posted August 05, 2003 04:43 AM              

Apologies for the diverse subject matter in this post. Astrology is perhaps not appropriate, but time is short and I wish address Anafaery’s thread in this topic, as well as other members of the Group.

Anafaery.

You say you are neutral to me but that is not the case. If we must elaborate, then I would further comment that reaction is preferable to what you term neutrality. In an introspective state with Awareness, reaction can purge and lift weight from the soul allowing it to ascend to higher planes.

True Neutrality is a state that occurs when the lower self has been frozen and the soul has achieved perfect balance. This is the State of the Masters but only the hope of Seekers. Or, said differently, the State of the Masters is the Light of Seekers, leading them to Unity and Truth.

Your refusal to accept what you term “my generosity” is simply a way to protect your own perception of your own honesty. It has nothing to do with Being Honest. It has nothing to do with “me”. At this level, we are only capable of hypocrisy, to presume more is to also to presume the status of a Master.

Having noted the above, you had the option to engage in this exchange privately through email. However, you made your thoughts, intentions and understanding public. In this way, many have the benefit of your example. Your honesty is a bridge to Being Honest and thus you have traveled further than many. Your decision to Share is also indicative of your generosity, which is also a bridge to the Absolute of that Name. May you always find that which you Seek.

Lindaland.

I did not come here for agreement. That is pointless. As I said in another post, argue and disagree, but do it with Awareness. At the present, “I” am an ideal candidate for any disagreement. Or, to avoid being enigmatic, stated another way “”I” do not have a horse in this particular race.” My races are in other places with other Friends where I present my own arguments and work for further, clearer states of Awareness.

To address those who have been engaged in an internal argument about “my methods” in this forum, we will indulge those doubts by saying that the quintessential question in the Socratic Method of esoteric pursuits is this:

What do you want?

Now, perhaps we should finish off some of the group’s remaining large doubts by providing these internal arguers with some “personal” information so that they can “connect” to “me”.

My Master Walks in Companionship with the Masters of the Ages. He rescued me from illusion and delusion and has illuminated my Path to Unity. His Truth causes trembling and pain that ends in liberation. He united me with my soul mates, the Eternal Friends who inspire me with Love and Joy and give me the Vision of Unity. I am alive when they speak, my heart listens for their breath like a lover in wait for the glance of the Beloved. I have waited, prayed and petitioned a thousand years for this reunion and the bliss cannot be contained in all the words and worlds of all poets who have ever lived.

In “history” I have been the silent one, forgotten in the pages and passages of Time. I have been Meili, Mai, Malihe and Mellissa. Names. Names. Names. I have walked the Way of the East and West. I am a Pieces and my star is Al-nilam, the Central One in the Belt of Orion. My birth number is 4, my spiritual name is 19 and my last name is 19. My symbol is the triquetra or Odin’s knot, the Sign and Declaration of my tie to my soul mates.

Now, a reiteration and some final, new questions from the proverbial Socratic Method:

Do you now Know me?

Do you know my State?

What do you want?

posted August 05, 2003 10:41 AM              

Anafaery says what she says, just like you say what you say. We are all free to speak whatever our minds and Souls wish, as long as they are within the guidelines of this website.

That said, she has communicated within the simple paradigm's of this site. She has not asked you to analyze and criticize her state of soul evolution. She can say whatever she desires to you or anyone else here. We have the choice to read or not. You have said communicate with you with Awareness---well here you are. I am well aware you want to be communicated with in a particular way, as does everyone else here on this site. We ask that YOU be aware of our needs too.

To answer you:

1. What do you want?

I want you to be as open as you want, and allow others to feel safe to be open with you without criticizing them based on an imagined world that lives only in you. We are all miniature Universes within the Universe. Be.

2. Do you now Know me?

From what I know, you are a nebulous internet personality who has criticized how our community has approached you. You are a new member demanding that we fit into you.

3. Do you know my State?

Human, typing behind a computer monitor.

Aphrodite

posted August 05, 2003 01:06 PM              

Why does it seem like there's so much hostility around here lately, mostly to do with spiritual beliefs? Are we starting to feel the impacts of Mars being so close to the earth, in the sign Pisces????

Let's remember that the stars only incline. They do not compel.

posted August 05, 2003 08:13 PM              

Aprodite.

