posted February 03, 2004 07:57 PM            

So me and the Sag guy again (he unknown Asc/ Pisces Moon/Cap venus and mars)

Can you please explain to me about this thing with the Sag about how you just literally seem to say whatever you are thinking?Like you dont take time to consider what you say, it just pops out the minute your head thinks of it?

I love my Sag guys directness, but I find this a little complicated. He gives lots of compliments, its just like his mouth is saying his thoughts out loud, but then sometimes, he says something that cuts me.

Me Aqua Sun/Cancer Moon (ouchies!!)./Leo Asc.

for example, we spent some time together yesterday.He said "i've really enjoyed it and its also stopped me getting stuck in traffic"

I was like "what?" so he said "well us having some time together like this, I missed the busiest time for traffic, its a bonus"

posted February 03, 2004 11:02 PM              

Cancer Moon to the rescue for ya!

What's his birthdate? Interested in what his Mercury is in.

In meantime, here's something to consider. I'm almost already 100% sure that this particular Sag is looking for a girl who is down on her luck who he can save.

Your Cancer Moon would love nothing more. But your VERY independent Aqua Sun is much to independent. Your Moon and Sun have it out regularly. Ultimately, as Linda says, you will remain true to your Sun.

His humor isn't to be taken too seriously. But he CAN seem to be a bit of a brute to a girl who has an independent streak.

Look at it this way. At least with this guy, what you see is what you get, which is a very rare thing.

.gloria

posted February 04, 2004 10:31 AM              

Sags don't like a lot of emotional fuss and feel they are being manipulative, so they draw back at moments of extreme emotion. They like the idea of romance but if it gets sticky or upsetting, they get their feelings hurt too, so they draw back before they can be hurt-emotionally.

Maybe you were getting under his skin? I wouldn't take it too personally, he probably likes you a lot and you are getting to him in a deep way.

My Cancer moon reacts more like paranoia about not having enough stuff or money, or comfort, it doesn't get really upset about comments unless it's followed by a cruel action. I wish I could be more sensitive-verbally. If someone is down on me about something I've done, then I get POed. It takes a while to sink in as I have developed a tougher skin, probably due to my 8th house moon which entertains angry thoughts, so I stop it.

Still I don't like comments like, you're crazy, or shut up, off the cuff like that, that's not very respectful to me. Pisces moons tend to ramble too remember, they can't control their mouths.

posted February 04, 2004 10:35 AM            

That was interesting what you said about Pisces moons. This guy is the original chatterbox but he does have Sag in Merc too!!

He absolutely did not intend to hurt me, I know this, but I dont understand how he can not THINK before he opens that cute and sexy mouth of his.

posted February 04, 2004 10:39 AM            

I have to say, from a Saggie point, you over-reacted. Only because we like to look at the positive of many angles. I think what you heard from his words was "Yeah, you were only there to keep me from traffic and if there was no traffic then you wouldn't have been necessary" (that is what is heard through the Cancer moon filter - I know because both my parents have Cancer moons).

Now, what he meant was - being with you was not only great, but I got to miss traffic..not meaning anything rude. BUT, it probably wasn't a necessary comment and that is the hoof in mouth disease we seem to suffer from.

I have Merc in Capricorn and it doesn't stop me from saying really weird things. I also think there is a fundamental difference in what men say versus what us women hear.

posted February 04, 2004 11:18 AM            

This is the first close relationship that I've had with a Sag, and my Aqua Sun really really likes a lot of his personality. You and I spoke a while ago about my Cancer Moon being a potential problem.

posted February 04, 2004 10:17 PM              

I think you got all the advice you'll ever need regarding his mouth and what he meant...

posted February 05, 2004 03:27 PM            

Its regarding the Sag/Aqua relationship:

"However, they (Aquarians) do not take kindly to certain compliments, to which they might apply their revers trick and turn into an insult. Thats when the Uranus hurricane picks up velocity and could blow the Sag fires into flaming response."

posted February 05, 2004 09:36 PM              

Does he come across as a father-figure to you?

posted February 05, 2004 11:11 PM              

He was so hurt, he barely spoke to me after that and told others I was crazy!
I was just trying to help..in any case I know now, that he is sensitive, and I act very compassionate towards him, that's how I show I care.

I would never criticize him in a million years no matter what, but I had to make a commitment and deal with myself and him to do that. it takes a lot of work for me to make any kind of commitment! Please someone do tell me what in my chart causes me to be such a commitment phobic person. After all I do have a moon in cancer!

BUT out of all the people in my life I was able to commit to this particular Aqua. He does have Mars in Aries-more responsive. Aquas think from the ego, Sags have a more selfless attitude towards life-they give it away. Sags do not protect themselves either, you will notice they invite criticism and are down on themselves often.

