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PlayfulPonderingFishMoon
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posted November 05, 2003 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everybody,

I am getting the impression that there are a lot of seriously talented astrologers posting here, but even if you're not one of those yet, I am hoping that you can add a brief thought or two to this if you have time.

Do you find it very hard to connect with other people once they know just how much stock you put into things like astrology and the like?

If you are open about your interests that much, does it indeed make it more difficult to be taken seriously as a person by people who aren't as "into all of that?"

I find that I am about the only person that I know, whether in my daily life or online, who actually has this much interest in learning about the stars and their influences. And I guess that I am curious to know how some of you out there deal with having such a unique sort of interest like this one is?

Does it make you feel a little hurt that people maybe don't take you so seriously sometimes and what do you do about it at the times that it does?

Thanks for any replies to this.

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starflower
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posted November 05, 2003 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. I dont know anyone else who is interested in astrology. My best friend thinks its just nonsense. Or she did until earlier today - I posted under my Sag thread about her reaction to some info about a current relationship of mine. She was astonished how accurate it was.

But I dont think I will convert her!

I do get frustrated and sometimes hurt that my friends dont take it seriously.
Oh well I guess we all have each other here

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Cat
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posted November 05, 2003 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found that the people I know who "poo poo" astrology always change their mind...usually when they're going through a bad/difficult time - then they ask me "what's going on astrologically, is there a reason why this is happening to me, when will it end, etc etc"

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pidaua
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posted November 05, 2003 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear ya Cat!!!

I get the same thing. Especially from people in the scientific community that I am a part of, but then again they are like that with religion and spirituality as well.

Oh well, let them be narrowminded. I enjoy learning about all these new possibilities.

By the way Starflower, one of my staunchest critics is another Sag LOL..his wife though is more of an open minded Libra.

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Twin Lady
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posted November 06, 2003 11:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Playful - - that's an interesting question.

While my Mother was alive, she and I could and would discuss astrology till our hearts' content; both teaching and learning from oneanother. After she died (suddenly and unexpectedly), at first I felt like that part of me would be silenced forever, because I too, didn't know anyone around me who was as into astrology as I am. Luckily, I came online about three months later and began visiting the astrology chatrooms. The first online friend I made was a lovely older Aquarian lady who im'd me while in one of those chats. We have since exchanged phone numbers in e-mails, and keep in touch regularly both ways. There are also many message boards (like Lindaland, for example) where a student of astrology can come to find kindred souls to share with.

Now, tying in with the people around me: I don't know if it's because I have more self-confidence by knowing there are others in cyberland who share my passion for astrology or what, but I find myself bringing the subject up more often to those in my everyday life, when the opportunity presents itself. I am never offended by someone who doesn't "believe" in astrology (to each their own) nor does their cynicism stop me, lol...because I've discovered that even the critics will on occasion ask me an astrology-related question like, "Is Mercury retrograde or something?"...when they encounter some of the setbacks this RX can bring, or "How do *this* sign and *that* sign get along?"...and I have to smile inside when this happens.

A nice side effect my matter-of-fact attitude about my conviction that astrology works, has been the growing interest my two daughters have shown in it. So now, nearly fours years since my Mother passed, I have the opportunity to discuss astrology freely with my children, just like I used to with my Mom. Kind of like a legacy.

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PlayfulPonderingFishMoon
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posted November 16, 2003 01:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I just wanted to say a quick thanks to the people here who took the time to answer this question. I really appreciate it!

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moondreamer
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posted November 16, 2003 02:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only other person in reality that i can safely enjoy talking about astrology is my neighbour.Otherwise the other people I know aren't bothered about astrology and the like.They try to change the subject.How unenlightened they are.

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MaLiuk
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posted November 17, 2003 07:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya

when it comes down to it my best buddy always says "you can't bring it all down to the stars" which is only partly true. I'm not a truly skilled astrologer, far from, but I've seen/observed enough to know that the influence is undeniable so... yeah, most of the time I'm on my own with that too. People only follow to a certain level, as if they don't believe that bigger issues in life might have something to do with astrology.

Although I think there are loads of people out there who do hear ya ^_^ just look at this forum!

Robyn.