“Anafaery says what she says, just like you say what you say. We are all free to speak whatever our minds and Souls wish, as long as they are within the guidelines of this website.”

Would you say then that I am “outside the guidelines of this website”?

“That said, she has communicated within the simple paradigm's of this site. She has not asked you to analyze and criticize her state of soul evolution. She can say whatever she desires to you or anyone else here. We have the choice to read or not. You have said communicate with you with Awareness---well here you are. I am well aware you want to be communicated with in a particular way, as does everyone else here on this site. We ask that YOU be aware of our needs too.”

What is the “need” of this group? Do you understand the difference between a statement and a criticism?

“To answer you:
1. What do you want?
I want you to be as open as you want, and allow others to feel safe to be open with you without criticizing them based on an imagined world that lives only in you. We are all miniature Universes within the Universe. Be.
2. Do you now Know me?
From what I know, you are a nebulous internet personality who has criticized how our community has approached you. You are a new member demanding that we fit into you.
3. Do you know my State?
Human, typing behind a computer monitor.”

First what is imagined by you may or may not be what Lives in “me”. Second, you confuse criticism with clarity. Third, I was not aware that I “demanded” anything in particular. Finally, your last statement is perhaps the most accurate since I am on the Path that begins with becoming Human.

Carlo.

"Melissa the Fish...what brings you here?
Love,
Carlo"

What brings me here is the sigh of the heart. The “ahh” that articulates everything and nothing. For some the sigh is to Know the Reality behind that which we call Destiny. For others, it is the heartfelt call for Order in a world that is entering the final stages of Madness. Finally, it is the sigh of my own heart that Sees the cumulative confusion of the Ages playing out in every tiny microcosmic universe of every human life.

lioneye68.

"Ok, I admit. I have no idea what the "Socratic Method" is...I'm curious."

That reference was for a few individuals who preferred another method communication. Like all human beings, I interpret instructions in my own way which may or not may not be the most effective method of execution.

The Socratic Method is a “question and answer” method of exchanging information so that both parties can begin to communicate with a shared understanding and point of reference. After reaching that shared understanding they can engage in transformation and transmutation. Further, after one or two exchanges, both parties will be able determine if it is at all possible to communicate. I am guilty of naiveté in that, I assumed that those who were calling would recognize my voice and not need preliminary artifice.

“Why does it seem like there's so much hostility around here lately, mostly to do with spiritual beliefs? Are we starting to feel the impacts of Mars being so close to the earth, in the sign Pisces????”

There is a difference between hostility and reaction. I have seen no one here who is “hostile”. That term implies that the person and the soul are in Unity and absolutely Know what is being communicated, and that communication is contrary to the purposeful intentions of the person.

“BTW, Meili, I LOVE reading your posts. I can tell you're miles ahead of the average person, spiritually. Certainly ahead of myself, and I get a soul-stiring "AHA!" feeling from just about every one of your posts.”

When the heart utters the sigh of longing for the Beloved it is carried through the seven heavens and resonates as a Divine Symphony of Music. The sigh of the heart moves the Angels to dance and the Saints to tears. Nurture your sighs, they are indeed the stuff of Magic.

Peace to you lioneye68 and Aphrodite. Love to you as well Carlo, may those words always find a comfortable home in your heart.

Meili

posted August 05, 2003 09:45 PM              

Meilli, how did you get the symbol above the e in naiveté? Do you have a special keyboard or a babble fish? Or maybe copy and paste as I've done?

Yeah, I really enjoyed having you here as *I* thought arguing with you was fun. As to your questions.

1. I want happiness and self-fullfilment to prevail upon all people. I think astrology, numerology, and even religions, etc. are here for this purpose. We are all learning what it means to be alive, and how to achieve happiness, but sometimes learning takes so long, or opportunities aren't available to achieve what we want. In any case, I want people to be happy. Questioning isn't the be-all and end-all to living as I'm sure you're aware. It seems more of an evolution thing - a snap-shot view of who we are, and where we're going, but experience is *everything*, so therefore happiness is the most important thing - sure sadness is sometimes needed to know what happiness is, but I'm talking statistics - I want people to be predominantly happy.

