posted July 07, 2003 11:46 AM              

Sad, but true.

posted July 07, 2003 04:11 PM            

Now, since you aren't going into detail about the break up, I am assuming there is a hell of a lot more to the story.

I am also involved with a Leo and have been for over two years. We have had our fights, he likes to lecture and I like to fling my arrows, but we always talk about it. A Leo male, even upset, will talk about things unless you have acted so incredibly crude or broke his heart.

So, maybe you could fill us in a little, but do be careful. NOT ALL LEO's are cold or heartless, they do have feelings and they get hurt just as easy as we do.

Lioneye is right. Young Leo's just learning about lust, love and dating can just be horrendous. That is why I never really dated Leo's when I was young. Well, that and mostly I fought with them.

posted July 07, 2003 04:17 PM              

Welcome to the website. Interesting first post, might I add.

Sorry to hear your Ex treated you disrespectfully. Anyhow, he did you a favor and you are rid of him for good. Death takes care of the rest

posted July 08, 2003 11:42 AM            

I looked up Leo Sun / Scorpio Moon last night in my "Book of Lovers". The first line stated:

"I never wanted Leo and Scorpio to meet, let alone inhabit the same body". It went on to discuss that the specific Leo / Scorpio combination produces an almost ruthless, controlling and somewhat kinky individual that will want power over their domain in almost a pathological manner.

Having a moon in Scorpio can be a hard thing to deal with and usually indicates problem with the mother, or an very traumatic beginning in life. Even a Sag with a Scorpio moon can be prone to bouts of major depression. My brother is a Sag with a Scorpio moon and although he is very lighthearted at times, he can also be extremely brooding and in his own little world. He and others with that lunar placement have a tendancy to hold onto hurts for an extremely long time.

Young fire signs (yes all of us when we are young) can be quite hurtful. For some reason we have a hard time dealing with our fire / passion and enthusiasm. I mean, think about how many times we were told "Hey, bring it down a notch" or how when we liked someone we would try to pursue them. I mean, BlueRoamer, you opened up this thread with a very forthright " I have dated every sign but Leo". Obviously, stating the fact that you have pursued or engaged in dating many of the other signs, some obviously more than once (I am theorizing on that point) thus proving that you are not a wallflower. Now, in the same respect are you going to base your entire opinion of Leo's on dating just one Leo? You obviously knew he was a cad when you tried to break up with him a few times and he wouldn't hear of it.

For some of my other younger fire sisters on this thread. I wouldn't recommend you date another fire sign until you are sure you can handle the repricussions. Fire signs take a long time to mature, especially those of us with the sun in the 4th house.

posted July 08, 2003 12:25 PM              

As for Leos, yes I have never been able to handle a Leo unless he has had a few hard knocks and has a high maturity level, usually with his own business and hobbies, in other words evolved into a self sufficient individual without an intense compulsive need for approval from every woman in the room. Mind you, Taurus and Aquarius can be this way too. Scorps are usually all out honest even though it hurts.

Scorp moons-well I have the moon in the 8th and yes I can be brutally honest but that Mars conjunct my ascendant makes me really honest with myself and sick of games right away. I simply can't stand them and scream if you want to share yourself with the world do it but don't expect to every come back here unless you have a chastity belt firmly on and you are ready to hand the key over to me. Of course I expect the same back.

posted July 08, 2003 01:07 PM            

Natasha,

I think that for those of us with sun in the 4th, well, we tend to be afraid of ourselves and our passions. We tend to take more years to "come into our own", than other house placements, but I would suspect that those with Sun in the 12th would also take a while to "come out of their shell". Maybe it is the Cancerian influence, but for me, I was always outgoing, but unsure, like a colt learning to walk.

I have had many people tell me that although I can flip in serious mode quickly, I still have this very innocent aura about me. One person said it always made them smile when they saw me walking down the hallway, because I seemed to have a spring in my step and would kind of bob my head, like I was entertaining a funny thought.

When I read that 4th house sun people become more successful and self assured as they aged, I was really floored. It was like reading my autobiography. What is interesting is that the Leo I am involved with is also a fellow 4th house Sun and Merc, it helps us understand each other, but we also seem to go through things at the same time.

posted July 08, 2003 02:34 PM              

Just kidding.

The fire sign men I have met were, how shall we put it, "raw natured." They were comfortable speaking in slang, informality, congenially friendly with an your face and in your space aura.

Loudly exaggerated too

posted July 08, 2003 03:06 PM              

I think Linda sums it up in Love Signs... Leos make amazing friends and even more powerful enemies...

Leo dudes = immaturity...TOTALLY

There's this Leo acquaintance I have, I watch how he pimps on women (because he's know to be... THE womanizer of our group)
And it's like he's a little kid, the guy is in his lower 20s and still throws stuff at girls and plays the "I pick on you because I like you" type-thing... kinda sad, more silly in my book.

posted July 08, 2003 05:06 PM            

I have known more than a few people like that and they feel someone else can take care of them. I call them mooches and my friendship does not extend to them.