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lioneye68
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I recently learned of these 2 asteroids, Eros being like an auxiliary to Mars, and Psyche being like an auxiliary to Venus. Apparantly Eros represents a man's desires, and Psyche represents a woman's desires. (I may be oversimplifing their meaning, if so, I apologize)
Has anyone studied these two asteroids at all, and come to any conclusions regarding their significance? My partner and I have some aspects with them, and I'm wondering how much of a "pull" they have.

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Hello Lioneye68,

I haven't done anything with Psyche but I have played with Eros. I was under the impression that Eros was more a Mars/Venus influence, whether in a male or female's charts. It's hard to know because there is so little information on either of them.

Just an FYI, I have Eros at 7 deg. Aries. It is exactly conjunct my boyfriends sun. I definitely think it's worth looking at Eros in your chart.

For anyone running charts on Astro.com, the asteroid number for Eros is 433.

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http://library.thinkquest.org/J002356F/erospsyche.htm

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Thanks for the cool link Cat!

Hmmmmmmmm .. I have Psyche conjunct my North Node. Guess I'm supposed to ponder this one.

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I've found some articles that I had saved on my computer ages ago. I can't give you a site link as I have no idea where I saved these from
The articles are very long, so I'll copy & paste them by subject heading....
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The Mythology of Eros

"Of the portents recorded in ancient tales many did happen and will happen again."
--Plato

Where does love and passion reside in myth? Everywhere! The gods and goddesses where never lukewarm about anything they desired. The first place to look for clues about passion and love, though, is in the beginning, in the myth of creation itself.
Love first emerges in Greek mythology as one of four original deities. They include Chaos, the dark and silent abyss from which all things are born, Gaea or mother earth, Tartarus, the lowest regions of the underworld and Eros, the god of love.
"In truth at first Chaos came to be, but next wide-bosomed Earth, the ever-sure foundation of al the deathless ones who hold the peaks of snowy Olympus, and dim Tartarus in the depth of the wide-pathed Earth, [120] and Eros (Love), fairest among the deathless gods, who unnerves the limbs and overcomes the mind and wise counsels of all gods and all men within them."
This suggests that Eros, and all he represents, assumes a major role as a primary and pre-eminent god. Although his form changes throughout history, his power to cause things to mingle remains his initial and fundamental domain.
Eros descends through mythology, transforming headlong into progressively more accessible figures. First as the son of Chaos, hatched from the egg of night, he creates the manifest wold. His form here is amorphous and intangible, omnipotent and ineffable.
Eros does soon take shape though. In some versions of myth he is portrayed as the powerful igniter of union that eventually brought forth the race of immortal Olympians. All winged creatures, from geese to falcons, proudly claim him as the father of their race.
Firstly, blackwinged Night laid a germless egg in the bosom of the infinite deeps of Erebus, and from this, after the revolution of long ages, sprang the graceful Eros with his glittering golden wings, swift as the whirlwinds of the tempest. He mated in deep Tartarus with dark Chaos, winged like himself, and thus hatched forth our race, which was the first to see the light… Thus our origin is very much older than that of the dwellers in Olympus. We are the offspring of Eros; there are a thousand proofs to show it. We have wings and we lend assistance to lovers.
Shortly after fathering the race of birds, Eros creates harmony throughout the universe as the child of Uranus, the starry heavens, and Gaea, or mother earth. Now he has tangible parents and thus comes a little closer to embodiment.
Later myth portrays Eros as the son of Artemis, the moon goddess, and Hermes, the trickster. He also claims Iris, guardian of the rainbow and Zephyrs, god of the north wind as parents. In Phoenician Mythology, he is the son of Chronas and Ashtart.
When Eros appears as Aphrodite’s son, he manifests as a youthful winged deity, the lithe and gorgeous god of love. He carries a bow and quiver of arrows which he selectively shoots into the hearts of the unsuspecting.
You carry along the unyielding hearts of the immortals, Aphrodite, and the hearts of men, and with you is he of the many-coloured wings, surrounding them with his swift pinions. Eros flies over the earth and over the loud-roaring salt sea and bewitches the one on whose frenzied mind he darts, winged and gold-gleaming, he bewitches the whelps of the mountain and those of the sea, what the earth brings forth and what the blazing sun looks down upon, and likewise mortal men.
In this form, he has seemingly abandoned the title ‘creator of harmony’ for the mischievous roll of ‘animator of love’. The experience of love that Eros injects into man and gods, and according to Euripides, all creatures of the land and sea alike, is anything but harmonious. It is the obsessive, adrenaline driven intensity of falling in love, often with the completely wrong person. In some accounts, Eros is equipped with two distinct kinds of darts. The ones dipped in gold cause the victim to fall madly in love and the ones dipped in lead cause an equally vial repulsion. Either way, it seems, it is Eros who now creates chaos!
The mixed parenthood of the god of love, as well as his transforming images, (some versions of myth have him assisting Aphrodite at her birth and in others he is her offspring), may illustrates ongoing changes in the collective awareness of the concept of erotic love and creativity. As the son of chaos, he has no tangible form. He is the power of attraction that co-ordinates the elements of the universe bringing harmony to all creation. In this role, Eros is more a cosmic force than an actual god of passionate or personal love. Portrayed as the son of Aphrodite, goddess of love, he embodies a humanoid form and eventually experiences the power and passion of love himself in his relationship to the mortal woman Psyche.
Eros then manifests as the Roman god Cupid, the son of Mars, the god of war and action and Venus, goddess of love. Here he no longer is the dangerously attractive youth capable of succumbing to the same fate of his victims. In his child-like state, he is prepubescent and immune to his own arts.
Cupid, often depicted blindfolded to mark the seemingly indiscriminate nature of love, now takes the form of a laughing, naughty infant who delightfully shoots arrows into the hearts of the unaware. His victims respond depending on the temper of their feelings. The cold, hard heart dies, the gentle but perhaps broken heart heals in ecstasy. It is the nature of erotic love to transform the participants in accordance with their own disposition.
The metamorphosis from ineffable creator of harmony to mischievous little baby god is quite a leap. It suggests an attempt to convert the unfathomable, impersonal and all mighty deity to an accessible humanised figure representing very personal needs and feelings. Jung speaks of Eros in this way:
"In Classical times, when such things were properly understood, Eros was considered a god whose divinity transcended our human limits, and who therefore could neither be comprehended nor represented in any way. I might, as many before me have attempted to do, venture an approach to this daimon, whose range of activity extends from the endless spaces of the heavens to the dark abysses of hell; but I falter before the task of finding the language which might adequately express the incalculable paradoxes of love."
Some of these incalculable paradoxes are portrayed in the love story of Psyche and Eros. In this myth, we can see the actions and desires of three very important images of love, passion and desire portrayed by Eros, Venus/Aphrodite and the mortal Psyche.

