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Elewolfe
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posted July 18, 2003 05:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda mentioned that Vulcan is the true ruler of Virgo but I have heard nothing else, does anyone know on the progress of this planet and what it means to Virgos such as myself?

Thanks

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matty
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posted July 18, 2003 07:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am equally as curious. I am getting a little tired of sharing Mercury with my finace, who is a Gemini .

I'd love my own Planet...Like those Pisces, how lucky....

Any how...hopefully they'll find it, or if they already have, will let the info out.

-Matty

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ECSTACYnHEELS
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posted July 19, 2003 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi I believe I may have some info reg your inq on Vulcan that you may find Helpful...back in the late 80's Linda published a newsltr called STAR NOTES...in one of them Linda informed us that VUlcan has indeed been discoverd but is hard to track as the planet is positioned between the sun and mercury..therfore she (vulcan) is often mistaken for a sun spot...linda also said Vulcan therfore because of her postion so close to the sun can be no more than 8 deg from ones natal sun in your natal chart....I hope you have found this info helpful If I can be of further assistance please feel free to email me..many blessings dear one.. 8^)

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N_wEvil
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posted July 19, 2003 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the newest body to be discovered is a planetisimal named Quoaor, which is in the Kuiper belt outside the orbit of Pluto (itself not usually classed a full planet by todays standards)

If there was a body between Mercury and the sun it would have been spotted by occlusion since the sun is under 24/7 observation from the ISS and the SOLARMAX sattelite.

I'm not sure what the hopes are for discovering any other planets outside of our current solar system unless they are truly massive planets on wildly elliptical orbits...but don't hold your breath. If something big was out there, i'm sure we'd have spotted it by now

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Randall
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posted July 19, 2003 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!
www.star-notes.com

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Elewolfe
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posted July 20, 2003 03:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies, I too like the idea of Virgo having its own planet, I think it will some day turn up along with all the other great discoveries that are being made. It would be interesting to see how the dynamics change when it is in place ...

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anafaery
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posted July 20, 2003 04:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have pretty much figured that linda might have been mistaken about vulcan and pan horus, with the technology we have today i really dont think that a new planet would be missed. remember that it was 30 years ago that she first mentioned these new planets, and almost 20 years ago since she last mentioned them. hey it happens, the best of us can stumble. its no reflection on her. who knows anyway... uranian astrology believes theres like 5 other planets out there. who knows if they are right? i really think though that if there was a planet so close to earth, as wevil said, we would have seen it by now. when we can see other stars in other galaxies i really dont think we would mistake a planet for a sun spot. todays technology is very impressive.

thats just my opinion, but heck ive been waiting 20 years for these planets and i think i have to move on, lol.

a further note- some astrologers use the ancient methods and therefore dont even use the outer planets. whatever floats your boat i spose.

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N_wEvil
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posted July 20, 2003 01:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, assuming that Sol has a sister star (most stars are actually binary systems!) maybe its just stuck behind a gas cloud with its 4 other planets.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted July 20, 2003 06:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lets say there were to be a planet that not only revolves around our sun in the oposate direction then all the others we have found thus far, but also has an orbit that brings it so far out [from the sun] that it takes about 6700 of our years to complete just one orbit.

If this were to be true , has mans technology realy existed long enough, have we realy had the time to record all that takes place in this solar system to give our selves enough credit to think we've realy discoverd more than just a few hairs on the ass of the uni-verse.

Lets wait a lot longer, to think we have dicoverd more then jut a few small shreds of what realy exist out there and here!!!

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anafaery
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posted August 02, 2003 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one of the transneptunian planets is called vulcanus. interesting.
arlene kramers site on uranian astro

ive been interested in uranian astro for some time, but id need to get a dial and i cant and even if i had the money, where the hell would i get it. no cc to order online. oh well, at some point im sure it will happen.

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juniperb
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posted August 02, 2003 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I intuite that Linda was correct.

Wevil, I have the faith , certainly no science to support it tho.

It just 'feels' right.

juniperb

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Randall
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posted August 02, 2003 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sticking with Linda. Her friend, Dave Walters, has published some very compelling information on the elusive Vulcan.

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Carlo
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posted August 02, 2003 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I compiled this page on Vulcan:

http://lovestarz.com/vulcan.html

Love,
Carlo

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juniperb
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posted August 02, 2003 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo, very enlightening for me and it`s great to have all the info in one place! Thanks!

juniperb

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BugginOut6106
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posted August 03, 2003 03:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo, are there any present day theories that Vulcan controls the wind? Any literature that u know of?

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Carlo
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posted August 03, 2003 01:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, I never heard that theory. My first intuition is to think of the archetype and the myth. Vulcan was a lame god/dess. The usual myth is that he was a male blacksmith. I went once to a Pagan gathering and at the main ritual, there were probably a hundred people (there were about 700 at the whole event). I helped the high priestess gather rocks earlier for a sundial she was going to use, by walking into a rock pile swarming with bees and gently removing some for the circle. Then after helping her set it up in the center of the circle, I remained for the ritual. There was a big man who took part in the ritual too, and he had set up an anvil, and throughout the whole invocations to the directions and the elements and the gods and through the entire ritual, he did nothing but hit the anvil with a blacksmith's hammer over and over, perfectly measured blows, and he sweated profusely the whole time. Boom!...Boom!...Boom! He looked at the anvil throughout, not once looking up. I was transfixed and riveted on this sight. He was working, in other words, concentrating the whole time, working hard for the gods, as I had done hours earlier, gathering rocks for the high priestess when she bumped into me and asked for help. And the sound rung throughout the countryside, it was remarkable. It resonated with me, and likely other Virgos, a great deal. It was the most memorable main ritual I had attended in ten years at this particular gathering, in Maryland, primarily because of that smith. It was thunderous, and that is the keyword Linda wanted us all to remember for Vulcan. Thunderous.