2. I know you as much as I know anyone really. Us geminis kind of have a saying that "once you know me, I'll change!" Knowing is understanding. It is completely in the now, and hence may change in the future, but I feel I do know you. You are a person that is trying as much as possible to awaken people to possibilities they may not have thought of. I just hope that this does not make you too anxious or let down when people don't take everything you say as fact. I don't think this is your aim, but is something that seems important to you. Ultimately I think you are a human like the rest of us.

3. Your state is something I'm not too sure of. Enlightenment and yin & yang don't really seem to mix. Does the more enlightened you are necessarily make you more human? In your case it seems you have many answers and hence may not ask many more questions, but in my experience, each answer usually yields many more questions.

A final point (sorry for rambling) the socratic method is all well and good when both people agree, but what if they don't? Many questions have answers in black and white and hence are open to interpretation. I've read some Plato and found there were quite a few points that I didn't agree with, that if removed would have invalidated the final answer. Therefore, I do not think this method is very accurate (not to mention that opinions may change, which will create several paths through the philosophy creating mess). I tend to like an approach that is dynamic, but I guess this has flaws as there is no real answer, but then, isn't everything relative? The trick it to keep an open mind and not get stuck on one thing. I think many religious wars would be prevented if they all realised that there is no single black or white answer, but that's just my two (not couting words) cents...

Dean.

posted August 05, 2003 10:48 PM              

“God I love this stuff. In my experience, arguments held by people on different wavelengths *always* become heated (I'm using always here completely loose).”

Yes, I see that you “love this stuff”. Your passion makes me smile and gives me more joy than you can imagine. I too “love this stuff”. Other than the Love of my soul mates, it is the only other purpose for my existence.

“Meilli, how did you get the symbol above the e in naiveté? Do you have a special keyboard or a babble fish? Or maybe copy and paste as I've done?”

I almost always paste. I am Responsible for everything that I say and communicate.

“Yeah, I really enjoyed having you here as *I* thought arguing with you was fun. As to your questions. “

Yes, you still know what fun is. It can even be “fun” when it is unpleasant.

“1. I want happiness and self-fullfilment to prevail upon all people. I think astrology, numerology, and even religions, etc. are here for this purpose. We are all learning what it means to be alive, and how to achieve happiness, but sometimes learning takes so long, or opportunities aren't available to achieve what we want. In any case, I want people to be happy. Questioning isn't the be-all and end-all to living as I'm sure you're aware. It seems more of an evolution thing - a snap-shot view of who we are, and where we're going, but experience is *everything*, so therefore happiness is the most important thing - sure sadness is sometimes needed to know what happiness is, but I'm talking statistics - I want people to be predominantly happy.”

Happiness and fulfillment are two different things. One is fulfilled by following the Design of Destiny. That may or may not lead to “happiness”. But in essence, and with respect to fulfillment, you and I share the same desire.

“2. I know you as much as I know anyone really. Us geminis kind of have a saying that "once you know me, I'll change!" Knowing is understanding. It is completely in the now, and hence may change in the future, but I feel I do know you. You are a person that is trying as much as possible to awaken people to possibilities they may not have thought of. I just hope that this does not make you too anxious or let down when people don't take everything you say as fact. I don't think this is your aim, but is something that seems important to you. Ultimately I think you are a human like the rest of us.”

Thank you most kindly for your concerns. I do not expect anyone to take my words as “fact” and, as you have pointed out, even understanding is transitory. Awaken is the relevant term here. First, there is no power in heaven or earth that will awaken someone who is determined to sleep. So what I do, say or offer will have no affect. For those who are stretching and yawning, some will have a glimpse of the Reality. Of those, some will choose the drug of sleep over the Reality of Wakefulness and some will throw off the last vestiges of sleep and begin the Work.

“3. Your state is something I'm not too sure of. Enlightenment and yin & yang don't really seem to mix. Does the more enlightened you are necessarily make you more human? In your case it seems you have many answers and hence may not ask many more questions, but in my experience, each answer usually yields many more questions.”

If you understand the yin and yang symbol, you will see that it is a bridge to what you call Enlightenment. Even then, we are not far into the Journey and the Work continues. Have you considered the space between the yin and yang? Have you considered the Absence of yin and yang and what that would imply?

