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jennafer
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posted June 16, 2003 12:30 AM
 
Hi, I have a question for you all. i do hope you can help me. What is the meaning of retrograde planets in a natal chart. I have several.1) My Mercury Is retro in pisces
2) Jupiter retro in Cancer
3) Both Pluto and Uranus are basically conjunt and retro in Virgo Does this change my chart?? and if so how? Best wishes
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proxieme
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posted June 16, 2003 01:04 AM
Heya Jennafer - Here's some links for ya:
http://astrology-numerology.com/retrograde.html http://www.astro-horoscopes.com/HTML/AskKevin/990223f.html http://astrology.about.com/library/weekly/aa090699.htm IP: Logged |
jennafer
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posted June 16, 2003 01:17 AM
Thanks heaps Proxieme,I forgot to add, I also have a retrograde saturn in pisces.....I am thinking I did some bad stuff in another life! hahaha IP: Logged |
Monk
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posted June 16, 2003 02:47 AM
Yeah... I got my planets retrograding, in my chart, Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune. So many of them - so its that a good thing? And what does which of these retrograding planets actually means now? IP: Logged |
jennafer
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posted June 16, 2003 03:37 AM
Hi Monk
I just remembered my retro neptune, Is my forgetfulness a result of my retrograde mercury and neptune???
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proxieme
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posted June 16, 2003 09:59 AM
No worries, Jen -
Almost every planet that can be retro in my chart is so.
My Sun and Moon aren't (b/c they can't be), nor are my Venus and Neptune.
Everything else is.
It's not that bad.IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted June 16, 2003 10:20 AM
Here's some of what Debbi Kempton-Smith says about natal retrogrades in _Secrets From a Stargazer's Notebook_:
If you see an Rx in your chart, the little planet isn't feeling well. It needs medicine. (...)
Backward is beautiful if you are willing to work at pulling out the real subtlety and depth of a retro planet in your chart. It shows an area in your character and upbringing where you'r a bit bottled up, so you act with caution and reticence. IN a refined character, reticence is often the wisest way of buying yourself extra time to choose which way to behave. People with retrograde planets usually have this subtlety and intelligence at their command, but they see more choices and more complexity in everyday situations. At one extreme is self-absorption and crippling shyness - at the other extreme is the wondrous ability to see the universe in a grain of sand. (...)
Mercury Rx shows a person who is more concerned with motive than plot. When these people go to the movies, they don't seem to be able to keep track of what side all the spies are on. They do notice the shaking hand of the man in the dark brown overcoat; he was supposed to be relaxed.
Everyday paper work is too much already for the Merc Rx gang; not their grateful sighs if you offer to make a couple of difficult phone calls for them or to help them with their tax forms. God created travel agents to ease their strain of dealing with the real world.
Different they are, but they ain't dumb. Dr. Jonas Salk, Ralph Nader, Arthur Miller, Mae West, Carl Sandburg, Frederic Chopin and Ben Franklin were all born with Merc Rx. It gives the gift of digging deep, whether in research or in creative invention. Some folks with this position are shy and even feel guilty about talking about how they feel. They do a considerable amount of their own thinking. (...)
Jupiter Rx people make their own luck; if they're born with privilege, they out searching for life's meaning. Some of them are lazy; some of them believe charity begins at home; some of them make their own religions and ethics. The best of them enjoy a unique overview, preferring to enjoy life viewed from the balcony; inner things matter to them, not the clothes on your back or the fine antiques in the window. (...)
Uranus Rx people are subtle in the way they undermine everyday routine with their conservative act - and it's an act. Peep through their keyholes and you'll see one with a teakettle on his head, dancing the hootchy-kootchy in blue and yellow knickerbockers. Never in public!
When kindly Neptune is retrograde, there is a rich inner life. Here is the man with the fantasy lover, or the they psychiatrists' joy - a patient with an endless stream of symbolic dreams. They're dreadful at concealing things or deceiving people - their hearts aren't in it, but they're shakey on reality testing. Let's hope they have a slew of commonsense friends and advisers. Neptune Rx never knows where the "line" begins and ends. It's great if you want to be a mystic, but not in the subway car. Too many vibes!
Look to your routines when you encounter a person with Pluto retro; run like hell unless you want your life to change. Then again, hang about...the change may do you good. Depends on what the Pluto Rx person wants - if they want you to marry them, all right, but they may be the sorts to send you off to war. Astrologer John McCormic studied the charts of the World War II generals: they *all* had Pluto Rx! Here the Rx can dull the senses; these people bring drastic change in your life, and they do not realize until much later what they have done, for good or ill. Often there is a noble dedication to serving people, without realizing how many wonderful differences they've made in people's lives.
All retrograde positions make you hesitant and at best refined.
It gives *class*, bustah!