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The Myth of Eros & Psyche

"Myths evoke feelings and imagination and touch on themes that are part of the human collective inheritance. The myths…remain current and personally relevant because there is a ring of truth in them about shared human experience."
--Jean Shinoda Bolen, MD

The story of Psyche and Eros offers a great deal of insight into the archetypal image of love, Eros and his prospective role in the astrological chart. The most recent detailed mythology regarding Eros comes from The Golden Ass, written by Lucius Apuleius in 170 AD and tells of the love between Psyche and Eros. This myth is no less relevant for its extensive study, analysis and use as models for relationship, the emergence of consciousness, and the path of erotic love.
The story opens with a description of Psyche’s two older sisters. They were extremely beautiful, but when Psyche grew into womanhood, it was said of her:
" Yet the singular passing beauty and maidenly majesty of the youngest daughter did so far surmount and excel them two (sisters), as no earthly creature could by any means sufficiently express or set out the same."
Psyche is a beauty. She enchants her father’s modest kingdom with an unobtainable and virginal loveliness that sets the inhabitants to worshipping. In only a short time, word of Psyche’s beauty has spread throughout the countryside and people swarm to see her. Meanwhile, Aphrodite’s temples are neglected. Not a good look for the goddess of love.
Predictably, Aphrodite experiences extreme insult at this delinquency. In a jealous rage, she elicits the help of her son Eros to punish the usurping Psyche and the mortals that adore her. She instructs Eros to pierce Psyche with one of his golden tipped arrows causing her to fall in love with a worthless, wretched and vial being. While Eros and Aphrodite plot her demise, Psyche pines.
In her naivete, Psyche, though beautiful and magnetic, feels miserable. The known world may worship her, but no real man comes courting. She is like an object of art, a rare painting or precious vase. Apuleius puts it this way:
"Psyche…lamented her solitary life, and being disquieted both in mind and body, although she pleased all the world, yet hated she in her self her own beauty."
Concerned by his youngest daughter’s despair, Psyche’s father seeks the advice of the Oracle of Apollo, the consciousness of the sun. He is shocked by what he hears for it seems the King’s precious daughter must be sacrificed to a demon god, or terrible ruin would befall the kingdom. Apuleius’ quotes the oracle:
"Let Psyches corps be clad in mourning weed
And set on rock of yonder hill aloft:
Her husband is no wight of humane seed,
But Serpent dire and fierce as might be thought.
Who flies with wings above in starry skies,
And doth subdue each thing with firie flight.
The gods themselves, and powers that seem so wise,
With mighty Jove, be subject to his might,
The rivers black, and deadly floods of pain,
And darkness eke [*] , as thrall to him remain."
Psyche accepted her fate as the entire kingdom despondently joined the funeral procession to the lonely rock where she is to meet her ‘death’ and marry the ‘serpent dire’. Psyche then questions her parent’s belated remorse.
"Why torment you your unhappy age with continual dolou? …Now you see the reward of my excellent beauty: now, now you perceive, but too late, the plague of envy. When the people did honour me, and call me the new Venus,
then ye should have wept, then you should have sorrowed as though I had been dead: for now I see and perceive that I am come to this misery by the only name of Venus, bring me, and as fortune hath appointed, place me on the top of the rock, I greatly desire to end my marriage, I greatly covet to
see my husband. Why doe I delay? Why should I refuse him that is appointed to destroy all the world."
No one suspects that Eros, the son of Aphrodite, the golden god of love, has accidentally pricked himself on one of his own arrows and fallen madly in love with the mortal Psyche. None of Psyche’s distraught family members could guess that Eros plans to abduct her for himself. Although at this point, we might examine the oracle of Apollo more closely and ask if it may actually be indeed Eros the augury is referring to.
Eros then sends Zephyrs, god of the North wind, to retrieve Psyche from the rock and bring her to his palace. There Psyche’s wishes are tended by invisible servants who anticipate her every need. She rests, bathes and eats among the gold, ivory and jewelled mosaics that adorn the enchanted home of the god of love.
With unseen musicians playing a heavenly symphony, Eros comes to Psyche by night and makes ‘perfect consummation’ of their marriage. Night after night he keeps her company, stealing away only just before dawn. He has made Psyche promise to never look upon his face and initially she agrees. She is enchanted by the palace, her new husband and the magical servants who cater to her every need. Only the tiniest bit of loneliness befalls her in the day.
However, her loneliness and desire for human contact grows until she passes both the days and nights with tears of distress and longing. Eros, concerned by her condition, finally agrees to allow Psyche’s sister to visit, but he warns her again not to gaze upon his face. Her curiosity, he said, would bring about the end of their life together and cause the child growing inside her to be mortal, not divine.
The visit from Psyche’s sisters turns out to be as destructive as Eros feared. Feigning joy at their reunion, Psyche’s siblings are actually stricken with fierce jealousy. They suggest her husband is an evil serpent (that image again) who needs destroying before he devours Psyche and her unborn child whole. They press her to hide a razor and a lamp near the bed. When he falls asleep, she is to light the lamp and cut off his head. Psyche is flooded with anxiety and the ambivalent fear that they may speak the truth!
Torn between loyalty to her sisters and loyalty to her husband, she eventually gets up, lights the lamp and approaches the bed with the razor. When Psyche discovers that her husband is the stunning and resplendent god Eros, she is overwhelmed by the vision. In rapture she accidentally pricks herself on one of his arrows and adds ‘love upon love’ to what she already feels for him. She covers him with kisses and in the process, a splash of hot oil burns the beautiful god. He jumps up, looks at her with astonishment and deep disappointment and runs. Psyche grabs his leg and holds on as he leaps into the air until she finally drops to the ground in exhaustion. He lands near her saying:
"O simple Psyches, consider with thy self how I, little regarding the
commandment of my mother (who willed me that thou shouldst be married
to a man of base and miserable condition) did come my self from heaven to love thee, and wounded mine own body with my proper weapons, to have thee to my Spouse: And did I seem a beast unto thee, that thou shouldst go about to cut off my head with a razor, who loved thee so well? Did not I always give thee a charge? Did not I gently will thee to beware? But those cursed adlers and Counsellors of thine shalt be sufficiently punished by my absence."
Shocked, overwhelmed, and suffering greatly, Psyche experienced a crucial point in her relationship with Eros. At last, she discovers the inheritance of her unborn child. She also finally understands who it is she has fallen in love with. For Psyche, there is no turning back. She must reunited with Eros or die.
This point in the myth is not suggesting we never look at the face of Eros, or that by never questioning him will guarantee his presence forever. It is more an account of discovering what we really want and the steps necessary to obtain it. Until now, Psyche did not know who she loved. This knowledge, however, does not make Psyche any less despairing. As she watches his figure recede into the distance, she throws herself into a river in hopes of drowning.
As chance would have it, the river, being a friend of Eros, places Psyche back safely on the bank. As she struggled up from the muddy shore, she saw Pan, instructing, or perhaps seducing, a young woman. He looked upon the dishevelled Psyche and said:
"O faire maid, I am a rustic and rude herdsman, howbeit by reason of my old age expert in many things, for as far as I can learn by conjecture (which according as wise men do term is called divination) I perceive by your uncertain gate, your pale hew, your sobbing sighs, and your watery eyes, that you are greatly in love."
Pan goes on to suggest to Psyche that she forgo suicide and focus on devoting herself to winning Eros back. Initially, she takes his advice to heart.
Psyche’s first action is to confront her jealous sisters. Upon entering her oldest sister’s city Psyche explains that it was the son of Aphrodite that was her husband but when he saw she had betrayed him, he sent her away and said he’d have the sister instead. Wild with this news, the sister raced to the mountain and beseeched Zephyrs to carry her to Eros, but as she leapt off the rock, no wind lifted her and she crashed to her death in the fall. The same happened to the second sister and thus Psyche felt revenged.
