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esull2002
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posted December 02, 2003 09:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, this is going to be a rambling, thinking out loud type of question...

i have a taurus sun, aquarius moon, and a libra rising. in each of them i see characteristics that describe me, but i also see many that don't. i read about the characteristics of all signs and in each one the same thing happens. some of the characteristics of all signs fit me and some don't...i even have the characteristics of signs that i have none of in my chart.

does this happen to everyone? and if so doesn't that kinda like downplay the importance or accuracy of astrological influence, and the effect it has on people? i don't know it's just something i've always had on my mind. don't get me wrong though, astrology really intrigues me and i find a lot of it to be true.

maybe my chart would have some answers as to why this happens.

may 11th, 1985 at 4:55 PM
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pixelpixie
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posted December 02, 2003 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have often felt that way, but if it had any lasting impression, I obviously wouldn't be posting here, and wouldn't find it so intriguing an interest. I find the important things, per each sign's characteristics, tend to show up in the negative manifestations for me. For instance, I am a scorpio sun, with Leo rising.... So, when I am angry, or the reasons why I am angry, I really see the scorp influence there. Blinding anger, jealousy, possessiveness, I really have to guard against these when lit in me. That is what feels accurate to me.... the highest highs and the lowest lows.... when we are at our 'rawest'emotionally. When it is primal. That is when natural characteristics that are eerily similar to those written about countless times, become accurate. My Leo influence arises when I feel absolute protectiveness over someone, when I want to give my everything and fight claw and 'stinger' for the underdog, even if it is me. When I am slighted at work or love, my areas of pride swell and I want to riccochet it in their face for not recognizing how valuable I am.
I think in general, the way I talk and present myself isn't very Scorpio. I do have that 'deepness', or air of mystery, but I only hold some things back. I enjoy sharing myself with people, which tends to be a not very typical scorpio thing. I don't see things so black and white, more layered.... not very typical. But I have alot of very typical scorpio traits as well. Some aren't a source of pride, but I try. Who's perfect?

I should say though, based upon how you worded your question, I see the fixedness of two of your main signs, but also very Libran qualities too. The Aquarian wonderment and the Libran questions.... finding what works.... the Taurean tendancy to want something tactile and visual and concrete before believing in validity. That alone makes me validate my belief. Also, to further my tendancy to talk things from all angles ( Mercury Libra!) It is easy to see parts of yourself in the whole picture of everything in the world, really. It is the empathic human condition. I may not understand whole things or concepts, as I can not live them, but parts of them will fit well, and parts I can visualize. That's a good thing, it is humanitarianism at it's most positive, and it is good to see parts of you in everything, as you ARE in everything. Even if you aren't supposed to be.......

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lllog
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posted December 03, 2003 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Sun, Moon, & ASC are very important individually, but it is the Gestalt of the three plus other planets and aspects that indicate one's character.

Lanny

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pidaua
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posted December 03, 2003 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie and Lanny are totally right!!!

In any event, just like a personality test (for example the Meyers-Briggs evaluation) is open for interpretation, it only gives the person predisposition towards traits, it is not set in stone.

At times our personality is colored with influences from our environment and different elements can be expressed stronger than others. Where you planets lie in your chart has great influence as does your Sun, Moon and Rising sign.

There are times that my Sag Sun is all happy and go-lucky then I am in a new situation and My Virgo rising gets quiet and analytical.

Does that make sense?

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lioneye68
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posted December 03, 2003 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
esull, every human contains all the characteristics found within the entire zodiak. Do you have to be a Leo to be proud of something? Do you have to be a Saggie to feel restless and want to see the world? Do you have to be a Pisces to feel another's pain? Do you have to be a Libra to weigh out pros and cons before making a decision? Of course not, to any of these examples. We are all ALL of these things from time to time, as circumstances call for it. To be a Libra means you're stronger at weighing out pros and cons and it's part of your nature to do that, but it doesn't mean only Libra's are able to do this. And it doesn't mean you won't ever make a rash decision without weighing out all possible outcomes, much like an Aries would. No one sign has a monopoly on any given characteristic. The more enlightened you are, the more pragmatic you are able to be in responding to the world around you, which means drawing on whatever quality is best for the situation.

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grayheart
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posted December 03, 2003 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just be sure to remember that above all else free will will reign. The more you understand and know about astrology, the more you will find that it does not seem to match with your personality, this is because you will come to understand as has been said that these are TENDENCIES, not traits. Knowledge of what tendencies there are will allow your free will empowered self to override the tendencies when they are negative and embrace them when positive. So the longer you study these things the more you will find that you do not follow the descriptions to the letter. Those who ignore the tendencies, are the ones who fit them most. If you were in a boat in a whirlpool and you ignored it or were not aware, you would surely sink, but if you know you are in a whirlpool, you can take steps to either escape, or at least stay out of the center, and so continue to remain on the surface. The same is true of Astrology, it is like a whirlpool, those who ignore it are subject to it's pull, but those who are, can choose not to be sucked under as it were.

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lioneye68
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posted December 05, 2003 02:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I call that stage where you feel like you're all signs in one package "Feelin' like a Fish", coined by Prox in referrence to a thread I started called "I feel like a Pisces sometimes". I think we get to a point where we become so familiar with and have so much respect for all the signs and their various strengths and m.o.'s that we try to emulate them when situations remind us of those qualities. It's a beautiful thing to be this way because it makes you very adaptable and , well...enlightened.