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Jaqueline
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posted June 16, 2003 10:48 AM
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You don't have to believe in reincarnation to heed your astrological past life. Past lives can be a metaphor to help you better understand the meaning of retrograde. When you look to your past life for guidance, you can see the astrological lessons you need to focus on today. Past lives teach us to attain enlightenment by reviving the old ghosts of important occurrences that shaped our personality. You must master this plateau before you can evolve spiritually and holistically.Please keep in mind that Astrology is a guide, not a god. It is not a belief system but merely suggests methods by which we may live our lives to the fullest. Real Astrology is quite complex and assumptions are made based on intricate calculations. Putting too much weight on any single aspect of Astrology is fallacy. If you're looking to the stars for guidance, keep in mind that a proper reading, such as your own unique astrological chart, is the sum of all of its parts.
If the following planets appear in retrograde in your birth chart they are indicative of a monumental happening that once occurred in a past life. Astrology suggests that you pay attention to the lessons that you never learned in the past and that you strive toward achieving these goals in current pursuits. Each of the planets represents a different lesson to be learned.
Mercury Past Life: If Mercury retrograde is in your chart it's likely that you were once scorned for speaking out; perhaps your words incensed a riot. Mercury retrograde symbolizes that you are afraid to say the wrong thing and that you don't feel assured of your own intelligence.
To master this life lesson, you should believe in your intelligence and the power of your communication skills. Practice public speaking and celebrate the achievement of speaking to a group.
Venus Past Life: You have difficulty connecting with your soul mate and sustaining intimate relationships. You seek fulfillment from your partner but always come up short. In a past life, there were external forces beyond your control to keep you and your lover apart; thus, you never learned how to conduct a mature, productive relationship.
Try to focus on what you really want in a relationship and consider your choice of partners carefully. Also, look within yourself and ponder what you give back to your partner. Search for ways to improve the gifts you share.
Mars Past Life:
In your past life you may have been a soldier in the military and performed regrettable acts under someone else's orders. The anguish and the guilt this experience caused has left you crippled when it comes to dealing properly with your anger. Oftentimes you're not even sure where your anger comes from, but it is released hastily, harshly and inappropriately.
Relaxation and focusing techniques will help you get through this tangled web, as will some inward examination on the forces that rile your blood in this life.
Jupiter Past Life:
With Jupiter retrograde in your chart you were perhaps persecuted for your iconoclastic religious, ethical or spiritual beliefs. This experience was troubling and has left you feeling uneasy about embracing anything larger than yourself out of fear of exile once again. You are also fearful of showing anyone the light of your wisdom as you don't want to feel responsible for jeopardizing their social standing.
In this life you may have come full circle and snub religion or hold it in disdain. Your lack of spirituality or fickle relationship with spiritual beliefs may leave you feeling flat. Coming to terms with the things that make you happy and listening to your inner voice will set you free.
Saturn Past Life: If Saturn in retrograde appears in your birth chart you may always have had a difficult relationship with authority figures. You were once severely abused by those with power over you; perhaps you were enslaved or, conversely, you may once have been a belligerent and abusive ruler. Always looking for the easy way out, you have a long history of being immensely impatient.
The only way you will evolve to the next level is if you learn the virtues of patience, hard work and responsibility. You must also learn to respect the people you work with. Rather than continuing with a freewheeling lifestyle, focus instead on making plans and setting strategy.
Uranus Past Life:
In the lives before this one you were a rebel or a revolutionary. You've always been an anarchist fighting the establishment; if there's a battle, you're there. Though this lifestyle has its merits, it can be pushed to the extreme. Your revolutionary lifestyle has always interfered with or perhaps even destroyed many other facets of your life.
You must learn that giving an inch can sometimes gain you a mile. Keep fighting an honorable fight, but as long as Uranus is in retrograde in your chart you need to master the lesson of compromise and, occasionally, conformity. Take a moment to appreciate the useful aspects of structure. Save your battles only for the occasions when it is necessary, not simply for the sake of rebellion or for a good fight.
Neptune Past Life:
Extreme creativity and a penchant for escapism have always gotten the best of you if Neptune retrograde is in your chart. Perhaps you have a long history of alcohol or drug abuse or you are constantly trying to free yourself of ties with stark and unpleasant moments in reality.
Needless to say, you will not develop personally, spiritually or astrologically if you are dependent on substances outside yourself. To rise above these challenges you must take control of your creativity and push it toward its tremendous potential. Take a look outside yourself and your own issues; consider helping others as a way to get outside your own problems. Learn to appreciate the esoteric side of life.
Pluto Past Life:
With Pluto retrograde in your chart, you know what it means to be ostracized from the flock. At some point in your history you were forced to be the scapegoat for the community and you stood alone for bad deeds that perhaps you didn't even commit. You are familiar with being the apple of the public's eye one moment and then defending yourself tooth and nail the next.