Meanwhile, Eros fled to his mother’s house to have his sever burn tended. Empathetic at first, Aphrodite became enraged when she discovered Eros’s disloyalty. Brutally, she rebukes Eros for betraying her wishes and takes away his bow and arrows, cuts his hair and clips his wings. She probably slammed the door as she stormed out as well!
The incensed Aphrodite then solicits the aid of Hera and Ceres to help find Psyche, but they, fearing Eros’s darts at some point in the future, try to reconcile the mother to her son. Aphrodite will not be soothed.
By now Psyche realises her only course of action is to seek out the forgiveness of Aphrodite, who seems to be very much in control of her fate. She approaches the palace of the goddess of love to pray for redemption although that is not what she receives. Aphrodite humiliates Psyche, has her whipped and beaten and then presents her with a series of impossible tasks. The goddess of love is convinced a mere mortal will fail her labours, and Psyche isn’t a lot more confident either.
Psyche’s first task in regaining the love of Eros is to sort an enormous pile of mixed grains. She must separate them by evening. As Aphrodite smugly shuts the door behind her, Psyche goes into a catatonic state of despair. She can not even attempt to sort the grains. The job is that impossible. As she lays crumpled on the ground sobbing, a tiny ant comforts her. Calling to his friends, more and more ants come and by evening the grains are sorted neatly into their individual piles by the tiny insects.
It is important to notice that the help offered to psyche is completely unconscious. She neither actively requests aid or contributes any effort in the sorting of the grains. This image may suggest the myriad mixed feeling and emotions that course through the mind and body of one ‘stricken with love’ and highlights the lax of rationality that accompanies it. It also may imply the innate ability of the body to sort those feelings out, one by one, although not with the aid of consciousness, but by its acquiescence.
When Aphrodite returns and sees the labour complete, she assigns Psyche with an even more difficult task. She instructs the girl to go out into a field in the burning sun and collect golden wool from the fleece of man-eating rams.
Psyches gets up, not to do as Aphrodite commanded, but to throw herself headlong into the water, again to drown her sorrows. Then a green reed speaks to her saying:
"O Psyches I pray thee not to trouble or pollute my water by the death of thee, and yet beware that thou go not towards the terrible sheep of this coast, until such time as the heat of the sun be past, for when the sun is in his force, then seem they most dreadful and furious, with their sharp horns, their stony foreheads and their gaping throats, wherewith they arm themselves to the destruction of mankind. But until they have refreshed themselves in the river, thou maist hide thy self here by me, under this great plain tree, and as soon as their great fury is past, thou maist go among the thickets and bushes under the wood side and gather the locks their golden Fleeces, which thou shalt find hanging up on the briers."
It seems the dangerous and passionate rams were unapproachable in their wild state. Direct confrontation would mean certain death, just as anger and hatred, although they can erupt along side of love, can also be love’s death. Having contained the burning passion of the wild rams, Psyche presents handfuls of golden wool to Aphrodite by morning.
Without pause, Psyche immediately receives another labour. Now she must gather water from the deadly rapids of the river Styx. She receives only a crystal bottle to contain the black liquid, the sight of which brings fear even to the hearts’ of the gods.
As Psyche climbed up the path towards the headwaters of the Styx, she intended again to end her life. She could glean no hope of ever accomplishing her task. When she arrived at the crest she stopped stone still and gazed at the two giant and bloody necked dragons guarding the precipice which marked, hundreds of feet below, the caustic waters of the river Styx.
Psyche went catatonic, again. She felt nothing in her body or her heart, neither could she take action of any kind. At this point, Zeus’s eagle swooped down to her. It is not clear whether Zeus sent him or he came of his own accord—yet there is implication that Zeus felt indebted to Eros for the affair with Ganimedes, the young boy made cup bearer to the gods. The great eagle spoke to Psyche and offered to take the bottle and collect the deadly black water himself. This he does and Psyche, not of her own accord, completes yet another task.
Unlike the fierce and wild nature of the passionate rams, the waters of the river Styx may represent the cold cruel hatred of frozen feelings. It seems these too must be faced and contained if Eros is to be won back. Like the wool and the sorting of the grain, psyche must step aside, stand still, or even sleep, allowing the unconscious to complete the task. Readers who find it frustrating that Psyche never seems to gain any overt courage, resolve or strength from her subsequent tasks probably view this ‘stepping aside’ as weak or degrading. On the contrary, in this case it is the necessary and only way to accomplish the labour. It is the only way to unravel the complex repercussions of love.
The final task of Psyche requires a decent into the underworld. She has to borrow some of Persephone’s beauty and place it in a box. She must deliver the box to Aphrodite, unopened and untouched.
Again, psyche’s first and foremost response is suicide. What quicker way to get to Hades than to die? She climbs to the top of a tower and attempts to throw herself off. The tower, however, is inspired, (it is unclear by whom), and speaks to Psyche. He instructs her on how to enter the underworld without dying, how to avoid the distractions that will play upon her virtue and humanity, how to behave with Persephone and how to get out alive, with the box of beauty intact. Finally, Psyche gets to perform a task completely herself.
She follows the tower’s instructions to the letter. She ignores the lame man, the floating corpses, and the desperate weaving women. She ignores her ego drives to aid and assist. She allows Charon to extract a coin from her mouth with his dirty fingers and she tosses honey cakes to the terrifying three headed dog Cerberus, who guards the gaits of Hell. She is careful to accept no nourishment while in the underworld. She humbly procures the box of beauty from Persephone and retraces her steps back past Cerberus, across the river Styx and into the light of day.
It is then, her final task completed with full consciousness, that she causes her own death.
"When Psyches was returned from hell, to the light of the world, she was ravished with great desire, saying, Am not I a fool, that knowing that I carry here the divine beauty, will not take a little thereof to garnish my face, to please my love with all? And by and by she opened the box where she could perceive no beauty nor any thing else, save only an infernal and deadly sleep, which immediately invaded all her members as soon as the box was uncovered, in such sort that she fell down upon the ground, and lay there as a sleeping corps."
As Psyche slips into a deadly coma, Eros finally awakens from his brood. He sneaks out of the tower room in his mother’s palace, finds his wings and flies straight to Psyche.
It appears that the labours of Psyche have simultaneously transformed Eros as well.
"Eros, the fiery flighty spirit who came and went secretly and refused to be seen in the light, has acquired at least the substance of a healed wound. The Eros she knows now is…produced by the Soul’s contemplation of the Divine Mind; it is the medium through which she can finally be present to "that other loveliness". He is the carrier of divine beauty which must, to become united with psyche and soma, be touched by the pain of earthly life.
Eros awakens Psyche with a prick from one of his arrows, returns the beauty to its box and gently chastises his wife.
"O wretched captive, behold thou were well nigh perished again, with the overmuch curiosity: well, go thou, and do thy message to my Mother, and in the mean season, I will provide for all things accordingly."
Obviously, his vial anger and contempt for Psyche’s behaviour has lost its edge. What Eros provided for was Psyche’s immortality, bestowed by Zeus and blessed, finally, by Aphrodite. The wedding banquet on Mt. Olympus was attended by all the gods and goddesses, greater and lesser, demonstrating their universal admiration and acknowledgement of the union.
Not long after, a divine child was born to Psyche and Eros. The name they gave her was Pleasure.
The full translated version of the Tale of Psyche and Eros from The Golden Ass may be found in the appendix. Much pleasure and meaning may be gained from its reading and contemplation in full. As Harriet Eisman shares in her closing paragraph of That other Loveliness:
In pursuing it (Eros), we pursue our greatest desire. Yet, after all, we live in
ignorance of how it will approach. We can only listen, and pray, for the sounds of Eros’ soft, quivering wings."

