust, and the name of good to the life which will lead it to become more just, and bidding farewell to every other consideration.

It was truly a wonderful sight, he said, to watch how each soul selected its life - a sight at once melancholy, and ludicrous, and strange. The experience of their former life generally guided the choice...It so happened that the soul of Odysseus had drawn the last lot of all. When he came up to choose, the memory of his former sufferings had so abated his ambition, that he went about a long time looking for a quiet, retired life, which with great trouble he finally discovered (where it had been thrown conteptuously aside by the others). As soon as he saw it, he chose it gladly, and said tha he would have done the same even if he had drawn the first lot...

Now, when all the souls had chosen their lives in order of the lots...they all took up their quarters by the bank of the river of Indifference, where waters cannot be held in any vessel. All persons are compelled to drink a certain quantity of the water; (those who are not preserved by prudence drink more than their allotted measure); and each, as he drinks, forgets everything. when they had gone to rest, and it was now midnight, there was a clap of thunder and an earthquake; an in a moment the souls were carried up to their birth, this way and that, like shooting stars. Er himself was prevented from drinking any of the water; but how, and by what road, he reached his body, he knew not: only he knew that he suddenly opened his eyes at dawn, and found himself laid out upon the funeral pyre.

The Republic, (Book X)

from http://www.lovestarz.com/suppression.html

also see http://www.lovestarz.com/reincarnation.html