This experience has left you very untrusting of the world around you. Remember that nothing in the universe occurs in a vacuum and that all bodies are connected. Therefore, if you don't trust in others you are also not trusting yourself. Believe in the people who have power over you, as they are sincerely looking out for your best interests.
Source : http://www.astrology.com/ Hope this helps  Love
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proxieme
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posted June 16, 2003 10:54 AM
ˇˇˇJakie!!!OMG!!! That was *incredible* information!!!
(!!!) (Have you gotten that I'm excited to read this yet?) (!!!) I have Merc, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, and Uranus all Rx, and those descriptions...
They're *exactly* what I've inexplicably felt to have happened. (!!!)
(!!!) And if you read them all, they hang together (esp. w/ taking into consideration the the feeling that I have). (!!!) IP: Logged |
Aphrodite
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posted June 16, 2003 10:55 AM
Hello Jackie!IP: Logged |
jennafer
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posted June 16, 2003 11:02 AM
Oh My GoshThankyou so much for everything you guy's have given me Hugs an Kisses to all IP: Logged |
jennafer
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posted June 16, 2003 11:20 AM
Well after reading all that I understand why I studied psychology, mainly to work myself out!
LOL
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mutablefire
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posted June 16, 2003 11:58 AM
I find transits affect me more than natal placements, particularly Mercury Retros.IP: Logged |
mutablefire
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posted June 16, 2003 12:00 PM
I did some bad stuff in a previous life too. I have Uranus and Pluto Retro in my natal chart. IP: Logged |
Mar y Sol
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posted June 16, 2003 12:19 PM
I also have Uranus and Pluto retro.
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lllog
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posted June 16, 2003 02:18 PM
It is my opinion that retros in Transits have much more of an impact on you than in your natal chart. I have a book by Donald Yott "Reograde Planets and Reincarnation" that talks about their meanings. Just my opinion
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Lunargirl
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posted June 17, 2003 01:28 PM
Hey mutablefire, you're in good company -- we've ALL done bad stuff in previous lives.Of course, nobody enjoyed themselves. Of course not. Mwahahaaa!  Lunargirl IP: Logged |
Jaqueline
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posted June 17, 2003 03:07 PM
Hi Aphrodite and Proxieme 
I'm glad you liked Proxie Love
Jakie
_________________________________________________ "We are not human beings living a spiritual experience...
We are spiritual beings living a human experience" IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted June 18, 2003 12:53 AM
Thanks, yes I have all of these including Mars retrograde except for Saturn. Boy my words sometimes cause riots even now. But then I have mercury opposite mars too. I think the Merc retrogade is offset a bit by being in Gemini in the 7th house. Mars yes, anger yes, pluto yes, but neptune even more.Uranus is also the planet of sexuality and this can cause some hesitation. Natasha IP: Logged |
Aphrodite
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posted June 18, 2003 04:36 PM
Martin Schulmann has a book on Retrogrades.IP: Logged |
Lotus Starchild
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posted June 19, 2003 06:18 PM
Thanks Jaqueline
for posting that list of retrogade meanings.
I found that really helpful and cool! IP: Logged |
anafaery
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posted June 21, 2003 07:40 PM
THANK YOU to both of you that posted info on Rx!!! i have needed to read an explanation that was written clearly to me. i especially was interested in the stargazer one because ive been told to get that book many times. i want it really bad... perhaps my lottery ticket today will be kind to me  yes im that poor that i cant afford a book, heh. the stargazer one though, did not say saturn Rx, was that an oversight? i have saturn Rx with merc and chiron. those are my only three... but im interested to know what the stargazer lady says about saturn. i found the past life explanations very helpful too. thank you so much to you both. IP: Logged |
teaologist
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posted December 12, 2006 01:15 PM
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posted December 12, 2006 01:41 PM
Hey teaologist, thanks for bumping this oldie – interesting stuff!! quote:
Jupiter Past Life:
With Jupiter retrograde in your chart you were perhaps persecuted for your iconoclastic religious, ethical or spiritual beliefs. This experience was troubling and has left you feeling uneasy about embracing anything larger than yourself out of fear of exile once again. You are also fearful of showing anyone the light of your wisdom as you don't want to feel responsible for jeopardizing their social standing.
In this life you may have come full circle and snub religion or hold it in disdain. Your lack of spirituality or fickle relationship with spiritual beliefs may leave you feeling flat. Coming to terms with the things that make you happy and listening to your inner voice will set you free.
Boy, did that hit home!! I have always felt an antipathy, hostility even, towards all organized religions. I have always been “spiritual” rather than “religious” and I’ve found my way over many years to my own personal beliefs and “faith”. I am normally reluctant to express those beliefs to others, and that reticence has made me curious since I usually converse easily on any topic.....
Funny, all this time I figured I was burned at the stake for *something* Zala IP: Logged |
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posted December 12, 2006 01:58 PM
I very much idetified with those!!! Good stuff!  (Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto - all in retrograde!!!) IP: Logged | |
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