“A final point (sorry for rambling) the socratic method is all well and good when both people agree, but what if they don't? Many questions have answers in black and white and hence are open to interpretation. I've read some Plato and found there were quite a few points that I didn't agree with, that if removed would have invalidated the final answer. Therefore, I do not think this method is very accurate (not to mention that opinions may change, which will create several paths through the philosophy creating mess). I tend to like an approach that is dynamic, but I guess this has flaws as there is no real answer, but then, isn't everything relative? The trick it to keep an open mind and not get stuck on one thing. I think many religious wars would be prevented if they all realised that there is no single black or white answer, but that's just my two (not couting words) cents...”

At this level, people will never agree completely and all methods have flaws and the possibility for misunderstanding. We take what we are given and Work with it.
Finally, there is a difference between seeing that there is no black or white answer (only gray), and seeing that everything is relative with no absolute (black does not exist and white does not exist). There is an Absolute, and orientating to that Reality will allow you to navigate the muddier waters of the color gray.

posted August 06, 2003 01:06 AM              

Thank you for your suggestions. I do take all comments to heart.

posted August 06, 2003 01:35 AM              

That being said-Why should the "lower self" need to be frozen. The body and mind is not without understanding. If the body and mind are frozen in the interest of neutrality, how can the body and mind of man then finally receive illumination from the wisdom of balance, of the the soul and/or spirit.

Is a freezing of "the lower self" not a severing and maybe even rejection of the present self when what is needed for any number of reasons, is an acceptance and perfecting of the whole(which would come from the desirable balance); so that no rejection or severing is required?

posted August 06, 2003 02:13 AM              

“Meili Zhiwei-do you assert that your reality is everyone else's and that therefore there is only one reality?”

There is only One Reality but we do not perceive that Unity because multiplicity confuses the senses. We “see through a glass darkly” and only when the veils to perception fall can we move from multiplicity to See our world, and the other world, as it is. The veils do not fall of their own accord nor do they all fall at once. It is a process that I have alluded to in other posts.

“I am asking because you make very definitive statement on what you perceive to be "the state" of other people and I assume that you are making these statements based on what your reasons would be if you were saying the same thing that the other person is saying. How can you be sure what the other person means? They could be saying something that has a completely different connotation than you perceive it to be and I wonder if you are not taking certain things into consideration before you make your final assesments.”

There is not way for me to “prove” to you that I do understand what people “mean”. I know what they “mean” because I have walked the path of confusion and delusion. This is not criticism, it is the state of things as they are now. If you wish to dispute that most of humanity is in the grip of illusion, delusion and fast asleep to the perception of Reality and Unity, I would be happy to entertain your arguments in another post.

“Now while I realize that the spirit, mind, body and soul of man has their common charasteristics, it is not wise to assume that personal assesments can be made based on a statement by someone without any knowledge whatsoever of personal situation. I do believe that quick and accurate assesments are possible, but I would think that even the most sensitive of psychics would require more information to make the finite psychological and spiritual deductions that you share so freely.”

First, I am not a psychic in the sense that you understand the term. I either see something or I don’t. Of course I am subject to the same veils I described above. The only difference between me and others is that I am awake, aware of the veils and can see when they are blocking my view and when they are not. I described this confusion to Ra.

“Meili Zhiwei-in addition to my first question (above) I wanted to know why you said in your initial post that "the lower self)" must be frozen to acheive neutrality. And I assume that by the "lower self" you mean the "earthly" mind and body. I will approach this disscussion from the viewpoint that neutrality is a desirable state or trait or what-have-you.(which it may or may not be)

That being said-Why should the "lower self" need to be frozen. The body is not without understanding. If it is frozen in the interest of neutrality how can the body of man finally receive illumination from the wisdom of balance, of the the soul and/or spirit.

Is a freezing of "the lower self" not a severing and maybe even rejection of the present self when what is needed, is an acceptance and perfecting of the whole; so that no rejection or severing is required?”

I used the term “neutrality” in the sense that the poster meant it and elaborated in that context.

With respect to the lower self or ego, these are the animal aspects of human existence. Pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed and sloth interfere with the Divine Destiny placed in the heart of human beings. It is told that human beings were made part animal and part angelic. When man succumbs to base instincts he becomes worse than animals. When man transcends his animal aspect he becomes more divine than angels. So, the ego is not frozen in the interest of neutrality, it is frozen so that we can exercise our birthright as manifestations of the Divine and truly live real lives with purpose, awareness and knowledge of our Destiny.