Now I imagine you can link thunder and wind, and you can make an argument that an intra-Mercurial planet, like the Moon, may have a great affect on the atmosphere and elements on Earth. And in fact, it may be quantifiable and capable of measure. Yet personally I have not heard that theory, so please please, any evidence that you have of it, other than something you heard and have no idea where, post it here. And even if you have no idea where you heard it, post what else you do recall. Track the person down you got it from, if that is the case, and determine where they got it, if you are so inclined. That would be fabulous. Dave Walters has been pretty scarce since the first LG site, I don't think he comes around here. I hope he makes the re-discovery, personally, he's a really nice guy. And Randall, if you have some of the compelling work of DW, can you please post it, give a link if it is online, or the name of the book or article, and publisher? That would be great. We in the realm of astrology should be working alongside the astronomers, and while that day may not come very soon, we should still keep working on Vulcan and moving forward with our study of it, rather than playing catch up when the planet is re-discovered

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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Randall
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posted August 03, 2003 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read it on the LG.net site, so the article is no longer up, but I will try to find more info. I believe that Dave is also an astronomer, so I think it was published in a scientific journal.

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bauschd
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posted August 03, 2003 10:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All, you know, I just has a little epiphany on a book I once read. It was called "The Pheonix Solution" (can't remember the author). It was about Egyptology - namely Horus and Seth's battles, along with other assorted theories. It was a very cool book because the ancient texts used were basically the most cryptic Egyptian texts there are, so therefore the validity of the theories were more credibile if you know what I mean. The easy texts are used by everyone ("The Orion Mystery" is a good example). Of course I'm completely over-simplifying, but trying to cut the story short...

Anyhow, the theory goes that the asteroid belt in between Mars and Jupiter is actually the remnants of two planets. He also backed the theory up by an astronomical theory that was made over 100 years ago concerning the extinction of the dinosars 65 and 250 million years ago respectively. The book went on to say that new evidence was found about the size, density and molecular structure of the asteroids that "proved" that they were planets. There are two bands within the field - both have smaller rocks on the outer edges and were less dense - indicating planets. Also, the sizes of the planets were quite huge, and at least one was a water planet.

Well, when reading this post it occured to me that these two could be the missing two planets that Linda spoke of. In which case maybe just knowing that these were the planets Vulcan and Pan-Horus (quite an appropiate name considering the "context" of it's discovery - through theory based on Egyptian mythology) might yield the changes Linda spoke of. See this is tricky - Does a planet need to be whole to have effect in astrology? From what Linda said, just knowing that it exists is enough for us to feel it. For example Neptune was still there before we discovered it, but I guess only ruled the Pisces after we discovered it. Maybe the same here? I'm not sure if you guys are aware of Egyptian mythology, but there were constant struggles between Horus and Seth that resulted in Horus' loss of his eye, and Seth's amputated testicles. These could just be the two planets Vulcan for Seth and Virgos, and Pan-Horus for Horus and Taurus. Once we realise that these planets are in fact still around in our Solar system "in disgiuse", then maybe they will start to rule!?

What does everyone think?

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anafaery
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posted August 03, 2003 11:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thats an excellent theory bausch! thank you for giving us something to think about there, thats great! *quite happy to have more information, and of a scientific bent at that*

take care

~ana

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Carlo
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posted August 04, 2003 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this book?

http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/Bookshop/Phoenix/phoenix.html

cool applet you made, very cool

you might be onto something there, except I don't know the answer. Horus sounds like Taurus, Vulcan sounds good for Virgo. Anything to peel this Mercury foster-rulership offa me already lol

although I am enjoying the rulership of Aphrodite as a progressed Libra Sun. I have another 22 years of that progression left to go, so maybe by then, when I go into my Scorpio progression, Vulcan will have been discovered, and I'll be a Vulcan-ruled, progressed Scorpio Sun, with three planets in Leo, and everyone had better keep the hell outta my way lol maybe I'll star in a movie called Grumpy Old Astrologer har har

Love,
Carlo

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bauschd
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posted August 05, 2003 10:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that's the one. A very awesome book. I posted somewhere else recently about other books that I've read. I think I even have a few "paragraph reviews" on my web-site as well.

I have a Virgo moon, and am wondering how my emotions may change when Vulcan steps up to the plate and takes them by the reigns. Thunder? Yeah! Bring it on! I'm not agressive in the slightest, but it could help keep all the vultures from trying to walk over me. My current solution is to walk away, but to explode in a flurry of fury and words could be cool

As for my previous words, I've since questioned how an exploded planet could rule a sign... "Ruling" is kind of due to gravity isn't it? The asteroid belt is scattered right around the sun and therefore wouldn't have a central point of gravity. I'm starting to think there could be a riddle in their explosion. Taurus vs Virgo may have already taken place and resulted in their explosion. Hence their people may have needed the guidance of the other "gods". However, by acknowleging their history, new gods may indeed become "created" in our awareness and take the responsibility that they should. I hope they do anyway. Anyone know what Pan-horus is supposed to represent? I also like the symbolism I've read in a few places (warning, this may offend some people) that horus was like jesus. The stories of christianity and egyptology are very similar, but I'm not saying Jesus was Horus, merely history may have repeated. But I like the irony that Horus was a loving god, and Taurus became ruled by Virgo - god of love. Also, Vulcan is the thunder god which is supposed to rule Virgo, but Mercury the god of words has taken it's place. I'm in absolute fascination about what will happen if we do take up these two gods, and give them there rightful place on the astrological wheel.

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