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proxieme
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posted November 25, 2003 08:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm picking up an extra shift at work in order to earn some holiday money, and so am going to give a holiday gift to all those who care to read:
Debbie Kempton-Smith's description of the Sun through the Houses, as detailed in _Secrets of a Stargazer's Notebook_.
As always, I will not write everything...because this is a fun book...and you should buy it.

Oh, and the desc.s will go up through the course of the night; I'm here til 11, so if you don't see yours before then, don't panic.


Oh, and if there are rampant typos...oh well. This keyboard sucks.
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SUN IN THE FIRST HOUSE
"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if I am for mine own self, what am I? And if not now, when?"

-Hillel the Elder

You're a personality kid. That's what you came her to do this lifetime...shine. People admire your arrogance.
Oddly, it is one of the hardest positions for the Sun, because the work is self-improvement on every level. You can't afford to behave in any way less than a god. You affect people profoundly with the sheer force of your personality. You might be a teacher, a salesman, or run your own business, but people won't let you get away with less than noble behavior. Act selfishly, use other people to build up your ego, and the house you have built comes tumbling down; all that is left is ashes, and yourself, and a sorry self at that. You may have had troubles with Daddy - look yourself in the mirror and remind yourself that you can be better than him. There are more people coasting on their slick egos who hate themselves with first house Suns than any other position. Learn to love yourself. The best way to do that is to be the brightest, shiniest, most self-confident character on the block. You don't do this by tearing other people down. Psychotherapy will help you.
A celebrity client with a first house Sun told his wife, "If you leave me, you'll never forgive yourself." She did leave him, and she did forgive herself.
There's a spark of god in you. Be brave and live up to it. Dare to throw off your neuroses! Remember, too, that you're supposed to believe you're the Christ. Just don't forget that everybody else is the Christ, too. There's a danger in your self-centeredness bordering on Divine Right. Polish up your character each day, then show off. People look up to you as an example.
Here's a chart of a guru in India who makes miracles happen in front of your eyes. Other first house Suns include Rita Hayworth, James Joyce, John Milton, Renoir, Sophia Loren. Can you think of a more individualistic bunch?
Look for a big smile on a first house person's face, resembling the grille of an Impala.


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posted November 25, 2003 08:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN IN THE SECOND HOUSE
"The greatest and most amiable privelage which the rich enjoy over the poor is that which they exercise the least - the privilege of making others happy."

- Charles Colton

Huh? Any road, this a wonderful place to have the Sun because your mission here is simple. The most spiritual thing you can do in this lifetime is make money. Quit trying to wrap your legs around your head, chuck out the Kalil Gibran jazz, and get busy.
Hold it...there's a qualifier. Have you ever known a time in the course of human events when there wasn't a catch? Yah, yah, it all depends on what you do with the money. Strangely, what you do with your money depends on your values. People born with the Sun in the second house are here to build inner values, of which dough-re-mi is a mere sniveling symbol.
You're the best equipped of all the Sun house positions to keep on keeping when the going gets impossible. Look at the odd assortment of determined specimens with Sun in the second. There's Karl Marx, Harry Houdini, Thomas More, Helen Hayes, Thomas Jefferson, Frank Sinatra, Mark Twain, Joseph Kennedy (the Daddy), Joe Stalin, George Lincoln Rockwell (leader of the American Nazi Party...yick), and Edgar Allen Poe.
Poor eld Eddie Poe. Somehow he managed to fight off grief and melancholia, kept those digits writing, and left us a legacy. Jefferson helped begin a nation based on new values. These second house Sun folks can leave a lasting legacy behind them when they go, whether it's a fortune, a building, kids with high ideals, or an enduring philosophy.
You are here to form stubborn values. You feel like imposing them on other people, usually. Whether you mean to or not, you're here to build an empire in the world or of the spirit. Take your time as you pick and choose your philosophies, for they will have a far-reaching effect even after your death.
I put Telly Savalas' chart in here because he always seemed to play charcters with strong values systems. I got the correct time of birth from his mama, before she had her coffee, so the time's right, but the Hollywood bios list different years for Telly...you know movie stars! I checked them out and this chart looked the most like him to me. He was a long-suffering, kind man.
Leonardo DiCaprio's performance in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?" knocked critics' and filmgoers' socks off. Then he radiated those selfless, shining values in the movie "Titanic" and rocketed to higher stardom. Jillions of adoring hysterical drooling fans, men and women, adore this kid. Like the Beatles in their day, Leo DiCaprio has the goods to deserve this weird adulation. But it is a hard day's work, one imagines, to keep digging for sensible values whilst continually working one's way through the phonies - and sometimes, sensibly, enjoying them.