Thank you for your indulgence.

Peace.
Meili

posted August 06, 2003 02:46 AM              

i *am* neutral towards you. you assume to know how i mean the word, allow me my own expressions please. if you are unsure as to the context in which i use a word, ask.

i had strong feelings at one point, but i am beyond that at this time. the moment i deleted the post i spoke of, i had washed my hands of the matter. i chose not to be 'involved' hence, remaining neutral towards you. when you posted your kind offer to me i could not in good faith accept it knowing the strong reaction i had toward you previously. that to me would be two faced, and pretending to feel a certain way about you that i didnt, to benefit for myself is selfish by my own standards. i do have strong morals and a keen sense of responsibility to my fellow travellers on this planet.

there is obviously some way in which you and i are destined to interact, and perhaps its a test for me or for you. still- insofar as my personal feelings toward you, i do remain neutral in that i dont pass judgement on you. i have no opinion of you, i merely accept that we dance in the same circles, and i am content with that. i take no offense at you or your comments, they just are what they are and need no introspection nor analysis. i dont need to question who you are and why you are here, and what your motivations are. i simply accept that like me, you dance, perhaps to a different song, but we are fellow dancers and thats enough for me.

reaction is benefic and cathartic yet too much of anything is unsuitable for a balanced state. balance is my birthright, its what i am here to learn and to teach. we must pick and choose our outlets and gauge using our awareness of our self and its needs before we set out tilting at windmills. that is why i deleted my post. i kept it for some reason, and i do own my words (i reread them last night). those words are dispassionate due to the information i had about you at the time, they lack what would be there were i relating to you as an equal person. by your nature you set yourself aloft, there is a distance to you and i am not one to criticise it at this time. these are not critical statements, they are my truth. they are what i see. i certainly dont criticise you for your distance, as sometimes i have need of it too for reasons of my own. it just comes out differently. this ties into the feelings i had toward you after your post with the offer of a favor for me. when i read that post, my heart instantly melted toward you as you were the most approachable and 'human' that i have seen you to be. you gave me something to relate to. one could say that you brought yourself down to my level. as i said, that is when i started to feel a fondness for you. we are all merely human when all is said and done, whether we be more spiritually evolved or not. there isnt anything to be ashamed of to be human either. in the physical there are many things that are unappealing but the fact of the matter is, there are many rewards. i am quite happy to be human, even for all the pain it has brought at times, and the limitations it has. limitations arent a bad thing. they are useful and valuable to give us balance and context.

i did not refuse to accept your generosity, i rather gracefully and humbly declined. there is a difference. it was not a way to protect my perception of my honesty either, it was my facing certain actions of mine and owning up to my responsibilities on this planet toward other people. i am extremely honest, it has been commented on many times in my life. often honesty hurts. more often than not it ends up hurting *me* although it lacks guile. some people simply cannot handle the truth and will get cranky if its what they are offered. i have known this to be thus for some time, and though i have lost friends, had friends turn against me, same with family, the truth is too precious to me to give up on. i also am learning to temper that honesty. sometimes it just isnt necessary, there are several ends that justify means. i reserve mine for when they are most useful or necessary. anyway my honesty to you was nothing to protect my own delusions of my own honesty, for i have no use of delusions. although it may not seem like it, i am quite humble. i strongly disagree with you that only a 'master' is capable of being other than a hypocrite. as humans we all have that capability, yet some of us just arent. its not in our nature (speaking in a global 'we' not me specifically, i am sure that i could arguably be called 'hypocritical at times).

what really is hypocrisy though? to me the word/concept is not that useful unless in extreme situations. situations change and paying attention to the context in life might cause us to seem hypocritical but to me, its actually a positive thing if the purpose is noble.

tonight i am weary of mind and my post reflects this. i felt i had better answer as soon as i could though so i have tried to make my position clear. perhaps another day i might do better, but tonight this is all i am capable of.

as for your questions...

Do you now Know me? no. i believe i know certain things about you, using my intuition, but it doesnt matter to me as i have 'washed my hands' (emotionally) of situation. do you know me? or anyone here?

Do you know my State?i believe so. again, it does not matter to me what your state is. its yours, and i am not emotionally involved, so your state is not something i agonize over. i mean that with respect, its just a bland fact. theres no emotion there whatsoever.