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Cat -

Thank you for posting those

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Cat~
Thanks for posting this!Once again you come thru for us

And to lioneye ~ Thanks for asking about this! I have enjoyed it very much

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You're welcome.
Got some more for you all.....coming up next post
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Ohhhhh, I have Eros in Scorpio it conjuncts my Jupiter (Does that mean I am lucky in love and sex???) ....hmmmmm, My Psyche is in Aquarius.

Hey, did you know there was a star (asteroid) named Pocahontas???? Mine is in Leo trining my Sun. LOL...

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Eros through the Water Signs of the Zodiac

The twelve signs of the zodiac are divided up into four elements: fire, earth, air and water. Each element represents a particular orientation, which the signs belonging to it share. These elements may be compared with Jung’s personality types of intuition, sensation, thinking and feeling respectively. Exploring the mythology of Eros in association with the signs can further our understanding of this mysterious god of love.
The ties that bind Eros to Aphrodite resemble the umbilical ties of the first of the water signs, Cancer. This is the life giving and life destroying link that connects the participants in an eternal cycle of creative inspiration, production and withdrawal reminiscent of the Moon, of Mother and of the realm of feelings and creative expression. Joseph Campbell elaborates:
"(Eros) is linked definitely and firmly to Aphrodite as her child…but as our whole survey of the prehistory of the Aegan has shown, the goddess Aphrodite and her son are exactly the great cosmic mother and her son, the ever dying, ever-living god."
Campbell points out that the variety of myths of Eros’s parentage confirm this background. From Chaos to Aphrodite, they represent transformations of the same mythology, pointing unanimously to the mother goddesses and their lover-sons: Atargatis and Ichthys, Ishtar and Tammuz, Kybele and Attis. The young male deities were indestructibly bonded to their mothers as servants-lovers-sons. Inevitably, they were destroyed by their mother goddesses in a cycle of birth, fruition, death and rebirth. Thus they were worshipped as eternally dying and resuscitate gods.
Eros, in association with Aphrodite, takes the role of zealous servant and attentive companion. He travels with her, and assists her in various tasks, from brushing her lustrous hair to making the arrangements necessary for Helen of Troy to fall in love with Paris, precipitating the Trojan War. His intended part in the tale of Psyche and Eros was to assist his mother’s craving for revenge:
"I pray thee my dear child, by motherly bond of love, by the sweet wounds of thy piercing darts, by the pleasant heat of thy fire, revenge the injury which is done to thy mother by the false and disobedient beauty of a mortal maiden, and I pray thee, that without delay she may fall in love with the most miserable creature living, the most poor, the most crooked, and the most vile, that there may be."
Aphrodite, sovereign mistress or not, had no immunity to the darts of Eros herself though. She complains bitterly to him in The Golden Ass about this and other transgressions.
"Is this an honest thing…is this reason, that thou hats violated and broken the commandment of thy mother and sovereign mistress: and whereas thou
shouldst have vexed my enemy with loathsome love, thou hats done otherwise?…Thou hats often offended thy ancients, and especially me that am thy mother, thou hats pierced me with thy darts…"
Aphrodite then points out that she is not too old to have another son, and he would certainly turn out better than the first one, who’s upbringing has been a complete disaster!
Eros is also associated with the creative aspect of the sign of Cancer. To experience the passion of Eros is in part a poetic revelation that may translate into a masterpiece of dance, art, literature or music. However, to experience the erotic transformation symbolised by second water sign Scorpio, this tie with mother, this umbilical link, must be broken.
The separation from the mother, although painful and agonising, leads to the awakening of the individual and the capacity to experience the erotic. Richard Idemon makes clear the importance of this separation as prerequisite to union.
The desires for transformation, sexual intensity, and the power to create change through merging, all have erotic and Scorpio-like overtones. The fully awakened Eros might be difficult to distinguish from an activated Pluto in this context, except that the effects are much more personal. If, on the other hand, Eros is denied or repressed, he becomes the uninvited god, like the thirteenth fairy in Briar Rose. Not a happy guest.
The consequences to such a rejection can be harsh. The refusal of a god, or archetypal image, equates with the refusal of a part of the unconscious life. This paves the way for fate to come and drag us down into the underworld where we are forced into experiencing passion, although probably in an unpleasant way. Here again Eros feels like he wears a Scorpio robe, and may be exhibiting his relationship to the Erinyes as dispenser of fate.
Eros’s fate with his Mother also links him firmly to the third water sign of Pisces. One myth of the origin of the constellation of Pisces tells the tale of Eros and Aphrodite turning themselves into fishes and swimming up the Nile to escape the monster Typhon.
Typhon was said to be born from the elder deities Gaia (Mother Earth) and Tartarus. Although the youngest of Gaia’s offspring, Typhon was by far the deadliest and the largest monster ever conceived. He had legs of coiled serpents and arms that spread across the skies from horizon to horizon. When he walked upright, his head touched the stars. Typhon spat giant boulders and blotted out the sun with his wings. He was a big and scary guy.
Sensibly, the Olympians were reticent to fight him. They fled to Egypt and hid themselves by transforming into animals. Zeus changed himself into a ram, Dionysus a goat and Aphrodite and Eros disguised themselves as fish and swam up the Nile.
Typhon was eventually defeated by the combined efforts of Athene’s wisdom, Hermes’ and Pan’s guile and the awesome power of Zeus’s thunderbolts. Later, the image of two fishes tied together by their tales was placed in the heavens in honour of the Olympians escape from the mighty Typhon.
Much of the romantic longing, ecstatic love and tragic loss associated with Pisces and Neptune come to life in certain aspects of Eros and Aphrodite/Venus and certainly arise when there are aspects between these bodies. The state of being in love, the search for a soul mate and the madness of the divine other all mingle in the same cup. Perhaps it is Eros who pours the elixir while secretly shooting the odd dart. Pisces, however, is not the only duel sign linked to Eros.