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esull2002
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posted December 06, 2003 05:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another thing i just noticed and a question

my south node is scorpio, which means my north node is taurus, and my sun sign is taurus, and taurus and scorpio are obviously opposites, so does this lead you to believe that i'll have difficulties? and if so what kind?

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pixelpixie
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posted December 06, 2003 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course you'll have difficulties, everyone does. The normal kind. ( sorry, I just wanted to be a smart-a$$ I'm in a playful mood!

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esull2002
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posted December 06, 2003 06:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bah, i don't even care because i feel that i can be anything depending on my mood. it's just that i can't get my mind off of this once i start reading about it, it just hassles me. it's like an unwanted obsession, it makes me question my self identity, which i don't really have a clue about in the first place, but i have ideals . it really ****** me off.

also, everytime i make a thread or a post i don't wanna go back to check it because i get embarrased for some reason. so that's why i don't reply and say thanks for the responses. but... thanks.

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lioneye68
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posted December 06, 2003 06:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we all get embarressed by some of our own posts now and then. Thank goodness for the edit function, though. Lord knows I'VE used it many many times.

As for the N.Node/S.Node thing...the two are ALWAYS in opposing signs, it can't be any other way. They say the the S.Node represents where you've been (on a soul level, like past life experiences) and the N.Node represents where you're going. (ie what you're striving to become) The fact that your N.Node is conjunct your sun, tells me that you've got a leg up in that pursuit. What aspects does your sun make to the rest of your planets?

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astro junkie
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posted December 06, 2003 07:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Esull:

I've got quite a mix of planets including what's called a T-square. Left to my own devices and having remained in my immature reactionary phase, I would have done myself in.

I believe there's sort of one thing we all have in common, and that is to reach a point we all have in ourselves... that of being "witness". Once removed from the reactionary trap, find your center, like you feel when you meditate and all your chakras are in line, that kind of thing. Then as things are occuring around you, it gives you a breather before you take action. Does that make sense?

Me personally, I treat my chart/planets/etc., as if it were an all-in-one, handy-dandy, chop-it-slice-it-and-dice-it machine.

If I'm around someone who needs my complete sympathy and discretion, I pull out the Moon in Cancer. If I need to check out whether an advertising deal is too good to be true, I pull out my Mars in Scorpio. If the mood is light, yet I'm surrounded by a bunch of clowns, I play up my Socratic Libra Sun.

I think of my center, when it is balanced, as the neutral part of all this. That's why I believe we all have that "neutral" part. Get there and then you'll begin to appreciate each unit for its own merit, and soon understand how to coordinate them and feel more sychronized...

with love & support,

.gloria

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esull2002
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posted December 06, 2003 07:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Square Moon(aquarius)
Sun Square Jupiter(aquarius
Sun Opposition Saturn(scorpio)

i knew that the n node and the s node are always opposites, but i figured that since my sun is in taurus, and my s node is in scorpio(how i've been in past lives that's carried over to this life)...and since taurus and scorpio are opposites, that it would make for some kind of EXTRA complications. because my n node is what i need to learn how to be, and that is in taurus, and my sun is in taurus...i don't know, i am confusing myself.

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Pisces Moon
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posted December 11, 2003 12:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget we ALL have ALL the signs in our horoscope - each house is a different sign (using Equal House system like Linda).

So if your third house is Pisces you tend to think like a Pisces (while not forgetting Mercury, planets in 3rd and Neptune the ruler of 3rd house).

I think too many astrology students forget this important nuance in chart delineation.

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astro junkie
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posted December 11, 2003 12:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces Moon:

I've never learned anything about what you are saying, but I'm checking out Linda's books from the library to go over again. It's been ummmm... about 22 years since I've read her stuff. Sometimes you have to go back to the basics!

Is there anything else about what you are saying, or is it coming from Linda sources?

Thanks,

.g

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lioneye68
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posted December 11, 2003 03:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
esull, you have your sun conjunct (at least by sign, by orb too?) your N.Node, and Saturn conjunct (again, by sign/orb?) your S.Node? You already ARE what you're striving to be, and you'll have little difficulty leaving your past comfort zone behind. The sun is your driving force, your heart's intention in life, and Saturn is where you're inhibited, or at the very least tread very cautiously, right? Both of those planets are ideal to be conjunct your north and south nodes, me thinks!! So, that obviously means you're not here to fulfill your n/s node issues, you've got another gig going on...wonder what..?..Hmmmm.

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astro junkie
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posted December 11, 2003 02:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
esull:

Hope you don't mind my asking, but I was not able to tell from your posts. Are you a guy or girl? I ask because my inquiries here lately are regarding a guy I really like who is Taurus with Aq Moon too.

Please tell...

Thanks,

.g

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esull2002
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posted December 12, 2003 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a guy =)

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astro junkie
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posted December 12, 2003 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK...

Wow... I've met two people here who are Taurus with Aq Moon. You also have Venus in Aries. All three match my guy friend, the reason for my inquires here in the first place.

Only this he was born 1974, and I'm older, so you... well... can I pick your brain a bit? What sign combinations have you had the BEST success with and which ones the WORST?

What's going on relationship-wise? If you don't feel like saying, that's totally cool. Is it true that you are comfortable with lost flower-child types? Talk to me...

.gloria

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