What do you want? that my dear, would take ages to answer. what do i want from you? nothing. i never did. i dont want anything from most people. i am mostly here to help, to be of service in some way, to ease hurt, to help others realize how wonderful they are. in rare cases i do need a certain level of respect/acceptance, but 90% of the time that need is irrelevant, it is nonpressing. i am human though, and bound to the same emotional laws. everyone needs to feel they fulfil a need, they have a niche in a community. i dont question that, i just accept it and am very grateful that some people see fit to fulfil my needs.

as i said, i am quite fatigued tonight so am not at my clearest verbally. i hope at least something i have said provides insight. hopefully if theres a need, tomorrow after a good rest i can clarify myself further.

take care

~ana

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 06, 2003 02:54 AM              

your comments gave me much peace when i needed them. i like your style(s)

good night

~ana

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 06, 2003 05:25 AM              

Anafaery.

Thank you very much for all your efforts to explain and clear things for me. If nothing else, we can agree that Vancouver is the closest thing to heaven on this earth, yes?

Blessings to you always.

Silverbells.

My apologies to you for my own lack of clarity. Of course all communications in this forum is tenuous at best and we all have our own definitions for words and descriptions for concepts. I am well aware of my own limitations at communicating in a way that is acceptable to many. If the need arises then I will be provided with guidance to transcend this limitation. If there is no pressing need, then it will be rare that that I ever regularly engage with a group such as this. But in any case, unlike other members of the family of Lindaland, I am only a friend of a friend of a friend. A visitor that will pass and hardly be remembered shortly afterward.

Returning to the subject of the lower self: If you feel that pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed and sloth have a function in this human existence and do not require freezing, then I accept that.

Respect and Blessings to you.
Meili

posted August 06, 2003 05:52 AM              

I was wondering if your name was Hawaian?
You wrote naiveté with the french é, so are you french or from the DOM TOM? maybe africa?
Côte d'Ivoire?
Anyways i'm from Tahiti, the tribe of Teva, and it's my real name, yours definitely sounds hawaian...curious

Big up to Meili the burning Flame,more fire!
"No time to argue or debate, love and unity we trod from place to place
Babylone by bus we bring the jammin' sound and if you stick around we won't let you down
Don't fight children black brown white what a lovely feeling..."
We're all gonna sing the same song
So if you argue fuss and fight you're giving hypocrites the right to say that you can't unite...my god... we need not fight."

posted August 06, 2003 07:08 AM              

Lovely name Teva.

To answer your question I have a few names. Meili Zhiwei is Chinese. Meili is Beauty (it can be further broken down as Mei-li), and Zhiwei is Wisdom (also broken down as Zhi-wei). I am also Mai-li, an American Indian name. I do not have information on that meaning.

I am Malihe, also meaning Beauty but from the Arabic trilateral root MLH which has connotations of salt or essence, also persistence and determination. Finally, I am Mellissa, from the Greek word Honeybee.

All these names are similar to Hawaiian names such as Malia (mary) Malie (calm) Maile (a certain vine). But what is in a name after all?

One of the two of my dearest loves has a fondness for the French Language and I do endeavor not to butcher it. After all, we have yet to settle our spelling disputes. American English or British English...the debate continues.

Thank you for the song.

Peace.
Meili

posted August 06, 2003 07:17 AM              

Yeah..im not nationalistic at all really, i just think its silly putting Z's everywhere and not pronouncing "herbs" properly

Onto more serious matters -

posted August 06, 2003 07:50 AM              

blessings to you as well.

~faery

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 06, 2003 07:52 AM              

Lift up your conscious no matter with the violence...who feels it knows it!

posted August 06, 2003 08:44 AM            

If there is no pressing need, then it will be rare that that I ever regularly engage with a group such as this. But in any case, unlike other members of the family of Lindaland, I am only a friend of a friend of a friend. A visitor that will pass and hardly be remembered shortly afterward.
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if there is no pressing need, then it will be rare that that I ever regulary engage with a group such as this.

I feel you must sense a pressing need for you to share your time here with us.

Would you please elaborate on that statement. Perhaps even share the need ?

I for one, will re-member you for a long time to come.

thank you, juniperb