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posted November 25, 2003 08:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN IN THE THIRD HOUSE
"Perhaps each life has one sensational thought, if acted upon will bring great meaning."

- Michael R. Baer

Student of life, when will you ever stop asking questions? You love to interview people, so people adore you. You know the secret of popularity - getting people talking about themselves. Let them give you half a chance and you'll talk them under the table - there's nothing boring about you.
You hear God on the radio, and you give great telephone. You're here to learn a little about alot, crank it around for awhile, then spit it back out to the rest of us. You're the messenger, which makes you a writer, teacher, an actor purveying the ideas of other people. If you work on it a little, you're the master of words and can pick up languages, too. One woman I know with a third house Sun can say, "Where's the toilet?" in nineteen languages. Comes in handy.
This commerical ear and love of the everyday marketplace might make your thinking a little superficial, but you can avoid this trap by constant learning. Cary Grant with his impeccable romantic repartee and Picasso's shrewd commercial and artistic eye embody the third house Sun principle. Other third housers are Hugh Hefner, Abraham Lincoln, Eugene O'Neill, William Penn, Albert Schweitzer, Isaac Newton, Jerry Lewis, and Hermann Goering. You can't say they aren't original thinkers; even Goering was, the rotten one in the barrel.
Here's Rod Stewart's horoscope. He may just seem sexy and too much the wild rock'n'roller to you, but he's a hell of a songwriter. Listen to "Mandolin Wind" sometime. Note also the void-of-course Moon in his chart.

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posted November 25, 2003 09:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN IN THE FOURTH HOUSE
"One man with courage makes a majority."

- Andrew Jackson

You're a hoot owl. This is the house of midnight madness; there is no limit or bottom to your feelings or the depth of your soul. You feel as if you're pitted against tradition or the Establishment. You're supposed to feel that way if you have a fourth house Sun. You are here to change society in a unique, personal way. Yehundi Menuhin, Martin Luther, Leo Tolstoy, Kahlil Gibran, T.E. Lawrence, Howard Hughes, Jesse James, and Joseph Goebbles all have Sun in there. It seems to go with the kind of original thinking people do in the deep of the night.
This house is loaded with Freudian undertones. No one can fully plumb its depths, but shrinks have a ball with patients who have a planet or two there. Unhappy fourth house Sun folks get stuck in tradition or try to live their lives as Mummy and Daddy did. This may be fine for other folks, but it is lethal for a fourth house Sun.
You must create your own emotional network. you regard your friends as family, introduce everyone to each other, then complain happily that you're living in Peyton Place. Make your own traditions. Tell society to go hang and stick to your own principles. What's important to you is emotional depth, and you'd feed or shelter anyone who deserves it. You ought to have a home, or a hunk of land, but the ideal crashpad comes later in life. You're good a real estate and agriculture.
Sun in the fourth house gives you an intuitive understanding of human nature. Many of these folks are more than a little psychic. The example chart belongs to Al. H. Morrison, one of the world's greatest astrologers. He lived in Manhattan, but he sneaked into churchyards to plant flowers when nobody was looking. He taught baby astrologers how to do research, to give credit to others, how to study new planets, to give many freebies, how to make magazines, newsletters, moons and asteroids and Chirons on next to no money, how to be so generous that others flip and act generous themselves, how to fight for better astrology, to avoid In-Crowds, cults, and cliques, to write to scientists and priests and presidents and Big Shots, to not only comfort, but also to befriend the bereaved and broken. He showed baby astrologers how to listen, not be "question shooters", bo be fiercely on the client's side. When clients told their stories, the only question Al would permit himself to ask was, "Oh?" We will not see his like again.

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posted November 25, 2003 09:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN IN THE FIFTH HOUSE
"If you would create something, be something."