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lioneye68
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posted November 17, 2003 11:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just have to accept that your interest in Astrology is considered kind of 'left field' by the average person. That's because they've never been exposed to the depth of it. All they know is pop-culture's sun-sign predictions in the daily rag mag. You can't expect them to know anything beyond that, and therefore they CANNOT appreciate it for the volumnous body of knowledge, and powerful tool that it is.

I see this as an advantage, because I got them figured right out just by knowing their sun and moon signs. If they only KNEW how much that reveals about them...it's like having a second sight into people's hearts and souls that normal folks don't have.

Sometimes I feel like I know a person better than they know themselves. It can be quite empowering, but it can also be a burdon.

It takes a certain mind set to plunge into these types of subjects. You have to be a visionary, and you have to have faith in the life giving Intelligence of the universe. You have to give it all up to a power much greater than the individual. THAT'S what alot of people have trouble with. Giving up the reigns to a certain extent. They feel uncomfortable because they lack sufficient amounts of FAITH. Faith is contagious though. People with alot of it can inspire it in others.

...but as for the more narrowminded and stubborn folk...what can you do? Use it to your advantage. I've found that over time, if you keep chirping on about it to the people closest to you, they eventually learn quite a bit through osmosis, and in time, THEY'RE guessing peoples signs as well, and developing personality profiles of the various signs, based on their OWN experiences. You can't deny it once you see it at work, and that's all there is to it.

Besides, my quirky Aqua moon really doesn't mind being thought of as "out there" by friends and family.
*starts singing the Twilight theme song* do do do do do do do do

(not a good way to make a good impression on prospective employers or bank loan officer's, for example, mind you lol)


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trillian
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posted November 17, 2003 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all ignorance and objectivity! And by ignorance, I mean its true definition, which is 'lack of knowledge.' The poor word has been bastardized to mean 'rude.'

I think people who obsess over Nascar are a little 'out there.' I'll bet they have websites where they feel so misunderstood and can't understand why the rest of us just don't get it!

I know guys who simply must wear their team's jersey to football games or the team will lose!

My point is, to everything there is a purpose, a season, a time under heaven. Be comfortable with yourself and don't worry what the neighbors think!

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PhantasmMysteria
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posted November 18, 2003 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Playful,
I'm of the opinion that most people probably think me odd to be interested in astrology (especially living in the Bible Belt of the South), but I don't particular care what others think of me. I do, however, try to clear up whatever misconceptions someone may have to does take the time to ask me about my interest. I've often gotte into a discussion with another person just because I've casually said something like "he's such a Gemini," or something along those lines. And usually, the other person will mention how he doesn't believe in horoscopes (so I proceed to educate them on the OTHER influences involved in Astrology, aside from just the Sun). Or he might even ask me about my interest. Either way, I've at least presented Astrology in a more positive light then most people hold it.
Whatever.
That's my Libran Sun/ Aries Rising approach.... make them see BOTH sides of the issue, whether they want to or not!

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Motherkonfessor
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posted November 18, 2003 05:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When they don't take me seriously, I play my little pre cog game and guess their signs.
Just the sun of course.

I have about a 90% accuracy rate, and the look of shock when I am right is priceless.

After that, I pull out the science card.
Either I am very effective, or very intimidating. They at least see where I am coming from, and even if they dont agree, I can usually reach a common ground.......
(of course, i got a Libra Moon to help me out, along with Libra in my 11th house... i read somewhere that helps in groups of ppl, and usually I am defending astrology to at least 5 ppl at once.)

Yeah, my family gatherings are sooooooo fun.
Can I get a "black sheep" from anyone?

whooooo hoooooo thats my take on it all.

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grayheart
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posted November 18, 2003 04:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First I must admit that I am not the most social person (may sound odd coming from a gemini) so I don't run into these type things much, but I always figured that if i do, I would just ask them to give me a birthday of someone they know, not tell me who it is, or make sure it is someone I don't know but they do, then just use that to tell them the type of peronality that the person has, and I would be willing to bet that they will be more than impressed with the accuracy of the information. of course a lot of that would depend on my ability to read the information, whihc I am still learning that side of things

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Aphrodite
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posted November 18, 2003 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you find it very hard to connect with other people once they know just how much stock you put into things like astrology and the like?

on the contrary, it's been a lot easier to connect with people and knowing where they're coming from. as time went on, it became easier to see that what they were doing, were things i never experienced before (because say, i don't have venus in virgo, for example). the other plus is learning how to create space.

