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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 15, 2003 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Besides the obviose current events of my personal life over the last 4 months, something has been calling an old ,old, old part of me to wake up and litteraly go to war !
Untill recently I was sure that I wanted to continue doing what ever it takes to continue becoming a musican. Now the only passion for a career I feel is to enter the Marrines[did I spell that correctly?], and pursue a millitary career.

Crazy thing is the creative part of me hates this other side of me. Especialy knowing how much I would enjoy such bloody work Im not at all happy with my self for these passions. Yet I feel I no longer have any controll over this age old part of my self. As in Ive no choice any more.
This probably all sounds skitzo but,,, realy does seem the parts of my self I once admired have all slowly died.
Unfortinatly I only know how to partialy read a chart. My rising being Aries doesnt give me enough of a explanation for all of this. Maybe all of this isnt even in my chart?
Either way, if someone could take a look at my chart and horoscope to try and find an explanation for this old demon's awakening within me I would realy apreciate it.

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anessene
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posted August 15, 2003 12:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hiya Magus of Music

I didn't look at your chart, but I do believe I have been through something quite similar... and to make a long story short, my intuition tells me it's possible that a soul piece of yours (or a past life, as some might choose to call it) is 'awakening,' as you have phrased it.

It could be a part of you is diving into some old anger (old memories) from times gone past, and feeling the urge to 'fight it out,' which, in my opinion, is something very important to artists, musicians, creators and such...

If I may share, a few years ago, I re-called a piece of my own life spent as a soldier killed in battle, and YES! oh man, did the urge to fight ever come on me fierce! I too tried to find my way into the military, but was denied due to my eyesight.

In retrospect, it was the best thing, however, because in my creative endeavors as a writer, this fierce 'warrior' side of me not only helped draw out some fabulous artistic creations, but helped me in healing some painful and self-destructive tendencies of mine; in a nutshell, healing the parts of me that HAVE died many times before in battle.

Anyway, as a pacifist personally, I would encourage you to explore this side of you that wishes to fight; honour it, speak to it, listen to it, but try not to jump the gun.

anessene

PS... If we want to stop dying, we have to stop killing.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 15, 2003 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 15, 2003 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Shawn
You have natal mars in your 10th house - so this would explain the fact that you're drawn to the miltary. (Not everyone with Mars in the 10th is drawn to the military but it's one interpretation of it)

Sorry I don't have time to fully look at your chart at the moment - I have to get some other things done re the astrology course.

However, I did notice that transiting Pluto has been (and still is) conjunct your natal Neptune. Pluto moves very slowly so you'll have this for a while yet...The good news is that Pluto goes direct at the end of this month. It's currently at 17 degree Sag and your natal Neptune is at 19 Sag - so while Pluto has been retro it's passed over your Neptune for the 2nd time. (2nd hits are usually the most noticeable). With this transit Pluto can "kill" your dreams, faith, fantasties etc. Pluto can "destroy" things - he wants change. He looks for potential problems....and then forces you to deal with them.... Pluto isn't gentle...he doesn't care - he just makes changes. The changes do turn out for the best in the long run
Sue

PS: You also have both Mars & Uranus transiting your 11th house (hopes and wishes). Mars will be making you want to take action with regards to your hopes and wishes (also re any groups you are involved with and your friends) and Uranus as we all know is unpredictable, bringing sudden and surprising changes.

PPS: Transiting Neptune is currently at 11 degree Aqua - so conjunct your natal Sun (10 degree). Neptune is currently retro so moving towards it's 2nd hit on your Sun. Neptune turns direct at 10 degree 24 min Aqua on 23rd Oct. So again this is a long transit for you. I use koch house sytem which puts your Sun in your 11th house - so you're having a lot of transitary action in that house at the moment.

Transiting Neptune aspecting your Sun will tend to increase your imagination and sensitivity. Also as Neptune rules drugs and alcohol - be careful there. Neptune also rules "delusions" so be careful as you may not see trouble coming as you may not be interested in reality with this transits. The conjunction is considered to be a stressful aspect, so you may also find yourself being much more easily influenced by others.

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Kat
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posted August 23, 2003 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Make love not war"
Art heals. Music heals.

Are you frustrated wanting to be productive in life, but don't know how? The military can sometimes be the easy answer. Think twice before you join. Some people I know have had great military careers, others I know used the military as a last ditch effort because they were frustrated at themselves and did not know any other option.


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Do I remember past lives? I sometimes find it difficult remembering what I did yesterday.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 25, 2003 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat- Thank you very much. That does indeed explain alot of the obvius.

