posted February 23, 2004 10:59 AM              

And they can hold out on the cuddling when they want which isn't nice. Cancer moons needs lots of cuddling. Dirgedoll sounds sweet.

When a Taurus pouts it's not for real, sometimes we just like to be ultra dramatic and the next day the storm has passed. We are forgiving.
But then again I have Venus in Aries so I am not quick to judge. I do stay mad though if a man buys jewelry of ANY kind right in front of me and ignores me. That's not nice.

Wait, Carlo if a woman buys you a collar does that you mean you are the dom or sub? And do secretly want to be the "woman" so you can be courted and treated?

posted February 23, 2004 11:20 AM            

I think I would have to be in control - I don't dig authority and sure as heck COULD NOT do something that someone TOLD me to do. Like clean someones house and call them master? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Harpyr,

I thought outdoors was listed under Sag ladies? Maybe I left it out. The book does go into more detail about personality, sexual style and perferances.

What I found to be interesting was a part that discusses the Sag mindset regarding life and relationships. It details how we are so prone to living in the future, that we neglect what is here in the present. We may even seek a mate based on "where we see ourselves" in a few years. Most often a Sag women marries at least twice and the first marriage is typically to an older man that has his $hit together. Then they / we realize that is should be more about love / intimacy that a learning process and the guy is left for a more loving relationship.

I saw myself in that. I mean, I did have boyfriends, but I didn't see them as equals at the time, nor could I see them as future husbands. I DID marry an older, settled man and I DID leave him for love instead of the constant being molded and shaped. Then again, in my own way, I shaped him too.

posted February 23, 2004 11:26 AM            

1) Leo (duh)
2) Libra
3) Aquarius

I would have listed Aries, but the active anal sex and domination freaks me out. I am sure they are not all like that.

posted February 23, 2004 12:39 PM            

Pidaua~
That's interesting about how Saggies have their eye to the future regarding mate selection.. I suppose I haven't been very typical some regards then. All the men that I have been involved with have been still floundering around in the world trying to figure out their place in it. None of them have had $. Buut..
I have always had aspirations of being a musician myself and have waxed and waned in my pursuit of it, but have very consistently gotten involved with extremely talented musicians. I think that it's partially me living vicariously through them, part me wanting them to teach me something and part deep appreciation of their craft.
Money has never been a priority for me in my search for a mate, love has always taken precedence. It may have been because when I was younger my mother always recommended that I marry someone rich, (She grew up quite poor) and I instinctively always bristled and rebelled against that rationale, insisting that I would never compromise love for security and so far I've remained true to that. Even if I've had doubts about the sanity of that when I'm at the food stamp office, they always go away as soon as I'm in my beloved's arms.

I am always very conscious of what direction our paths of personal evolution are taking us because I wouldn't want to get involved with someone whose values and goals became totally divergent from what I wanted. So in that sense, I definetly have my eye toward the future.

Now.. as for this whole slave/master thing.
I know for certain that I would never be cut out for cleaning someone's house and never getting to speak. I mean- egads. How many Saggies would really be into that?

posted February 23, 2004 12:51 PM            

Yes, I see you point about the public thing. LOL...I like the potential risk factor, which is probably why I like the outdoors thing.

I have dated my fair share of lost souls. LOL..musicians, artists, etc..but something was never quite right. I just couldn't SEE myself supporting them. It would be different if I was in a relationship / marriage and they lost their job. Money isn't THAT important, but I have learned that it affords me my freedom. Taking care of someone or asking someone for money is NOT my style. The Virgo I was married to had money, but he was VERY TIGHT. I mean, I paid for just about all the travel, dinners out....etc.. I finally told him that he was too 'Slow to open his wallet'. See, he rather enjoyed making me ask for money, our marriage counselor called it 'subterfuge'. As it ended up, I just stopped including him in my travel plans, discontinued the dinners out for the most part, and took to ignoring him. That was my way of showing I could not be controlled. Both of us were rather childish in retrospect.

In any case, I think that two people do have to have a common goal. I saw my ex as an extremely intelligent and sophisticated person, and he is. I was deeply attracted to that because I wanted someone that I could grow old with and continue to learn about the world. BUT, a Sag is still a fire sign and we NEED a certain amount of physical intimacy. Nothing will change that - at least not for me.

posted February 23, 2004 02:48 PM              

I do not like petty power struggles unless it's sexy. Power struggles about money on a personal level are very vindictive and just boring.

As in, "Okay , who ordered the bottled water?", "Who wants to pay for the tip?"

posted February 23, 2004 02:50 PM              

I do not like petty power struggles unless it's sexy. Power struggles about money on a personal level are very vindictive and just boring.

As in, "Okay , who ordered the bottled water?", "Who wants to pay for the tip?"

posted February 23, 2004 03:32 PM            

Lovin' it ladies...and gents.

Hey, I have a Cappy moon and am quite cuddly. And I'm not adverse to tying up a naughty boy and giving him a sound spanking. Vanilla is a wonderful flavor, but as a steady diet? Nuh-uh.

I have so much Aries in me, you'll never see me as a sub. But as a Domme, in those cool high heels, wielding a whip, a man on his knees to worship me? Nothin' wrong with that picture!

Pixel, I love your posts and your adventerous spirit. Keep it coming.

As long as it's consenting adults involved, I try not to judge people too much on their sexuality. The hardwiring is different in each of us, and while I might not understand the sexual needs of someone, I do my best to accept.

I'm generally not a big fan of Freud, but didn't he say that the only abnormal sex, is no sex? I generally agree, though again, as long as it's consenting adults.

posted February 23, 2004 04:14 PM            

You'd have to be a CSI fan to understand...but I looked it up on the web, it's real! Surprised even me.

posted February 23, 2004 04:19 PM            

I almost fell off my chair laughing when a guy was really serious about making love to another person while wearing a stuffed animal custom. The other person was wearing a tiger plushie outfit. LOL>..

posted February 23, 2004 07:37 PM            

Oh, and newbies were "Furgins."

My my my...in a world of possibilities...

posted February 24, 2004 12:57 AM              

Remember when I said Virgo's like things that are "the more obscure the better"?

It's got all its own language and culture and "you don't understand us" thing going.

Pixel - You'd make a good Dom BUT...

what hasn't been revealed truthfully here is that the best Sub's happen to be people who have high-pressure, power-driven, jobs who are basically control freaks with everything else in their life.

Do you all get it now?

Not that I've had personal experience, I mean... I HEARD about it...

As for the "cleaning" thing... I couldn't seriously do that without cracking up within the first 5 minutes. I mean, I couldn't be the "cleaner" OR expect a Sub to do that without totally making it funny as hell. Ummmm... could be some people take themselves WAY too seriously.

Dorkus -
I f'g LOVE your dry humor... truly...

posted February 24, 2004 02:39 AM              

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And who's Michael Hutchence? Is he single?

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posted February 24, 2004 11:04 AM            

Therein lies part of the intoxicating rub.
I love a good paradox.

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