- Goethe

You're creative. Acting, painting, weaving, writing, lecturing, coloring Easter eggs and doodling on notepads come out of your ears and nostrils. You are the Pied Piper and can work miracles with children. You take the play apart in Darien and make it a hit on Broadway. You could learn to be a show-off and you should, for you're nothing until you love yourself. Grab the applause and live your life in a way that makes you proud. Then teach the rest of us how to love each other. You may have many lovers or a mate who is your pride and joy, but you must love.
Since you're such a big kid, you thrive in pleasure centers, resorts, pinball arcades, the social circuit, showbiz, and anywhere you can speculate, like the Stock Exchange, which is full of big baby brokers. Folks with this Sun position enjoy playing the child; if you find your close ties playing "parent" roles, do remember that you're here to be creative, not childish.
God stuck you here on earth to be sunny, dammit, to experience joy and give it out to the rest of us. The catch for you is that the human race, by and large, does not live in joy. You've got to do it at work, at home, in Calcutta, or on the subway. We need you, so hurry up and believe in your many talents. Sing us a song, give us a cuddle, cheer us up, love us.

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posted November 25, 2003 09:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, one more for tonight, and them I'm cutting Jason out a bunch of colored-in roses and writing him a letter.

SUN IN THE SIXTH HOUSE
"Genius is infinite painstaking."

- Henry Wordsworth Longfellow

Oh, nobly born, you have the most underrated and most misunderstood Sun position of them all. You deserve the Nobel Prize, but you're too dearly humble and hard at work to go looking for it. Give us a kiss!
You are the salt of the earth, a true idealist, here to make the world better right here and now. Work is your god. You don't use work as way of avoiding your family or so the Joneses will envy your new Mercedes - you work because you beleive in what you do with all your soul, and you do it better than anyone else. You put your ideals into practice every day. You want people to be healthy, to be educated, and to have enough to eat, and you can't rest until you've done your bit to improve the quality of life for humankind.
John Keats, John Lennon, Dr. Carl Jung, General Patton, and Alfred Hitchcock all had two things in common: they had a sixth house Sun and they worked like the devil. You can streamline a factory or make the perfect movie, fix Mrs. Castle's washing machine or teach first aide at the Y; and you can do more. Your talents are without limit. This worries you, because people with this Sun position are always looking for the perfect job, without realizing that they are the perfect job. The may change jobs often, but this a strength, not a weakness.
You'll never find the one occupation that sums you up any more than a beautiful woman finds the one dress to lie in all her life. You are Hanuman, the perfect servant of the Lord. Pat yourself on the back. You do a meticulous job wherever you go. Get vocational guidance if you're young or old, and realize that you're here to improve your surroundings. Great human beings are never satisfied.

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posted November 25, 2003 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic! Finally something nice about Sixth house Suns! Alfred Hitchcock was brilliant, and Carl Jung too? All that and I'm a winner too? Well thank you! Muhammed Ali is a 6th house Too. John Lennon speaks poetry straight to my heart. Another winner. Nice to know why I feel I have so much in common with these great people.

According to the indian vedic system here are some more interesting descriptions.
 
Sun House http://www.geocities.com/indastro/house-sun.html
SUN:

In the First house. – Righteous- minded , healthy, bilious, eye-disease, intelligence, good morals, political success, stately appearance, humanitarian instincts, lazy in work, fond of daring deeds, hot constitution, careless of reputation, string will, caprice, generosity, neglect of personal credit or respect, good work, not combative or impetuous and pioneering.

Second house. – Diseased face, ugly, losses from prosecution good earnings, inclined to waste, bright speech, enquiring, well-educated, scientific, stubborn and peevish temper, danger in the 25th year, will stammer.

Third house. – Courageous, liberal, adventurous, famous, intelligent, wealthy, successful and restless.

Fourth house. – Mental worry, meditative defective organs, success in foreign countries, hatred of relations, keen-minded, sensitive, good reputation, success after middle age, quarrels without causes, weak constitution, introspective, unhappy, philosophical, squanders paternal property.

Fifth house. – Intelligent, poor, few children, paternal danger, corpulent, danger to father early, unhappy, disturbed in mind, lover of fine arts, and tactful in decision.

Sixth house. – Defier of customs and castes, good administrative ability, few cousins and few enemies, bold a successful, war-like, licentious, wealthy, gain from enemies, clever in planning, terror to enemies, executive ability, colic troubles.

Seventh house. – Late marriage and rather troubled, loose morals and irreligious, hatred by the fair sex, fond of traveling, submissive to wife, wealth through female agency, fond of foreign things, discontented, wife’s character questionable, subservient to women and risk of dishonour and disgrace through them.

Eighth house. – Well read in solar sciences, attracted by sublime phenomena, charitable, godly, lucky and successful, devoted, ordinary health, little patrimony, dutiful sons, a man of action and thought, self-acquired property, many lands, philosophical, glandular disease, lover of poetry and music, successful agriculturist, learned in esoteric and occult subjects, ambitious and enterprising.