Kat- "make Love not war",,,if I do have a choice of course I prefer to have a career making art.,,,, Im not sure if I have to many options left now. Especialy since as Ive already staded I dont feel like Im even the one making the choices over these last few months. Desperation concerning money and finances is only a small part of it.

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted August 25, 2003 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi magus I just did your chart.
Sun in Aquarius, Moon in Pisces
This astrological combination points to a rather delicate and refined nature. You tend to be sentimental and are easily moved by beauty. You are interested in unusual concepts and ideas that appeal to your artistic sensibility. Your manner is gentle and kindly. A somewhat retiring person, you prefer the comfort of an obscure corner to the harsh glare of the limelight. Your imagination is powerful. Little incidents and random associations can bring forth waves of sentimentality. The studious side of your nature is awakened. You could develop your psychic and occult leanings. If you appear passive, it may be because you have few demands. You are charitable, sympathetic, and eager to share.
The key to a more harmonious existence lies in channeling your gifts of character in such a way that you will not be prey to rougher, exploitative persons.

Your ascendant is aries which conflicts strongly with loving pisces and peacemaking Aquarian;
Ascendant in Aries, Mars in the Eleventh House
Aries is the first sign of the zodiacal belt and its natives seem also desirous of being "first" in all activities with which they happen to be involved. The cardinality of the sign makes you extremely active and capable of displaying ambition, impulsiveness, courage, and boldness in order to satisfy your desire for prominence in the world.
The general course of your life will be filled with many 'ups' and 'downs' and changes conforming very much with the psychological nature of your temperament. Whether you triumph or not in life depends on your ability to develop your most positive inborn qualities and, simultaneously, exert some control over your less favorable characteristics, such as a lack of prudence, and a certain disregard for the feelings and opinions of others.
Aries gives a tendency for its natives to be inclined to politics and public work. You should be successful (or at least attempt to be so) in any work or activity that necessitates pioneering ideas and/or a militant disposition. You also appear to have an ardent attitude in any project that somehow or another involves new concepts or original work and in which you are given a position of leadership. One of your problems is that in your love for achievement in novel projects you tend to destroy old concepts and former contributions which would, perhaps, have been useful for your endeavors. Impulsive, critical, despising mean or dubious acts, you will create many excellent friendships but also important enemies. Your life is rich in passion and ardent love. In sexual matters you are quick, aggressive, and to the point. You also are a lover of pleasures, which you feel with a bright, open, and sparkling character.

The eleventh house is the house of hopes, aspirations, wishes, friendships and general luck. There will be a tremendous amount of energy dedicated to matters concerning your friends (or friends that turn into enemies). The relations with people within your social life are not altogether satisfactory and there are contentions among acquaintances. You must control your impulses and out-spoken ways to improve this behavior.

By the way, mars is nearer than ever to earth, especially this wednesday!! Look out!!

I also did a travel chart on you, the north west Canada near Repulse Bay, is a huge energy source for you, with almost all of your planets and aspects crossing over in that area. Maybe go on holiday there, you'll be suprised!!

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 25, 2003 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun_Scorpion,

Not a bad summary at all. As far as Mars goes,,, you aint kidding! I think its afecting me alot more then most other peaple.

Either way, this wensday should be interesting world wide!

By the way, cool name.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2003 07:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, magus of music we share the same b-day.

Do you wanna fight anyone/anything in particular or do u just have an urge to fight? Sorry i didnt find anything stick out in u're chart, but then again im not a qualified astrologer.


Cat. Pluto transit has definitely KILLED my dreams and aspirations. Thank God it's only there temporarily.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 25, 2003 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer- Same exact year as well???

UUUHHHHMMMMM, Well I can think of two main indivduals I would'nt mind giving a real good burning to. But its preety much an overwelming urge to thrash mostly everyone and everything about now. A good part of my nature has always been to enjoy a confrontation, or some sort of oposing force. Its just that now I have a harder time separating the inocent from the guilty. Like the part of me that used to only want to give justice to the peaple who deserve it suddenly doesnt exist and whats left of me doesnt realy care about the guiltless.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2003 08:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup same year but around 2 hours after u tho.

Interesting....You physically wanna thrash ppl??? Is there anything in ure personal life that u think this might stem from? I too have a hard time distinguishing between the "good" and "bad" guys nowadays. No body's perfect.

Have u tried prayer, meditation, or medication (j/k)??

