posted March 30, 2004 06:35 AM              

They are:::
Capricorn/Aquarius
Aquarius/Pisces
Pisces/Aries
Aries/Taurus
Taurus/Gemini
Gemini/Cancer
Cancer/Leo
Leo/Virgo
Virgo/Libra
Libra/Scorpio
Scorpio/Sagitarrius
Sagitarrius/Capricorn

posted March 30, 2004 10:35 AM            

My boss is the coolest, handsomest, man. Don't know is wife's birthday but she is cooler than he...

I have a disastorus (forgive my spelling) relations with Scorpio men (Women no problem). My last boss was a true Scorpio and I swore I would never do it again...ever....The Universe being how it is, here I am but he was born on the cusp and the Libra shines through (more often then not )

Amber
(Libra)

posted March 31, 2004 10:57 PM            

As this is a board dealing with all things Linda related, I'm afraid that I have to inform you that Linda thought that CUSPS were nothing but sloppy astrology, and I am in agreement.

A Cusp is simply a dividing line between houses in a horoscope, NOT signs in the zodiac.

If you actually look at your chart, you will find that a CUSP influence is generally attributed to: planets or The Moon in the following sign, the following sign rising or the ruler of the Ascendant or MidHeaven in that sign.

Additionally, for those who swear that they FEEL like both signs... if you are born that close to the end of a sign, within the first few years of your life, the Sun will have moved by Progression into that following sign. And that is probably more why you feel like that sign than any sloppy cusp business.

Linda stated very clearly: (see Love Signs on pg. 35 - following the 12 Mysteries of Love section, in a section called "Your Sun Sign") "An electric light is either ON or it is OFF. It cannot be both on and off at the same time. Neither can the Sun (for similar reasons) exercise its powerful influence through TWO SIGNS simultaneously."

I feel that on a site dedicated to Linda and her Astrology, we must remain as true to the source as possible. I hope that helps somewhat.

Blessings...

As ever, the opinionated astrologer...
A

posted March 31, 2004 11:54 PM              

Then too, you may not see it in others as I do, more potently in Cap/Aq or Sag/Cap. That's why I brought it up.

Not everyone believes as Linda does about this, but ok... you're right. That's what she said, and I place a lot of credence in what she said. Because of her, I tell people there is no such thing as what is commonly known as a "cusp". You are one sign or the other.

posted April 01, 2004 06:05 AM            

Scientifically speaking, most theorists believe that astrology works when the various planets magnetic, gravitational, and radiational fields interact with the earth. Now if we study the nature of these fields it is clear that they do not work in and ON/OFF manner, they are FIELDS. They extend out from a center (where they are the strongest), and then continue on to gradually weaken across great distances. (Imagine a rock being dropped a pool, and seeing the ripples move outward in a circle.)

With this information, how can we possibly conceive that a sign just ENDS at some date, which is most likely slighly arbitary anyway. I think it is pretty clear that if mars is transiting gemini hovering a few degrees away from your natal sun in taurus, that we feel its influence. The universe is SLOPPY, and it does not just wrap up in tight little packages!

Astrology will someday be an accurate science, but until then we have to at least somewhat apply some relevant physical laws to it. You don't just stop taking on the characteristics of saggitarius if you are born on dec 22, the field of saggitarius still extends into late december, eventually it weakens to the point where its influence is no longer felt. Read "the science of astrology" for more information.

posted April 01, 2004 10:17 AM            

I am all for questioning "the rules" and always experiment on my own to find out what works for me and what doesn't.

That being said, and having over 23 years of time invested in this study, I can with state with reasonable certainty that there is no orb of influence between signs.. or cusps as you are calling them... the Sun is either in one sign or another... that's the math guys, I'm not making it up. I have never calculated a chart that told me that the Sun was in 29 degrees of Sagi-Corn... It is either in 29 degrees 59 minutes of Sagittarius or 0 degrees of Capricorn 00 minutes.

As I say, in my experience, there is always another planet in that CUSP sign, or some other personal point... or the Sun has progressed into the next sign.

But as always, we are all entitled to our opinions. And as you'll note, I often call myself the opinionated astrologer.

I'm just not into sloppy astrology, but if it works for you...

Good Luck and God Bless...
A

P.S. The simple rule that I do always follow is this: if some factor in a chart can mean EVERYTHING than nothing means anything!

posted April 01, 2004 12:45 PM              

You are either one sign or the other, definately. The other thing to consider is that (didn't Linda say this too?) it is rare a given birth time is 100% accurate.

Another thing to consider is a phenomenon I've sort of penned myself, and believe to be important, if someone's mother was under heavy medications during birth. A child may be born a "Sag", but is not fully awake until the next day or two, when the Sun is in Cap.

What do you think of this?

For example, my mother almost died when I was born and was under heavy medications, back in 1961 no less! My Asc is in Taurus at 29.43 degrees. Too many people have said I'm more like a Gemini Asc. If I read Asc descriptions to see which rings true more of me NONE OF THEM DO.

So I penned my Asc to be "Collective", that is, I have an unconscious collective memory/experience of many Asc's while I was still waking up.

And what about theories of when someone has a sign or House in a certain degree? Even that seems to hold some truth to it, such as the 29th Degree.

posted April 01, 2004 01:42 PM              

But when it comes to the rising, I feel it's Scorpio/12th house conjunct Neptune, as there is only a four minute debate. I act exactly like a Neptune conjunct Ascedant.