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Eros and the Sign of the Twins
To complicate matters, one version of myth associates Eros with a Gemini like twin brother, Anteros. In this case, Aphrodite is called the mother of the twin loves. Where Eros is love, Anteros is love avenged or returned. This seems odd at first, a divergence away from the water element and into its opposite principle, air.
Yet Anteros symbolises a returned or opposite love. It is said that Eros pined with loneliness until Aphrodite gave him Anteros as a playmate. In this role, Anteros is the answer to love’s longing. He is also depicted as the one who punishes those who scorn love or do not return the love of others.
The story of Timagora and Meles reveals this theme. The young Athenian Meles rejects the love of his friend Timagoras. Meles mockingly tells the spurned lover to climb to the top of a cliff and throw himself off. Timagoras does so without question, showing his dedication. He dies instantly in the decent. When Meles realises what he has done, he is filled with guilt and regret. He then casts himself down the same cliff and also dies. Thus in some areas, Anteros is worshipped as the avenging spirit of Timagoras.
This mythic theme reveals characteristics of the Gemini twins. These two brothers can represent the heights of divine love to the pits of guilt, remorse and revenge. Perhaps because these qualities are so divergent, it was necessary to split them apart and view them as separate entities. As anyone aquatinted with experience of erotic love, the two are not separate at all but different expressions on the face of the same god.
Anteros
You ask why I have so much rage in the heart
And on a flexible neck an untamed head;
It is that I come from the race of Antée,
I return the darts against the victorious god.

Yes, I am that which inspires the Avenger,
He marked me on the face with his irritated lip;
Under the paleness of Abel, alas! Bloodstained,
Sometimes I have of Cain the relentless redness!
Jehovah! the last, overcome by your engineering,
Who, of the deepest of the hells, shouted: "O tyranny!"
It is my Bélus grandfather or my Dragon father...
They plunged me three times in the water of Cocyte,
And, protecting all alone my Amalecite mother,
I sow again with his feet the teeth of the old dragon.

The love and passion of Eros is by no means limited to the element of water.
Each sign, however, has it’s own mythic flavour, a costume of varying size a hue.
Aries, like the god of war, has a passion to assert his will.
Taurus, like Venus, may have the classical passion towards sensual pleasure.
Gemini, messenger of the gods, has a passion for communication and knowledge.
Cancer’s passion lies in emotional ties and feelings.
Leo has the passion and loyalty of the lion heart.
Virgo has a distinct passion for selection and discrimination.
Libra has passion for beauty, balance and refinement.
Scorpio has passion for intensity and merging.
Sagittarius has boundless passion for adventure and the unknown.
Capricorn has passion for perfection and successful accomplishment.
Aquarius has passion for freedom and ideals.
Pisces’ passion often mingles with a longing for union with the divine.

All the planets and signs in the astrological chart are important when it comes to understanding love. Each has something to offer and something secret to reveal. Focusing on Eros, discovering the sign, house position and aspect of this celestial body, can shed even greater light on our personal and unique experiences of love in all its many forms. Ignoring this image is like turning away from a part of our own soul.

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I'll post some more info on Eros later.
Eros in each sign and also in each house.
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How do you find out where your euros are?
I looked at my chart on astro and didn't see anything??

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Hi 1Scorp
On the page that you can choose different chart types etc....
Bottom left of that page gives you the option to type in numbers re the different asteriods. Just type in 433 (that's the number for Eros).
Let me know if you still can't find it and I'll take a look for you.
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Eros in the Signs of the Zodiac

The asteroids or ‘minor planets’ are by no means minor in their power of expression.
--Demetra George & Douglas Bloch

The planets by sign describe HOW they will orient themselves in the chart. It is the costume they wear, the approach they take, the way they express. It also gives an indication of which other archetypal figures they will like to keep in their company. This holds true for all the planets, including the asteroid Eros.
For example, Eros in a fire sign might be friends with the exuberant Jupiter in Leo but have discomfort with the sometimes cautious and testy Mercury in Cancer. In the element of earth, he might associate easily with the voluptuous Moon in Taurus, yet clash with the sometimes inaccessibly aloof Sun in Aquarius.
Sometimes planets with natural affinity find themselves estranges as when Venus is in Pisces, Eros in Sagittarius and Moon in Virgo. Then it seems we are at internal odds and unable get what we want without some part of ourselves giving up a vital need.
By studying the placements of Eros by sign, we can better integrate the diverse needs and drives of this body. In an archetypal sense, the signs have a distinct way of relating to both inner and outer experiences and acknowledging those distinctions is a step towards becoming more complete.
Richard Idemon offered the astrological community great insight in his lectures on the orientation of the signs. When speaking about the various approaches or attitude the signs exhibit towards a given goal or function, Idemon shared his keen perceptions into the deeper nature of the zodiac. This orientation through the archetypes of the signs also helps interpret how planets operate in synastry, progression, composite, transit and progression.
The following delineations of Eros provide an easy reference for quick overviews and initial understanding. (This represents the first few paragraph of each delineation from the book, ASTEROID 433 EROS: THE ASTROLOGY OF LOVE)

Eros in Aries
Eros' forms are many and sometimes terrible, and in full strength he comes to us winged and gleaming and muscled like an athlete, with a fury and will that overpower our own and drive us before him, as would a storm.
--Peter Marin

Eros in Aries says, "Play with me, right here and right now!" In this sign, Eros wants action, competition, confrontation and of course, he wants to win! Eros in Aries can make a game of love complete with points to score and visiting teams to defeat! The more impossible the relationship, the more ardent he becomes.
As the first of the FIRE signs, he spends and consumes tremendous amounts of energy in the pursuit and capture of his quarry. All this fiery rabidity makes Eros in Aries a very active and perpetually busy lover. Eros here, whether in the chart of a male or female, can exhibit traditional romantic behaviour not unlike a knight of old. He is robust, gallant and ever dashing off to slay dragons or rescue damsels, or helpless men, in distress.


Eros in Taurus
This way, my love, this way, come here and haste to rest the whole night in my arms. I worship your lovely curly hair; I am consumed with ardent desire. Oh! Eros, in thy mercy, compel him to my bed.
--Aristophanes

Eros in Taurus says "Hold me, touch me, kiss me, take me." Here Eros has little interest in the aggressive ardency of Aries. Taurus is not responsive to getting up at 6 a.m. to do fifty laps at the pool and he would rather not have to compete with anyone to get what he wants. Eros has a different orientation in this sign, namely, an orientation towards pleasure. That means pure and natural, undiluted personal and sensual gratification.
This pleasure-seeking eye of the bull is ever on the niceties of sensuality whether they be in the dinning room, on the massage table or in a king size bed. He finds joy in tangible pursuits that revolve around making the body feel good as well as the pleasure of acquisition. Taurus can also become ferociously possessive of those pleasures in an extremely dogmatic way.


Eros in Gemini
…and the most beautiful words ever spoken, I have not yet said to you.
--Nazim Hikmet

Eros in Gemini says, "If you want me, talk to me!" Here Eros thrives on the interaction of ideas, and the intellectual stimulation found in sharing observations, data and little understood facts. He likes it known how well he comprehends a subject and how much he could teach about it. Eros in Gemini wants to hear the words, or receive little cards with messages of love, much more than he wants to get a box of chocolates or even a massage!
Gemini governs the realm of the mind, the known universe, its facts and fancies. When Eros dresses in this outfit, he seeks intimacy first through intellectual rapport and that usually means talking. The mere act of communication can stimulate this position of Eros into desires for deeper intimacy and union, provided one listens to the discourse. The beloved’s inattention to detail or loss of concentration on the subject kills a genuine pursuit faster here than in any other sign.
Curiosity about how things work, why people behave in a certain way, or where some tradition began all contribute to the stimulating mental atmosphere where Eros in Gemini likes to live. He uses knowledge as a lure, his mind as bait and his wit as reward. He also uses these intellectual instruments as a bastion against the pain and suffering of the emotional world.
The first of the AIR signs, Eros in Gemini has a sense of mental objectivity and a distinct need for space. Although drawn irrefutably to the depths of intimacy by the nature of Eros itself, in this sign he may at times do more talking or reading about emotional closeness than going out and experiencing it.