Ninth house. – Well read in solar sciences, attracted by sublime phenomena, charitable, godly, lucky and successful, devoted, ordinary health, little patrimony, dutiful sons, a man of action and thought, self-acquired property, many lands, philosophical, glandular disease, lover of poetry and music, successful agriculturist, learned in esoteric and occult subjects, ambitious and enterprising.

Tenth house. – Bold, courageous, well known, famous, clever in acquiring wealth, superior knack, healthy, learned, adventurous, educated, quick decision, fond of music, founder of institutions, high position, dutiful sons, much personal influence, successful military or political career .

Eleventh house. – Learned, wealthy, stately and persevering, success without much effort, famous, many enemies, wealth through fair means, good reputation, profound insight, capacity to befriend, many political enemies, man of principles, great sagacity, great success and position.

Twelfth house. – Sinful, poor, fallen, thieving nature, unsuccessful, adulterous, neglected, long limbs, ceremonial minded and lover of esoteric and occult knowledge, no happiness from children.

Take it with a grain of salt.

Natasha
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posted November 27, 2003 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Prox...remember this little project? Just trying to help.

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posted November 27, 2003 09:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I remember - It's THANKSGIVING, though

I might finish it up Friday, or I'm working a slow 8-hour shift Saturday and will definitely finish it then.

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SUN IN THE SIXTH HOUSE
"Difficulties in negotiation do not occur because the parties misunderstand one another - difficulties arise because the parties understand one another all too well."

- Dr. Henry Kissenger

You're on an easy wicket if you pick the right people to hang out with if this is your Sun position. But if you choose the wrong mate or business partner you'll be pushing a boulder up the mountain, darling. Learn to draw th eline somewhere or you'll forever be pandering to other people's tastes. One man picked a weird yoga teacher and even gave one of his children a weird yoga name bedause he found out the guru was cruel and crooked.
You can persuade anyone to do anything, so you might as well be a diplomat, an interior designer, a general, or a dictator. You like a merry circus of people around you. It looks chaotic from the outside, but youi love stirring people up and calming them down. You excel in the one-to-one relationship, and you can have one-to-ones with three dozen people, and you prefer things that way. You're a social butterfly, and you must have a mate or an idea you're in love with or you can't feel fulfilled. You may be an artist; you are certainly an artist with other people.
Sigmund Freud, Patrick Henry, Bobby Kennedy, Adolf Hitler, and Charles Manson are famous examples of seventh housers. about all they have in common is powerful charisma and the ability to affect others deeply, changing other people's lives. Hitler and Manson might have had a better crack at expressing themselves had they learned in childhood how to form peer relationships, which is the work of the seventh house. You're not supposed to feel better than or lesser than other people. What you're here to do is to join with other people, to join people with ideas, or ideas with ideas. Like John Coltrane.
You're a super organizer, a political animal, and can be wildly popular. Like Diana's baby boy.

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SUN IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE
" The thing was deep in him. He was too strong and alive for it to die lightly."

F. Scott Fitzgerald

You eat crisis for breakfast. The afrorementioned F. Scott Fitzgerald, Galileo, John Glenn, Henry the Eighth, Helen Keller, Jack Kennedy, James Pike, Rachmaninoff, and both Rockefellers, John D. and Nelson, are eighth house Sun types. Some are tycoons, all are psychologists, soe have conquered Self, and all of them have power.
The houe of many talents, of Destiny, of Fate, of mysteries wonderous makes you feel alone. The eighth house is the house of self-reliance, the ability to stand alone with one's principles. Then the eighth house makes you give it all up to fully merge with Destiny. You blow it if you don't have a deep, one-to-one, fully committed relationship with one other person. The deep relationship is your Holy Grail. You attain by penetrating life's mysteries; two people merge for a time, then stand alone, merge, then stand alone. Each merging with the partner is a surrender to Something Up There, and you must do it, and develop self reliance to boot! What's more, it must be done again and gain with the same partner if it is to have any kind of depth. Sex is only one symbol of sharing emotions. You may handle other people's money or other people's lives. But it is you who has the power to change yourself and transform others.
Nelson Rockefeller had a loaded eighth house. He did inherit a few bob, but a true eighth houser he was, so he made his own merits and mistakes. The psychic Edgar Cayce was born here, too, in the rarest time for people to be born, when the sun is slanting sadly across park benches in late afternoon, when we contemplate our own mortality. The eighth gives intuition and a direct pipeline to the Infinite. Cayce was convinced of our immortality.