I have every reason to shout, cusp with Gemini, but I stand by Taurus even though I am born on the degree called the Sisters of Tears, which means I am said to have many traumas in my life. Not so positive astrology there..but I accept it.

The truth is take your own advice, it is the best, meditate on what you know is the truth.

posted April 01, 2004 06:00 PM              

85% fire here....need answers NOW!!!!!

posted April 01, 2004 07:22 PM              

I will find the article and give you the facts
Can your fiery nature wait?
I believe in asteriods too, I believe everything at first, then I sift and analyze...

posted April 01, 2004 07:34 PM              

I did find this article about cusps

"Your birthchart is not that simple, however. As with all of astrology, one piece of the birthchart does not tell the whole story. Your moon is at 29 degrees 34 minutes Cancer, on the very cusp of Leo. Liz Greene, the foremost Jungian astrologer alive today, would describe your cusp this way It is as if you are standing in a doorway, and Cancer is in the room that you are leaving, and Leo is in the room that you are entering. Your body is still in Cancer, and you have memories of what it is like to be in Cancer but all of your attention and focus is in Leo. Therefore your moon operates much more as a Leo moon than a Cancer moon. Someone with a strong Cancer moon is shy and protective of their feelings, and in the twelfth house they become very private. With your moon entering Leo, however, the emotions become much more pronounced and the need to be reflected by others, the Leo influence, becomes strong. Moon in Leo needs to be expressed to others, it's a key piece of how it functions."

So that's one analysis of a cusp. In that case then I act like a Gemini which would explain my Gemini friends, but I find myself becoming more and more Taurean as I get older, even with mercury in Gemini/7th house. Possibly it's my strong 7th, 2nd house. I like being a Taurus very much, but I find Gemini Suns have answers for me.

posted April 01, 2004 11:13 PM              

When you say "but blind faith and basing outlook on purely subjective experience is the root of ignorance and intolerance"

posted April 01, 2004 11:33 PM            

But of the gazillion people who claim a cusp position, I would estimate those who actually have such a phenomenon to be fairly uncommon, if not downright rare.

Not that I'm remotely close to being an expert, but everytime I've run a chart of someone on a "cusp", it seemed to me that they had strong influences either from the planet of the other cusp sign's ruler, or planets in that sign that would explain why they feel like "both" signs.

posted April 02, 2004 12:08 AM            

29th degree of any sign is considered a "break-up" degree. This can refer to relationships, jobs or life experiences that often seem to bring sudden endings and new beginnings.

Linda has remarked before that the 0 degree of a sign represents "the adept". I have little experience with true adepts, so I cannot speak to that. However I do have experience, with the so-called cusps, and it leads me to share Linda's opinion.

Blue Roamer...In terms of pure science in astrology: it is both an art and a science. I do not deny that another's experience could differ from mine, or Linda's or anyone else's for that matter. I was merely stating Linda's philosophy, and one that MY practice has borne out. Actually that is as scientific as I need to get... if it works use it, if it doesn't reject it. Like Occam's razor but turned toward astrology.

I am what I term an old fashioned astrologer; by that I mean that I judge physical appearance of the individual from the chart, make medical diagnoses, describe specific life events and make specific predictions. That is the mundane facet of my practice. I also use a form of esoteric astrology to discuss spiritual matters, but that is for the few that ask, and not the many that don't seem to care. I like my astrology black and white, you either look a certain way, have had certain life experience, have particular physical weaknesses or you do not. I think psychological astrology is too "gray" for MY particular tastes.

As I said... we dedicate this board to Linda, and she abhored the ideas of "cusps" as anything other than the dividing line between houses in a horoscope.

I can ascertain from your commentary that I would not be the correct astrologer FOR YOU... but that is the beauty of this art/science... there are as many types of astrology as there are astrologers. So, sue me!

Isis... I have calculated hundreds of charts by hand before the advent of computer astrology programs, and I have never seen a case yet where based on the birth time and place there was any doubt between 29 degrees 59 minutes of one sign and 0 degrees 00 minutes of the next. Perhaps I am not so persnickety about my math?!

Blessings...

The opinionated astrologer.
A

P.S. As you will see in my signature, as quoted from the Kybalion, "The ALL is Mind, the Universe is Mental". So, I suppose that one could manifest that "cusp" thing if that is how one is inclined to believe. But be that as it may... more often than not in a correctly calculated nativity you will see the other sign occupied by a personal point or angle, as Linda has said. Or that their Sun has progressed into that next sign. Isn't that much more easily tested and able to be proved than the mythical "cusp" waffle?

posted April 02, 2004 12:24 AM              

can anyone please tell me what the term of "the adept" in astrology speak actually means?

Thanks so much in advance!

posted April 02, 2004 12:30 AM            

Adept... this is not an astrological term per se. An adept is a master of a skill, talent or gift, be it mundane or spiritual.

Usually in metaphysics we refer to adepts as great Teachers or people that can work seeming miracles by their understanding of Universal Law such as Jesus, Buddha, the Dalai Lama etc.

No great mystery here!

In the Light...
A

posted April 02, 2004 12:39 AM              

I do know that being "adept" at something means being proficient or skilled etc...

But, 'literal old me' was just unsure about what exactly it might specifically mean in the astro world, and I guess you explained it really, really well for me!

Wow! That definition of it in relation to metaphysics actually sounds quite lofty in a way.

Thanks for offering a little further explanation about it for me there!