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virgo
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posted March 27, 2004 04:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this has nothing to do with astrology but I need help now and this is the only place I know of.
I need someone to interpret these lines for me..I know what there talking about..but I need someone to tell me what there saying word for word...like how would she say it if she was saying it in normal english..i dont want to know just what it means..but how she would also say it.
please i really need help!
its really important.
this is the scene.

I need someone to interpret these lines for me word for word. I know what they are talking about but I want to know what she would exactly say in her own words in normal english. here it is. I understand the first couple lines..till it gets to "spread thy close curtian" i know what shes talking bout..but how would she say it in normal english. explain everything to me please. this is very important.

Act 3 - Scene 2

Capulet's orchard.

Enter JULIET
JULIET

Gallop apace, you fiery-footed steeds,
Towards Phoebus' lodging: such a wagoner
As Phaethon would whip you to the west,
And bring in cloudy night immediately.
Spread thy close curtain, love-performing night,
That runaway's eyes may wink and Romeo
Leap to these arms, untalk'd of and unseen.
Lovers can see to do their amorous rites
By their own beauties; or, if love be blind,
It best agrees with night. Come, civil night,
Thou sober-suited matron, all in black,
And learn me how to lose a winning match,
Play'd for a pair of stainless maidenhoods:
Hood my unmann'd blood, bating in my cheeks,
With thy black mantle; till strange love, grown bold,
Think true love acted simple modesty.
Come, night; come, Romeo; come, thou day in night;
For thou wilt lie upon the wings of night
Whiter than new snow on a raven's back.
Come, gentle night, come, loving, black-brow'd night,
Give me my Romeo; and, when he shall die,
Take him and cut him out in little stars,
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with night
And pay no worship to the garish sun.
O, I have bought the mansion of a love,
But not possess'd it, and, though I am sold,
Not yet enjoy'd: so tedious is this day
As is the night before some festival
To an impatient child that hath new robes
And may not wear them

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astro junkie
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posted March 27, 2004 04:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Cliff's for everything except that.

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lovely libra
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posted March 28, 2004 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely libra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well now romeo and juliet is my thing, here is my take on it.

"Fiery steeds" Refer to greek mythology the sun driven in a chariot with firey footed steeds simply means
" hurry up sun and go down so romeo can come"
See they are leagely married but umm havent consumated yet. "lovers can see to do thier amoruos rights"

"learn me how to lose a winning match played for a pair of stainless maidenheads" More about wanting night to come. they are both virgins burning.

"thou day in night" She is refering to romeo as the day in night or he is bright = attrictive

"when he shall die take him and cut him into little stars and he will make heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night" She is going on and on about how great romeo is if he were made into stars than every one would think he was so beautiful they would love night better than day.

" Oh I have bought the mansion of love..." etc. She means she has leagely maried him but not slept with him yet.

Preety much she has just gotten secreatly married in a rush and is horney as all get out waiting till night so she can sneak him in and ...

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~Renee
~indecision may or may not be my problem

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lioneye68
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posted March 28, 2004 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
virgo, you silly head...you can bring pretty much anything to us here...Do you ever go to the Free For All forum? It's purpose is for things like this, that don't really fit neatly into the other catagories...FYI (you should check it out, it has some neat stuff going on right now)

As for Juliet's musings...I think lovely libra pretty much nailed it. (no pun intended)

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posted March 28, 2004 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Summary of Act 3, Scene 2
Index:
Enter Juliet alone:
-- Juliet: "Gallop apace, you fiery-footed steeds, / Towards Phoebus' lodging" (3.2.1-2).
Juliet longs for the coming of night and Romeo.
Enter Nurse, with cords:
-- Juliet: "Now, nurse, what news? What hast thou there? (3.2.34).
The Nurse appears; she has seen Tybalt's corpse and heard that Romeo has been banished. The Nurse is so overwrought that her words first make Juliet think that Romeo is dead. When the Nurse finally makes it clear that Tybalt is dead and Romeo is banished, Juliet first turns against Romeo for killing her cousin, then defends him for killing the man who would have killed him. Then Juliet remembers that the Nurse said Romeo has been "banished," which drives her to despair. The Nurse promises Juliet that she'll make arrangements for Romeo to come that night for a farewell visit.