If you are open about your interests that much, does it indeed make it more difficult to be taken seriously as a person by people who aren't as "into all of that?"

nah.

I find that I am about the only person that I know, whether in my daily life or online, who actually has this much interest in learning about the stars and their influences. And I guess that I am curious to know how some of you out there deal with having such a unique sort of interest like this one is?

well, you know me. most of my friends know i am a bit off and cute at the same time. they love it. may be b/c i present it in such as a way that does not make it look threatening and fun. i don't pay attention when some make jokes b/c i then interpret this as "i know something that you don't." LOL.

Does it make you feel a little hurt that people maybe don't take you so seriously sometimes and what do you do about it at the times that it does?

with astrology, no.

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Tuesday
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posted November 19, 2003 12:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luckily all or most of my friends are really into it and love asking me questions about it, and I love giving them free analyses and teaching them about it, they are great students. A couple of them already know the basics (they're the ones who got me into it) so we have fun discussions. I'm not open about it with strangers, but I've asked coworkers their signs and they were all cool with it and had fun talking about their own signs. So I've been doing OK in general. However, with my family it's a different story since they are Jehovah's Witnesses (very Christian and Biblical) so I can't let on much about since they think it is Satanic and spiritism. I also don't talk about it with the other Witnesses but I do try to guess their signs and try to find out in less obvious ways, like asking how old they are and when they turn so and so (if they just give me a month that's usually enough) or they just bring it up in conversation and I make a note of it while thinking to myself "I KNEW she was a Scorpio!".

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Tuesday
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posted November 19, 2003 12:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What really bothers me is the stereotype. In the media (and by most people) astrologers are ALWAYS portrayed as flaky weirdos who dress in New Age garb. They act pretty ditzy and are ridiculed (and usually turn out to be wrong). It's the same way with psychics and anyone who's into the supernatural. I just hate stereotypes in general. (I even started writing a funny satirical play about stereotypes but never got around to finishing it.)

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sesame
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posted November 22, 2003 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Do you find it very hard to connect with other people once they know just how much stock you put into things like astrology and the like?

OK, I've never felt this personally, but sometimes I do seem to connect differently once I know what sun sign they are. It's like, if I can tell from afar, then it doesn't matter, but if I can't tell, and have to ask, then most likely they are not "stereotypical", and hence I don't "understand" who they are, if that makes sense. An example is someone in my tennis team. He's a capricorn, which I always find hard to guess anyway. He claims that he's very "wild", that he is not so much stable, but relies on his wife to provide stability. He used to drive around wondering when his fuel would run out, and then go fetch some. My mum's a "stereotypical" cappie, and she's nothing like this. Once I found out he was a cappie gave me heaps of questions. BUT, I could still get points for knowing he was aging "upside down" as all cappies do.

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If you are open about your interests that much, does it indeed make it more difficult to be taken seriously as a person by people who aren't as "into all of that?"

I'm a triple three and hence, "the joker and philosopher" so I'm used to this feeling. What annoys me is when people bring up what I've said out of context. At the time, I was most likely punning, or at least relating to recent events - not just spouting, but then they go: "you said this... I can't believe it!" - Get a Life! I know I said it, but it was in context. My point is that people are people.

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I find that I am about the only person that I know, whether in my daily life or online, who actually has this much interest in learning about the stars and their influences. And I guess that I am curious to know how some of you out there deal with having such a unique sort of interest like this one is?

Yes, it's like walking a path of light, when everyone is sitting in darkness. Also, everyone has different scales of knowledge. I don't know too much about stars, because personally I am too overwhelmed with their power and complexity. I love numbers though as they are simply and more "esoteric" - they have "less" influence over physical matter, because where are the numbers? How do they affect matter as such? They are truly Gods words, and hence may not be related to every one at this present time.

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Does it make you feel a little hurt that people maybe don't take you so seriously sometimes and what do you do about it at the times that it does?

When they laugh at me, I laugh back at them for different reasons. NEVER feel bad for being different or asking questions. Life is a uniques experience for everyone. Make yours the BEST!

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Thanks for any replies to this.

My Love to you Playfull Pondering Moon Fish for asking, and expecting us to know the answers!



Dean.

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