Eros in Cancer
A mean young man meets a witch, who says she will be his lover forever if he brings her the heart of his mother. He runs home, kills his mother and cuts out her heart.
As he is running back through the forest, he trips and falls, dropping the heart. In a concerned tone, the heart says to him, "Son, did you hurt yourself?"
--Old Jewish Parabl

Eros in Cancer says, "share your joy and pain with me". In this sign, Eros experiences a certain measure of affinity and ease. Here the boundaries can dissolve into a space of intimate rapport where the feelings, emotions, fears, pains and sorrows of two people merge and mingle into one. In cancer, Eros does not hesitate at the threshold of erotic intimacy. Once inside, he simply never wants to leave.
Eros in Cancer longs to be wanted and he craves the significant other’s attention and deep need for attachment. Nurturing, sustaining and mothering all arise with this archetype creating a potent link that can enhance life as well as strangle it to death. It is the image of the umbilical cord that offers succour but may also become toxic if it is not severed at the necessary time.


Eros in Leo
Call me a she-lion, then, if you like and Scylla, dweller on the Tuscan cliff. For I have touched your heart in the vital spot.
--Euripides

Eros in Leo says, "watch me, follow me, worship me". The operant word in this phrase is me. Eros in Leo is similar to his fiery counterpart Aries in the desire for action although here Leo’s need diverges in its tremendous longing for attention and adoration. Where Aries likes a playmate and wants, of course, to be first, Leo needs the devotional attention and unfailing love of those who touch his life. Unfortunately, this is often just what he feels is missing.
Eros in this position has a strong desire to feel special, unique and distinctive. The second of the FIRE signs, Eros in Leo requires energy and returns it in playful abundance as well. He dazzles in the spotlight of admiration and gives priority to the creative, artistic side of life.


Eros in Virgo
..how can I find a path towards my soul's real nature that begins right here where I am shipwrecked, rather than in pious hopes for a perfect life?
--Harriet Eisman

Eros in Virgo says, "hold me, touch me, buy me things, and explain to me why you are doing it." This second of the EARTH signs has all the tangible desires of Taurus with the added propensity to analyse intentions and rate them on a scale of one to ten. These discriminating qualities of Virgo can come to the fore with a check list approach to romantic love.
Virgo has tremendous perceptions and is not a sign to hesitate using them on the beloved. Sometimes this can equate with judgements and criticism, real wet blankets for erotic experiences. This perceptiveness can also turn inward were it manifests as a self-criticism, an equally damaging trait. An inclination to carry out a running commentary on the attributes and failings of any given moment may mingle with passion like oil and water.
Eros in Virgo does have a very lusty and luscious desire nature that shares an affinity with epithemia. The material elements of life appraise high on the scale of importance and that means physical contact, physical nurturing and physical pleasure. They can abide a great deal of touching, tasting and sensing too. Eros here is not afraid to get close and stay close, if the special other turns out to be good enough.


Eros in Libra
Eros, god of love, distilling liquid desire down upon the eyes, bringing sweet pleasure to the souls of those against whom you make war, never to me may you show yourself to my hurt nor ever come but in due measure and harmony.

Eros in Libra says, "share the elegant beauty of life with me!" This Eros wants above all to participate with a significant other in many splendid activities. Libra is the sign of personal one-to-one relationships and Eros here has all the longings for the excellence and refinement that exemplify Libra. In this position, life needs to unfold pleasantly and in the company of a beloved other.
Being the second of the AIR signs, Eros in Libra has the ability to objectify life, and enjoys the communication of ideas. Talking, interpreting, counselling and the giving and receiving of feedback all rate high on the list of Libra’s good times. This is a refined position for Eros, a sign that inherently honours the social niceties of the times and enjoys the sophistication of good manners and pleasant exchange. Unless, of course, they are flipping into their antagonistic side. Then, from Libra erupts the disputing debater or Devil’s advocate par excellent!


Eros in Scorpio
Come to me, and I shall be the sun round which you are locked in orbit,
and my rays shall lay bare the secrets you keep from each other, and I,
who possess charms and powers of which you have no inkling, shall
control and possess and destroy you!"
-- Anne Rice The Vampire Arman

Eros in Scorpio says, "merge with me in the searing furnace of the souls so that together we may be transformed." Eros in Scorpio speaks bluntly. His desires are potent, ardent and fixed and often involve a great deal of intense intimacy that can make the light-hearted falter. Eros in this sign is interested in a very personal and erotic form of relating that has no qualms about ripping off the surface scab of social superficiality to expose the true nature of ones soul beneath. They generally do not hold back.
Eros here seeks, often through intense and possibly taboo sexual experiences, the gift of merging, union and transformation. This is the break on through to the other side that Jim Morrison echoed. He invites you to the threshold and if you enter, there is no turning back. You will transform or perish, or both.
Eros here may be in the sign of his greatest affinity. The second WATER sign, Scorpio relates well to the powerful hungers exhibited by Eros and there is little to modify or temper. Scorpio is not afraid to get too close. He does not shun intimacy, physical or otherwise. He is not nervous about bodily functions, losing his freedom, sharing his emotions or surrendering his mind. He just plain is not nervous or afraid of much, except maybe losing control.


Eros in Sagittarius
Imagine, if you can, silver leaves waving above a pool of gold filled with singing fishes. Twin moons in an alien sky. If you like, I'll show them to you and they will be, I promise you, the dullest part of the journey. Come with me and I will show you sights that you have never dreamed of. Or stay behind, and regret it until your dying day...
--William Hartnell as Doctor Who

Eros in Sagittarius says, "expand my horizons and explore the unknown with me!" This placement of Eros needs widespread goals for the future and the space, energy and enthusiasm to live them out. Spontaneous, exuberant, adventurous and fickle, Eros here prefers a lively and challenging experience with the beloved, one that will take him to the limitless corners of the universe. If someone is going to be with Eros in Sagittarius, they best get ready to soar.
This third FIRE sign has enormous sexual energy and will become bored if the relationship does not develop into broader and richer potentials, or offer new horizons. Travel is his watchword and that does not necessarily mean physically jumping on a plane and heading for a distant culture. The travel Sagittarius has in mind involves the exploration of any previously unknown realm. This includes symbolic journeys through intellectual concepts, philosophical ideas, spiritual beliefs and artistic creations.