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Enter Juliet alone:
Juliet appears, probably on the balcony where she pledged her love to Romeo. (Juliet knows that the Nurse is going to bring the "cords," the rope ladder that Romeo will use that night. The balcony is the place for the rope ladder.) The sun is still in the sky, but Juliet wants it gone. She is longing for the coming of night and her Romeo.
Her first words are "Gallop apace, you fiery-footed steeds, / Towards Phoebus' lodging: such a wagoner / As Phaėthon would whip you to the west, / And bring in cloudy night immediately" (3.2.1-4). The "steeds" are the horses that pull the chariot of the sun-god Phoebus, whose "lodging" is in the west, below the horizon. Phaėthon is the sun-god's son, who in myth could not control the steeds of the sun. In the myth, the sun-chariot, with Phaėthon at the reins, races wildly across the sky. Juliet's blood is racing just as wildly, and she wants night and Romeo to come to her now.

In her imagination, night will bring the consummation of her love. She says, "Spread thy close curtain, love-performing night, / That runaways' eyes may wink and Romeo / Leap to these arms, untalk'd of and unseen" (3.2.5-7). In English, the word "curtain" was first used of a bed-curtain; Juliet is seeing things as though she is on a bed, seeing the curtains close about her, bringing the dark in which the acts of love are performed. "Wink" meant simply "close quickly," not close and open again, as it does now; when the curtain of the night closes about Juliet, the eyes of those runaway steeds of the sun will wink out and Romeo will suddenly be in her arms, "untalked of and unseen" -- as in a dream.

Juliet believes that when night and Romeo come, the love-making will be magical, because "Lovers can see to do their amorous rites / By their own beauties" (3.2.8-9). (This idea, that beauty creates its own light, is the same one that Romeo talked about when he saw Juliet on her balcony and described her as an angel shining in the night.) And even if she can't see Romeo that will be as it should be, because "if love be blind, / It best agrees with night" (3.2.9-10).

Again Juliet asks the night to come, this time with metaphors which intensify her eroticism with a taste of the forbidden: "Come, civil night, / Thou sober-suited matron, all in black, / And learn [teach] me how to lose a winning match, / Play'd for a pair of stainless maidenhoods" (3.2.10-13). A matron, a dignified mother, especially one who is somber ("civil"), would warn a girl against losing her virginity ("maidenhood"), but now that Juliet is married, losing is winning. What was forbidden is now not only allowed, but the right thing to do, especially because Juliet and Romeo will both give the purity of their bodies to each other.

In the same vein, Juliet, who can feel herself blushing with desire, asks the night to cover her so that her desire can be fulfilled. She says, "Hood my unmann'd blood, bating in my cheeks, / With thy black mantle, till strange [bashful] love, grown bold, / Think true love acted simple modesty [chastity]" (3.2.14-16). The words "hood," "unmanned," and "bating" are all borrowed from falconry. An "unmanned" falcon is untamed; it will try to escape from its keeper by "bating," beating its wings wildly; and it is controlled by having a hood placed over its head, so that it can't see. Juliet's blood, wildly beating in her blushing cheeks, is "unmanned" because it is unmanned -- without Romeo. But with Romeo, in the dark, her desire could be set free, so that she could do the acts of love as though they were chastity itself.

Yet again she asks night to come to her, and she asks Romeo to come with it: "come, Romeo, come, thou day in night; / For thou wilt lie upon the wings of night / Whiter than new snow on a raven's back" (3.2.17-19). This beautiful metaphor contrasts Romeo's shining whiteness and the deep black of the night, and the same contrast is repeated in the climax of Juliet's reverie:

Give me my Romeo; and, when I shall die,
Take him and cut him out in little stars,
And he will make the face of heaven so fine
That all the world will be in love with night
And pay no worship to the garish sun. (3.2.21-25)
Some editors print "when he shall die" instead of "when I shall die," but "I" makes perfectly good sense. Juliet believes that when Romeo comes to her in the night he will be with her forever, even after her death, shining like stars in the night.
After this, Juliet begins to come down to earth a little. She complains that although she and Romeo now belong to one another, neither really has the other one: "O, I have bought the mansion of a love, / But not possess'd it, and, though I am sold, / Not yet enjoy'd" (3.2.26-28). And she complains that this day is as tedious to her as to a child who has new clothes she is forbidden to wear until a night-time party. Then the Nurse appears, carrying the rope ladder.


LOL No, this is not my summary/interpretation.

http://www.clicknotes.com/romeo/S32.html

I copied the link just in case you needed to look up more stuff after this scene, although all of this is word for word from that page in relation to your post.

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