posted May 12, 2004 12:24 PM              

I have heard that people with a 7th house Saturn should not marry until their first Saturn Return (so after age 28). Otherwise, they say, the marriage will have a lot of turmoil and may deteriorate. If thats the case, then how does actually marrying during the Saturn Return result in a happy marriage?? I don't understand. What do you guys think?

posted May 16, 2004 11:04 AM              

However, because we are attracted to "like self-images" this person would also be looking for someone to take responsibility for them. One of you would learn to take responsbility for his or herself.

Now.....the first Saturn return is a time of taking responsbility for our own "rules"....meaning choosing our own values, morality, etc....as opposed to trying to live out the ones our parents set for out childhood. Assuming that you did the necessary processing at the return, it would put any later marriage on a much better footing.

posted May 23, 2004 01:00 PM              

I have the trine, myself...and at 35, have not married yet. But I've played house several times (lived common law). I always ended up being relieved that I *didn't* marry them after it was over. (because it obviously wouldn't have worked out)

I think any sort of Saturn or Capricorn influence to your natal 7th or Venus brings a rather serious attitude about marriage and legal commitments in general. Like an instinctual knowing that these things are not to be taken lightly.

posted May 24, 2004 12:35 PM              

Rev. Alice,

posted June 18, 2004 09:48 AM              

She has a Natal Jupiter Conj Saturn in Capricorn in HIS 2nd House

HE has Natal Jupiter in his 7th House, and in HER 2nd House. His Saturn in HER 4th House.

Thanks for anyone who sees anything.

posted June 18, 2004 10:30 AM              

I am not sure I can answer your question properly, but I'll give it a shot it might help.

I do know that the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn especially in Capricorn indicates financial stability. By those falling in HIS 2nd house(house of finances) increase the chance of financial gain. Means that SHE is able to help me out financially cuz she will probably be well-off.

And since HIS Jupiter also falls in her 2nd house...it could mean that not only she, but HE(jupiter) is also able to help her increase her wealth.

Now, His Saturn in her 4th house, would mean that he imposes certain restrictions her about how to run a home/family. He might try to dominate her in that arena. He probably also restricts her emotional expression..she feels repressed by him.

posted June 18, 2004 01:51 PM              

Jupiters linkage to the 2nd house, is particularly helpful in any common enterprise aimed at mutual gain. The house person will usually find the Jup.person as a natural partner and will have an unconcious sense that the Jupiter person can be relied upon when some joint project is involved.

I too have Saturn in the 7th (wide conj. with Mars) and Capricorn rising. So relationships have been huge learning experiences for me in this life time. Transiting Sat. will be coming up to my DC next month, and be in my 7th for over 2 years. Eventually to conjoin with natal Saturn in the 7th. All I can think is Oh, no this does not sound fun. But, I know wherever Saturn is there are lessons to be learned.
Have to wait and see what happens I guess.

posted June 18, 2004 02:53 PM              

And my own worst critic? Yes, I'm way too hard on myself (virgo moon). This mostly comes out in the artwork I do, it's gotta be "perfect". This is a major lesson for me to work on over coming.

posted June 18, 2004 03:54 PM            

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Saturn Aspecting the Ascendant: The Ascendant shows how you start things. Saturn will tend to make you cautious and careful here. Even an "charge-right-in" sign like Aries on the Ascendant will be slowed by this one. The stressful aspects also incline to extra delays in the marriage and partnership area. If you have a stressful aspect of Saturn to the Ascendant, don’t get married before your first "Saturn return". This is the time when Saturn returns to the place it occupied when you were born, and it occurs between the ages of 28 and 30. This aspect is similar to the effect of having Saturn in the 7th House. A marriage before age 28 has an increased chance of failure. The affection slowly decays until there is nothing left. Tell your fiancée they will have to wait.

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posted June 18, 2004 04:04 PM            

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Saturn Aspecting the Sun: The harmonious aspects simply incline the person with them to be practical, conservative, and orderly. When Saturn makes harmonious aspects, it seems to give benefits grudgingly, and these only have to do with stabilizing things shown by the planet it is aspecting. The STRESSFUL aspects are where Saturn really goes to work. With Saturn stressfully aspecting the Sun, there are usually the following difficulties with the father: (1) he isn’t there, either due to a long work schedule, separation, divorce, or death (2) he is there but he is so aloof, distant, and unfeeling, he might as well not be (3) he is there, but he is always sick, or (4) he is there but he is always strict and a disciplinarian.

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posted June 18, 2004 04:09 PM              

Havent thought about the Mutability of Virgo, astroj - but youre right.

Now you guys have got me thinkin'.

.....off to work

posted June 18, 2004 05:15 PM              

I just realized an error on the original overlay I had with me & Libra guy. Now for some reason, astro.com results for the exact same thing has moved the positions/divisions of the 9th, 10th & 11th House. Nothing else has changed, same planetary aspects, etc.

Weird!

And my Sun is no longer in his 10th, it is in his 9th. Just that slight difference.

Weird!