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 25, 2003 09:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DeepIYM
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posted August 25, 2003 11:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, WAR Sucks,
But theres a warior in me. I'm a picses, with a Aries moon and a virgo Rising. (my b-day is march 2, 87; B-time 6:10 pm) man if any one feels like exsplaing thses intence vibes go ahead...
Randall III

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DeepIYM
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posted August 25, 2003 11:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also Mars is the closest its been in a 1000 years to man the god of war! (oh and i also have two luminaries in aries) (shesh)

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DayDreamer
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posted August 26, 2003 01:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This just came to mind..i read somewhere that sun-conjunct-mars can make u appear Aries-like. Can anyone back that up?

Can u clarify what u mean by:

"what happened in my life may have only been the material plain's manifestation of something that happend or had to be from the higher plains."

For me Saturn in Virgo (5th hs) has had a big influence in my life. We both have this as a singleton because saturn is the only planet in the earth sign (virgo) so energy in our chart is focused here. You have saturn in the 6th hs. ??In vedic astrology, saturn in the 6th hs has something to do with destroyin the enemy?? Maybe u should check that out.

Ive got Gemini rising, born in northern Manitoba. Parents moved there before i was born...dad is a Sag so that explains alot. But Taurus mom didnt like it one bit!

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 26, 2003 03:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer-
I meant that,,,,,,,,,,,,if consdering the uni-versal laws of "As above so below",,,then alot points to something big just happened to me in higher plains and other moments in time, that simply chose to manifest them selves the particular ways they took place in my life.

Saturn in the 6th??? I dont know,,, I havent come acrost any nterpretaion like that yet. I will totaly look into t though. I need to get better books.

A gemini rising version of me,,HHHHMMMMMMMMM sounds eqauly as interesting as my combo in the least!

Deep- Welcome to LindaLand.

I think its more like 60,000 years that Mars has been this close to us though.Preety intense times isnt it!

Thanks again everyone,
Shawn

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DayDreamer
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posted August 26, 2003 06:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m not too familiar with the viewpoint "As above, so below." Maybe u can elaborate. But doesn’t this belief lookdown upon negative things like war??

What is this “something big” that just happened in that other plain? And are u sure it specifically manifests itself into u goin to war?? War is not the answer, unless it’s in defense. Unfortunately doesn’t look like the world is headed any other direction.

Hey, how was u’re upbringing if u don’t mind me asking??

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 26, 2003 11:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

As above, so below.......

In a nutshell,,,,every thing that happens here [in our material plain], is a mirror reflection of what goes on above. And vice versa. "Above" pertains to higher plains, dimensions, points in the illusion of time, the other side of our solar systems asteroid belt and many other things can be "above".

The wiser beings of above dont so much look down at war as they just dont recomend it,,because they are aware that war is a prmative action. Yet war and agresive action has existed in different areas of the Uni-Verse as long as it has existed.

"This somethng big that happened", hard to say as of yet exactly what could have happened up there. My over whelming urges to be on the front line of our next war are more like,,,,only the outcome of what ever happened to me above[or n other points of time],and what took place n my personal life a few months ago.

Let me put try and put it even more simply-
Life time after life time for about a 1000 Earth years now my soul has been involved in almost all of the greater wars and freedom rebelions. Usualy at the top of one side or another as a key player.

And I have come to believe that these last few lives Ive actualy[or atleast a part of me], wanted not to get involved n milltary action so I could persue other careers of interest. Then at the last minuit [rite before the "battle cry"] something happens to me that fills me with so much scorn and rage that I cant find any other safe outllet for the anger then to go into the war. And from their on the rest of each of these lives are consumed by a millitary career weather I wish it or not, except of course for the lives I fought for the "loosing side".

Ive also good reason to believe that its been the same soul these last few lives that's installed this madening anger into my heart.

As far as backround story of my upbringing goes,,,Since you have the same exact birthday as me it would be my pleasure to swap stories. Could I have your E-mail though? I prefer not to have that publicly posted.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 27, 2003 01:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. where did u get that from? Did u pull that out of a hat? kidding! Was it from ure dreams, psychic, astrological readings, magic? Where or how did u get that info?

If ure so convinced, then maybe u should join the marines. Just what are ure intentions? Do u intend to partake in the war just to unleash ure anger from past lives?

Sure u can have my email...can i get ures first?

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 27, 2003 02:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 27, 2003 03:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I've come to these conclusion from many things and many ways including Karmic tarot spreads [done by me and others],dreams, many fancies and interest since early childhood, my own ways of meditation, deja vus, and am still always looking into it.

What I realy need to do is work more towards past life regresion,,,to get a karmic total recall.

At first I imagine being in the infantry will get alot of my anger and rage out, more so for what has happened to me presently.

Then I have plenty of ideas for what to do after they pay for my schooling for a millitary career.

Preety much I beleive it to be one of my first birth rites to become a General or other if I so choose to take it. Even my chart easaly backs this up.

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