Eros in Capricorn
Do you see how unclothed Love smiles and looks so gentle? He has no torches, nor bows which he could bend. But in one of his hands he bears flowers, in the other a fish. That's to say he sets the law on land and sea.
--Alciato

Eros in Capricorn says, "touch me, buy me things, and balance the books if you think you are qualified". This position of Eros has powerful concepts about what is good and what is good enough. There is a need for competence and capability that the earthy sign of Taurus would never consider important. Eros in Capricorn is looking for a type of tangible perfection in the other or failing that, a certificate of completion at least.
Capricorn may sublimate its earthy and very ardent desires for sensual contact and intimacy through the ever-present demands of work. Productivity, attainment, and a feeling of self-sufficiency are vital qualities for Capricorn and they like to see them in the partner as well as themselves.
The third of the EARTH signs, Eros in Capricorn has a powerful need to connect in a physical sense and may also have equally powerful reservations, fears and objections to intimacy. Caution is the watchword. This sign is acknowledged as one of the most difficult to get to know. They do not open up easily and they may not stay open long.
The paradox is that Capricorn is extremely sensual and sexual in a very earthy, potent, Pan-like way. Its symbol is half goat after all and the implication of fertility and sexuality imbibe the image. They have all the desires of Taurus lounging side by side with their deep well of fear.


Eros in Aquarius
…I have never seen nor heard your name without a shiver half of delight, half of anxiety….
--Edgar Allan Poe

Eros in Aquarius says, "surprise me, shock me, amazement me!" This position of Eros carries a high voltage charge with stimulating encounters that need a lot of air space to conduct electromagnetic charms. Eros in Aquarius desires the weird, the wonderful and the unusual. He thrives on the unexpected and luxuriates in situations that make the more traditional signs squirm with embarrassment.
Eros in the sign of the Water Bearer has a disposition bordering on the bizarre. He crosses boundaries as if they did not exist and skips the lines of gender and protocol like a child playing hopscotch. If it is unusual and invigorating, he is probably interested.
The third of the AIR signs, Eros in Aquarius gets bored with routine and needs intriguing conversation and somewhat unconventional themes to keep his interest aroused. He also needs a lot of freedom.


Eros in Pisces
Held fast in a faience of sea changes
While waves queue offshore in glittering strings;
Till love’s continuum rearranges,
The persevering sea harbours all things.
--E.F. Mosher

Eros in Pisces says, "merge into the depths with me"! Here Eros wants to lose all sense of where his being ends and another begins. Eros in Pisces desires a return to paradise, a drink from the Holy Grail and union with the divine. He is willing to give up his own identity, allowing it to melt and merge with the beloved until they are no longer distinct but part of a greater whole. This is the state of the mystic and the universe of the quantum physicist. It is the persistent longing of Pisces and the dreaded fear of almost every other sign. Eros here could be in its exaltation, the affinity is that great.
This position of Eros, the third of the WATER signs, represents the dissolving of the self into the other and all the pain, longing, suffering and ecstasy that process may involve. It also embraces the mysterious sense of the ineffable, something seldom glimpsed for long in any relationship. It suggests the beauty and creativity seen only through the lives of lovers who have touched each other’s spirits. It is indeed a big call for the average relationship to achieve.

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So where's your Eros??????

Mine's in ...Aries
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PS: AND it's in my 8th house

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Eek!! Mine's in Scorpio as is Psyche... almost perfectly conjunct @12.50'53 & 12.09'48.

Combined with my loaded Leo 8th house, I'm scared of MYSELF sometimes...
(eek...hold me.)

BTW, both are conjunct NEPTUNE in Scorpio in the 12th house.

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Thank-ya Cat!

I found it. Mines in Libra. Also, what would be the physche? Or is that the same as the euro? I'm sorry... I'm just a bit confused.

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No Psyche is different to Eros. To find where that is I think you need to put in number 16 in the astro chart.
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Mines in Cancer in the 12th

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Cuuute.
My Eros is hanging out right around my Venus & Chiron in my 7th.
Venus - 7 Tau 4'
Eros - 8 Taur 46'
Chiron- 10 Tau 30'
(My Psyche is unaspected @ 2 Aries in the 5th.)

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Eros in the Houses

Eros brings beauty, meaning and divinity into our lives. It comes to us through a very particular epiphany, a passionate inspiration present in a particular lover, teacher, melody, or landscape. We long to follow it always. But this is not the whole story. For Eros also brings us obsessions, cruelty, abandonment, and betrayal. It may come through anguish"
--Harriet Eisman

The asteroid Eros, like any planet in the astrological chart, represents a basic human need, drive or impulse. As Mars symbolises the drive or urge towards assertiveness, action and direction, Eros symbolises the urge towards erotic love and the transformations offered by this experience. The PLANETS represent the nature of an inherent impelling force in us, as well as a piece of our own soul, and Eros’s impulsion is towards union of a particular kind.
The SIGNS indicates how the needs and drives of the planets will express. Just as Mars in Leo may have a dramatic flare and fixedness to its drive to take action, so Eros in Leo would have a flamboyant spark in its approach to erotic love. The signs describe the way a need functions.
The HOUSES in turn represent areas of life, inner and outer. They symbolise the environment where the need or drive is acting out. The ruler on the house cups and the sign or signs contained in the house suggest the climate found in that environment. Any planets residing in a given house indicates that the needs and drives implied by them tend to operate strongly in that area of life. Entering or doing that area of life will evoke the needs and drives of the planets found there. We meet those planets, and the archetypal characters they symbolise, in that area of life.
Where Eros is by house indicates the environment, people or experiences that the god of love affiliates with. Howard Sasportas, in his book The Twelve Houses, states:
Any planet or sign in a house always suggests the most natural way to unfold the life plan in the area of life the house represents.
The system of derivative houses may also help elucidate experiences linked with the Eros house positions and is applied to the following cookbook descriptions. The derivative approach is controversial: some astrologers use it with impunity; other authors feel it is only useful in Horary charts. As with the house systems, each individual must experiment and use what they find works best.
The following cookbook style interpretation of Eros through the houses focus mainly on natal positions although they operate for positions by transit or progression as well. A much more detailed working of Eros through the houses and by transit and progression can be studied in the soon to be released text: Asteroid 433 Eros: The Astrology of Love


Eros in the First House
And as concerning reality the impression we get of it is not the same as the perception.
--Aristotle

When Eros resides in the first house of the natal chart, it gains additional significance. This is especially true if it is found within ten degrees either side of the Ascendant. Here Eros takes on first house importance adding his flavour to the sign or signs and any other planets found there.
In this position, Eros contributes towards the general approach to life. It may indicate how plans are initiated, action taken or dilemmas worked out. It may not mean that we have an erotic approach to initiation, but that we tend to encounter the erotic when taking action or presenting ourselves to the world.


Eros in the Second
May I ask whether you inherited most of your possessions or acquired them yourself?
--Plato

The second house traditionally rules money, values, resources and innate capabilities. It has a lot to do with valuing our self as a unique individual and can give indications of tangible longings, desires and aspirations.
People with Eros in the second house may value the erotic union as a resource or reserve. An erotic manner may reside with them comfortably like an inborn perception of what they are worth, what they deem estimable. This may actualise as a subtle undertone in some, or a brash and even overbearing urgency in others.