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SUN IN THE NINTH HOUSE
"Free will is not the liberty to do whatever one likes, but the power of doing whatever one sees ought to be done, even in the face of otherwise overwhelming impulse. There lies freedom, indeed."

- G. MacDonald

Two activities bring out the best in you: travel and mind expansion. Yo might even be happier living in a foreign country, if other factors in your horoscope indicate this. At least you will travel widely, and if you're broke or paralyzed, these circumstances won't stop you. You'll study the world from your armchair, and pretty soon the kids will start calling you professor. You're a grand teacher when you get going.
This Sun position could make you a lawyer, a talk-show host, a travel agent, a hippie, a diplomat, or the local sage. It will give you a big mouth, but a well-considered, educated one!
Not too many people are born this time of day; chances are you'll have some rare experiences not often encountered in everyday life. Your life and your mind may be richer for being rarer; most people are born between midnight and dawn.
You want to more from life than Joe Bloggs down the road. You'll take risks to get the things you want, and much of what you want can't be measured in pounds and pennies. What you really seek is the bird's-eye view, noticing the common thread that runs through varying peoples and cultures. Your mission in life is to study philosophy, religion, and ethics. You will probably eat a lot of foreign food and see a lot of weird stuff. Your job is to digest it all, then broadcast it back to us. We're waiting to hear about your discoveries in freedom.
Famous fearless ninth housers are Henry Miller, Nasser, Rudolph Nureyev (who leaped to freedom), Nostradamus, Princess Grace of Monaco, and Christine Jorgenson, the first transsexual.

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SUN IN THE TENTH HOUSE
"It is not titles that reflect honor on men, but men on their titles."

- Machiavelli

I courted fame but as a spur to brave and honest deeds; who despises fame will soon renounce the virtues that deserve it."
- Mallet

You choose to live your life in a goldfish bowl. You're here to set an example to us, so you become the pillar of the community. The price you pay for this stardom is not so high - the only thing you pay is living your life as if a television camera were trained on you twenty-four hours a day. You feel as if Someone Up There is watching you. She is. All you have to do is find a noble career, grow a bigger, nobler personality than any career could contain you with, and act as if the whole world is watching.
You asked to be a big shot, sweetheart, and you'll enjoy every minute of it as long as you keep your actions exemplary. Tenth house Sun people (or any planets in the tenth house, for that matter) can't get away with nuthin'. (Typer's Edit: *10th House Mars, Jupiter, and NN sighs*). The gory details always leak out.
Don't be afraid to be the power you long to be. You're good at power if you had a sweet Mama. This is another loaded house for psychologists to explore; tenth house Sun folks have to overcome their identification with their mothers before they can go on to success. Success is your birthright. As the good old I Ching says, "Shine like the sign at midday." That's when you were born.
Famous examples of this larger-than-life, living-example-to-the-masses condition are Ivan the Terrible, Errol Flynn, Rose Kennedy, Janis Joplin, Nikita Krushchev, Martin Luther King, Van Gogh, and Napolean.
We'll use two of the more admirable tenth house Sun types for you to study. Number one is Ben Franklin, and number two is the ever-delicious philosopher/sage, Ram Dass.

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SUN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE
"A real friend is someone who sticks by you even when you become successful."

- Fortune Cookie

Dream big or die, that's you. You believe to the core that you're here to affect what goes on in your community. You can. You're a superb team player (with a bit of practice), and you're never happier than when you pool in with your friends on a big project. Friends mean the world to you, and sometimes you have a rough time of it just to find friends who match your specific ideals, but you must keep trying to find them. You're okay about your blood ties, but it's more of a challenge to you to love the people you adopt, who are like family to you. At times you may feel as if you're living in a commune. Sometimes eleventh housers do live in a commune, like Allan Noonan, the outer-space guru who communes with flying saucers. Eleventh housers aren't afraid to look into unorthodox subjects.
If you're a little twisted, you can let your heavy influential friends get the better of you. The trick here is to remember you're part of a group, neither better than or worse than others. Remember how unique you are...in fact, you've a rare ability to project a particular character oir image. In an actor or public figure, the ability to be recognized is an asset. Don't be fooled by your own stereotyped image - that public image can turn into a coffin that stifles your growing, changing personality if you let it. Sorround yourself with unique oddballs, and be one yourself - to the hilt. Whether you're a corporate boy or a member of a rock-'n'-roll band, you feel more like you in a crowd. Social skills are important, as you'll spend considerable time convincing others to go along with your schemes. Don't let those dreams slip away. Save those whales.
Some world-saving eleventh housers: Jackie Gleason, Billy Graham, John Hancock, Marshal Tito, Eleanor Roosevelt, Douglas MacArthur, Bob Hope, Marconi, and Spiro Agnew.