Sags are the sign of Joan the Arc, the martyr, Famous nurses, Mother Teresa (Sag rising), Eleanor Roosevelt (Sag rising), they like to think they are changing the world and are very outgoing with their opinions. They mean the best though, truly. They are very hurt if they hurt you. Physical help is what Sags are best at, they can give physical expression better in love.

You are right kisses would be better! Sags often complain about feeling unloved, and not getting enough affection.

Pisces Moons love Cancer moons, they can read eachother's minds, and it's scary sometimes. You will need space. My oldest friends have Pisces moons and yes they chat constantly for hours. Worse than Geminis. I know a lot of happy couples with this synastry. The only thing is, Pisces moons like to spend money and can get unfocused sometimes, on actions/words.

Do not depend on Pisces moons too much because they like to be flexible and free. They like to see themselves as wild and free. Travel a lot, Pisces moons love to travel to new interesting places. That would fit his Sag Sun too. Do not make the mistake of depending on a Pisces Sun financially especially a young one, Pisces moons like to be free at that age.

Natasha
Taurus Sun/6th house
Capricorn Pallas, and Juno/2nd house
Aquarius Ceres/2nd house
Cancer Moon/8th house
Mars on Ascendant
Aries Venus/4/5th house
Sag Mars
Gemini Mercury/7th house conjunct Vesta
Eros conjunct Sun
Lilith and Vertex conjunct Moon
Pluto Midheaven, and Jupiter conjunct Uranus Virgo/10th house, Uranus Libra/10th house
Pisces North Node/4th house
Scorpio Neptune/12th house Opposite Taurus Sun exactly, and Trine Moon
Taurus Saturn/5th house

posted February 06, 2004 02:11 AM              

See if these have anything to do with it:

You have Venus in Aries, Mars in Sag and Mercury in Gemini, which all make meeting new people your favorite way to live.

Also, the Moon in the 8th hs stood out to me. Does it seem as if you can never meet anyone you can depend upon, or they've always got money problems?

You may not have trouble with committment as much as you just keep meeting the wrong people. You may be selling yourself too short.

.gloria

posted February 06, 2004 03:54 AM            

I may start a thread about what we have learned from our interest in Astrology, you are all just amazing in your knowledge.

Anyhow thanks for this, I will see him again on Sunday and have definitely resolved to put the "gridlock" comments firmly out of my mind.!

Now Gloria to answer you. We are getting into deep waters here, but I will try to explain. This guy in doesnt seem like a father figure to me any more than other guys I have been involved with. However I do have lots of issues about men because of the absent father thing we talked about.

I've never quite resolved those issues and still sometimes find myself over giving and trying to win male approval. I try to stop myself when I catch myself doing it.

This Sag is very much like a brother to me (except there is a huge amount of physical attraction between us_ maybe only an Aqua could make that cotnradictory statement).
But certainly the father figure issues I have in my life are coming up over and over with him.

Phew ok. Thats a hard thing for me to talk about. Going to talk to the polka dotted Elf that lives on my window sill

posted February 06, 2004 11:19 AM            

I don't think it is odd at all to compare your relationship with your Sag like "being close as a bro, but in a physical way". My Leo has an Aqua moon and me being a Sag, well, I look for that "best friend, partner in crime, shoulder to cry on, lover" kind of thing - as do Aqua's. My Leo, although very romantic and deep, does have emotions similar to an Aqua. I have found that if I spin off in a crazy direction and start with my super fast talking - he sits back, listens and needs to contemplate about it. How very Aqua moon.

He considers me his very best friend and likens me to a sister he never really had in that our friendship and relationship is so deep, we talk about everything. I sometimes feel like I have known him when we were kids and had we grown up together he would have been as fun as my own brother in getting into trouble.

See, Mr. Leo had a sister that was about 4 years older than him, but she had cerebral palsy and was confined to a wheelchair. He spent most of his childhood helping his Virgo mom take care of her. She died when he was 12 years old. He loves to hear stories of my younger brother and I and all the goofy things we did. Both of us are Saggies, so you can imagine the trouble we got into, like playing detectives, using vasoline to grease up our hair...etc...

Mr.Leo once said he wished he had something like that. I told him he did, with me, because above all - he is also my best friend and we do get into a bit of trouble together LOL..

posted February 06, 2004 01:40 PM              

ok...

and do you notice him always wanting to help the ones who are down-and-out? Sort of the girls who need to be "saved"?

Maybe this is you at this point in your life?

Either way, you have a SOLID guy on your side.

.gloria