Eros in the Third House
I'm skilled at introducing new ideas every time out, each one different from the other and all of them good.
--Aristophanes

The third house traditionally deals with ideas, communication, learning, short journeys and siblings. It describes the early environment and local community, left brain activity or the rational mind, and our attitude to leaning and knowledge in general. If consciousness is, as Richard Idemon used to say, "what we think and what we think we think," the third house is the arena of that consciousness. It is the way in which we think we perceive the environment.
When Eros resides in the third house, communication itself can become an erotic experience. The written and expressed word, the transmission of information and the act of learning or teaching may all create an experience of erotic transformation for those involved. These can be people who really enjoy writing letters, keeping a diary or journal or getting up and making a speech.


Eros in the Fourth House
Now after my long day's labour sloping towards an evening of repose, has relaxed my energies by suggesting the charms of family life.
--Cicero

The forth house is the domain of the family, emotional security and sense of belonging at the very roots of our being. Astrologer Joanne Wickenburg says, if the Ascendant is WHO you are, the IC, and subsequent fourth house, is WHAT you are. Often it also represents what we like to hide from others.
This house symbolises the external home, the family emotional inheritance, a parent, domestic affairs and the country of origin. When Eros is found in this house the erotic links closely together with experiences of home and family. Eros loves to hide in the fourth house and there may be a secretive approach to erotic love.


Eros in the Fifth House
and those who devote themselves to music and letters and to the various contests, some by exhibiting their strength and others their artistic skill, win for themselves greater honour.
--Isocrates

The fifth house is the traditional residence of entertainment. It encompasses the playful heart, the creative spirit and romantic pleasures. It is the house of the inner child and the outer speculator, the actual children and the latent rock star in everyone.
The fifth house has to do with self-expression and that includes offspring, artwork, novels, and romances because they all activate the heart and engender feelings of uniqueness that makes us feel special. That is, when everything is going smoothly. These areas of life also put us in a place of utmost vulnerability not just to the art critic and the gene pool but to those experiencing the inner child. The fifth house rules speculation because we risk the child-like and creative qualities in the harsh reality of potential judgement and condemnation. There is no guarantee how we will measure up.


Eros in the Sixth
In constructing a homestead, we have to provide for the stock, which it is to shelter and for its health and well being.
--Aristotle

The sixth house traditionally represents daily routine, work and employment, health of the body and health services, small domestic pets, service in general, tools and gadgets. The common thread here includes the need to establish ritual and routine, through organisation, commitment and concern, in the every day life. It also describes the ways and means we accomplish and perfect those daily routine tasks.
When Eros is found in the house of skill development, service, health and daily routine, one may have some finely tuned proficiency when it comes to passionate and romantic love. They may see the body as a vessel that provides for the delights and erotic passions of the beloved and be inclined to perfect their ability to give and receive those delights. They may find the merging and transformation an erotic union offers desirable on a daily basis!


Eros in the Seventh House
When marriage is on equal terms, in my opinion it is no cause for dread; so never may the love of the mightier gods cast on me its irresistible glance.
--Aeschylus

The seventh house traditionally represents personal one-to-one relationships including marriage, business partnerships, counselors and clients, long-term unions, or even open adversaries that engage in on going debate. In this house, commitment reigns although the stage often hosts more than a dance for two.
Eros in the seventh prefers close partnerships to include erotic, transformational unions of the most powerful kind. The very nature of erotic love, however, suggests the stability, commitment and endurance of the seventh house (a divorced relationship involving children can last a lifetime) contradicts the risk taking, changeable nature of Eros. Enter the triangle.


Eros in the Eighth House
how does one describe a trip to the underworld?
--Homer

The eighth house traditionally rules sex, death and taxes, and their transformational effects. It also pertains to depth analysis, research and occult knowledge. The eighth house rules things of mystery, intrigue and intensity. The thread that binds the eighth house scenery together consists of elements in life that require us to make a leap of faith, to take a risk and discover the unknown within. There are no guarantees in the eighth and no way to be sure that once we make a commitment to intimacy, a belief system or a political party, that the implicit trust will be honoured.
Eros in the eighth suggests an affinity with the purpose of the house: to take risks, to offer up something precious, to feel to the depths of the soul and to hope for transformation in return. Those with Eros in this house have an increased desire to experience the erotic on a very deep level of their existence. They may also have a highly increased fear around doing so. The two can go hand in hand.


Eros in the Ninth House
For am I now seeking the favour of men, or of God?
--St. Paul

The ninth house traditionally rules spiritual beliefs, long journeys, higher education, foreign cultures, ceremonies and rituals, publishing and clergymen. These categories all have the common effect of exposing us to areas of mind, body or spirit, that have never been experienced before. Thus, Dennis Elwell described the ninth house as an exploration into the unknown.
When Eros falls in the ninth house, discovery of new and previously incomprehensible concepts, peoples or vistas ignite feelings of passionate wonder and intrigue. This Eros is aroused by new information, strange landscapes and mysterious cultures. The act of gaining this information can be an erotic experience in itself.


Eros in the Tenth House
He was, therefore, elated over his fame and had recourse to many other far more ambitious undertakings, which would serve to increase the dominant position of his native state.
--Siculus

The Midheaven (MC) and the corresponding tenth house traditionally denotes the career, mission or profession, one of the parents, and the social image and known reputation. Howard Sasportas said that the qualities of any sign or planet in the tenth house correspond to what is most visible and accessible to others. It is what stands out.
The tenth house indicates how others perceive us and those with Eros here want the world to know they are passionate, erotic, potent and charismatic. The way they dress, speak and move may all have a subtle undertone of Eros. Some people with this placement may even make a career out of studying, teaching or living out the erotic and transformational side of life. Certainly, it would be of major importance for them to express, especially if early childhood experiences lead to the denial and repression of the god of love.


Eros in the Eleventh House
They are each, then, others of each other, in groups; for they cannot be so one at a time..
--Plato

The eleventh house is traditionally associated with groups, hopes and wishes, membership in organisations, relationships to friends and advisors and goals for the future. It has been tagged as the desire to be more than what we already are, as happens when joined to a group or association. It is also the desire to be everything we can possibly be, as reflected in what we wish and hope for. This house represents a stretching beyond the individual identity that pushes out into the lager world as a whole.
When Eros is found in the eleventh house, friendships, groups and goals take on a potent and possibly passionate quality. We may experience friends as triggers for erotic feelings, transformations or creative turning points. Whether a person with an eleventh house Eros passionately merges with a friend or that friendship inspires them to experience the erotic through another person matters little. The important point is that through friendship, the god of love awakens.


Eros in the Twelfth House
It is some solemn secret, surely, that you enshroud in mystery.
--Aeschylus

The twelfth house is a place of mystery. Isabel Hickey called it the house of drawn shades, a region where we must serve or suffer. Traditionally it rules secret enemies, institutions such as prisons, hospitals and asylums and other places of generalised pain and suffering, hidden activities, exile and seclusion.
Sometimes Eros here awakens through injury, suffering or confinement. The case of the doctor and patient, alcoholic and counsellor, or even bereaved brother and widow come to mind. There can even be an erotic relationship between criminal and the officer of the law, as in the archetypal relationship between the brilliant detective Sherlock Holmes and his equally genius archenemy, Professor Moriarty. These kinds of unions make short work of the traditionally acceptable and they may embody an extreme bitterness, yet their potential for transform is infinite. The very taboo and suffering quality seems to make them all the more potent.

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