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SUN IN THE TWELFTH HOUSE
"When joyously led, the people forget their burdens; in wrestling joyously with difficulties, they even forget that they must die. Joy's greatest quality is the encouragement it affords the people."

- I Ching, Blofeld edition

There is a wind in Germany they call the fuhrn. It is an ill, dry wind, and when it blows it makes you want to jump out of the windows and rip out the doors. I went to high school in the Furth, a gray, hideously provincial suberb of Nurnburg, and a more goddammed depressed burg you'd never want to see. In winter the fog rolls low, in lumps, coming down the street at you in early morning. Henry Kissenger was born there, and he was glad to get out of there, too. He was born with a twelfth house Sun. He have me his birth info so I could make sure.
This is an extraordinary Sun position, for it bestows great power and prevents you from fully using it. Dr. Kissenger could never become president of the United States because he was born overseas. Criminals, sages, and coo-coos have twelfth house suns. You'll find philosophers, rabbis, psychiatrists, and saints here, too.
Do you remember that old Twilight Zone one in which the guy gets captured by extra-terrestrial gorillas and they hvae a book called To Serve Man that no one can translate? The man thinks they're idealists and gets into the spaceship; at the last moment he discovers it's a cookbook. That's the predicament of the twelfth house Sun person. You get screwed unless you listen to the inner voice and help your fellow man. You don't feel like other people. It has you live in an eggshell, a spacesuit that subtly isolates you from other people. This isolation is a sign of specialness. No other Sun position is better equipped for helping people with their emotional problems. You can get inside another person's skin and visit for a little while. Lawrence Olivier's twelfth house Sun helped him become his characters.
Mao Tse-Tsug, Tchaikovsky, Steve McQueen, Audrey Hepburn, Henry Fonda, Havelock Ellis, Judy Garland, Robert Mitchum, William Randolph Hearst, Mahatma Ghandi...these are twelfth housers. It is a distinguishing characteristic of the twelfth house Sun person to believe that she is here to serve humanity. Of course, you don't have to agree with them, but that's how these people feel!
Don't let the old-fogey astrology books scare you with lines like "the twelfth house is the house of hospitals and self-undoing." Most of the folks born with this Sun position are as healthy as horses. You might want to work in a hospital or an institution, or you may just let your friends cry on your shoulder a lot.
The first chart is Jean MacArthur's, a highly gifted Washington, DC psychic. She preferred to live at the Watergate in nearby Alexandria, away from the distracting noise of the town. Her psychic abilities were well-verified by scientists, and her office was stewn with signed photos from people you and I would call Very Big Deals. Jean had a mile-long waiting list, but somehow she could always make time for the poor, the sick at heart, the man with no kidneys, the crippled girl who wanted a family.
The other chart is of a fireman, a handsome young buck from Philadelphia. It doesn't occur to him that he's a hero, though he's in the business of saving lives every day. He's just your ordinary, common-variety everyday saint, is all.

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Thanks for those Prox they're brilliant! so accurate! (11th house sun speaking here!)

YAY

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"You must create your own emotional network. you regard your friends as family, introduce everyone to each other, then complain happily that you're living in Peyton Place. Make your own traditions. Tell society to go hang and stick to your own principles."

That is pretty much what I like to do best. The first description of the Sun in the 4th house I can relate to.

*jumps happily*

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Hi Prox,
I've posted lots of her stuff here, like in the thread about Leos and Cats--it's such a fun book! My best friend and I simply refer to it as "the purple book!"

She's a hoot and charges about $300 to interpret your chart.

9th house sun here, btw.

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About Sun in the 9th House:

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Not too many people are born this time of day

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most people are born between midnight and dawn

Really?

Anyway, 9th Sun is so definitely moi

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posted August 17, 2006 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in the 4th right on!

Great info! Thanks for posting it.

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Hey so true!!!
Sun in the 11th house here!!

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Sun in 6th-true true.

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posted August 17, 2006 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in the 1st here- makes purrrfect sense to me

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Interesting stuff.

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Thanks for posting that. Sun in the Twelfth is definitely right on.(heart)

~Rebekka

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