posted June 12, 2003 01:24 PM              

I have read many Astrology books, but few books emphasize sufficiently the importance of aspects between one person's natal planets and the other person's Ascendant or Midheaven.

Since I first started to study Astrology, I have found many interesting aspects between my chart and those of my friends and love relations.
It is either my lovers Moon and my Ascendant or my Sun in their Ascendant.

Have any of you found the same aspects between comparisons?

Can anyone recommend a book with information about these aspects?

Thank you,

Mar y Sol

posted June 12, 2003 05:17 PM              

I have seen where an aspect to one or the other's Ascendant can change the overall picture of the relationship. The house location of each partner's Ascendant in the other's chart along with any aspects tells a great deal about the relationship.

as far as a book, you can't go too wrong with Sakoian and Acker's "The Astrology of Human Relationships".

posted June 12, 2003 10:05 PM              

What you said is very significant. In fact, the best types of relationships are formed when each person's Sun, Moon and ASC (but it can also be the MC) make harmonious aspects to one another----conjunct, parallel, trine or sextile. Aspects should be within 3 to 5 degrees of one another.

Look to your seventh house: any planets therein, the sign on the DSC, its ruler(s) and the close aspects it makes to other planets, and the sign(s) that the ruler(s) of the DSC is in. Also: the planet ruling the DSC or the sign in which the ruler(s) of the DSC is placed can simply be prominent, as well (that is, the planet's placement in the 1st, 4th, 7th or 10th house).

posted June 13, 2003 12:53 PM              

Hi Shaun, What aspect is a parallel?

Hi Heidi, When someone's Sun conjuncts the IC, I'd rather pay interest to the opposition to MH, it may reveal a pattern of this person holding power or authority over the other, it also implies past family ties (4th house).

Hi Cat and Lioneye, will trining with all angles happen in an equal house system?

Another important aspect that I like to look between a comparison is the placement of the ruling planets of Asc and MH in each other's charts. Many times these aspects indicate that the two people are likely to have a relationship of great importance and many times strong karmic ties with with each other.

Mar y Sol

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posted June 13, 2003 02:29 PM              

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posted June 13, 2003 03:07 PM              

My Sun is on Capricorn, my moon on Geminis...

I assume your Sun is in Scorp...

M & S

posted June 13, 2003 03:20 PM              

I am usually atracted to persons with strong characters, and then end up locking horns!!!
But the times I have had a relationship with a soft character person, I get bored and loose admiration and respect.

No, 1Scorp, it is a nice nick and says a lot about you....

M&S

posted June 14, 2003 12:38 AM              

Just to get back to Lioneye's question for a moment,

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If you have trining ascendants with someone, does that naturally mean you trine all the other angles too?

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...that could work if you were comparing two natal charts where the parties have squaring Ascendants, couldn't it, depending on how tight the orb is? Would that 'activate' all the angles in an Equal House chart synastry, or am I completely wrong because the rules of synastry and composite charts are based on entirely different calculations?

I also have the Sakoian and Acker book, and it's quite comprehensive. Since you have an interest in past life indicators, check out Martin Schulman's excellent series on karmic astrology. You'd have to check the TOC to see if IC/MC is emphasized in a particular volume, however. His "Karmic Relationships" only handles all major planetary aspects, not the angles, for example.

My partner's Sun, Part of Fortune and Ceres are conjunct my IC (his POF is 1Can24, my IC is 1Can34 and the others have various orbs), some conjunct my 4Can07 Moon west of the IC. His LeoVenus conjunct his Desc. trines my AriesAsc, and his AquaAsc. trines my GemVenus. Nothing much else going on at either MC or Descendant although we have a Saturn (mine) square Sun (his, conjunct my IC); it can't all be roses. We've been together about 6 years.

posted June 14, 2003 02:51 AM              

A parallel is when two or more planets are in the same degree north or south of the equator (contraparallels, on the other hand, are when planets are in the same degree but one is north and the other is south of the equator). This occurs in declination.

Declinations are the alignment of planets near the earth's equator as the earth spins on its axis, as opposed the earth revolving around the sun (which applies to planets in longitude). Parallels do not depend on the division of odd and even numbers within a 360 degree circle, as planets in longitude do (for example, 360/1=360: a conjunction, 360/2=180: an opposition, 360/3: a trine, 360/4=90: a square, 360/5=72: a quintile). Instead, parallels can occur at any time.
There are others (sextile, semisextile) and then there are the multiples----aspects occurring at multiples of 15° angles (for example: the quincunx or inconjunct, which occurs at 15*10, or [or 30*5]).

As the earth spins, its axis it titled at 23.5 degrees. Most planets in declination can occur within any degree from zero up to 23.5. However, there are times when a planet can surpass the 23.5 degree of the earth's axis. Astrologers term this as being an "out-of-bound" planet, where the characteristics of a certain planet supersede all others and takes on extraordinary abilities; when this happens a planet exerts a huge amount of energy. (In my chart Venus is one of [if not the] strongest planets in my chart: not only do I have Venus as an "out of bound" planet----in declination at 24°N16.05----, but it is conjunct my ASC less than a degree and it rules the sign intercepted in my fourth house, Libra. [Intercepted houses and the signs therein also draw upon energy from the planets that rule them] In addition, that planet is always involved in my progressed aspects, showing up in virtually all of the events that have occurred in my life.)

Northern parallels affect individuals in an outgoing or extroverted manner (as do planets in the upper part of the horoscope wheel). Southern parallels affect individuals in an ingoing or introverted manner (as do planets in the lower part of the horoscope wheel). Contraparallels affect both the individual and others.

Uranus is also another strong planet in my horoscope (which may be as strong as, or even stronger, than Venus). It is not "out of bound", but aspects almost every planet in my horoscope (including my ASC) except Mercury; this includes the three aspects it makes in declination----all contraparallel to: my Moon, Mars and Saturn.

There is a separate table for declinations, and they fill in the missing links that's not shown in the natal wheel. It shows the relationship(s) between two or more planets that may not aspect one another in longitude, but do so in declination. Declinations complement aspects in longitude and the planets in longitude should still be interpreted in the houses and signs that they are in, along with their aspects, but with the added emphasis and significance of their aspects in declination.

posted June 16, 2003 11:54 AM              

Hi Shaun,

Thanks for the explanantion, it is very interesting, I have never heard about it.
How do we know where the equator is on a chart?? and how do we know when planets are making a parallell aspect between them??
Uranus is also strong on my chart, as it is the regent of my Ascendant and it is placed on its own House.
I like the "Mary & Soul"....

posted June 28, 2003 08:10 PM              

To answer your first question-----"How do we know where the equator is on a chart??": The equator is the earth's center.