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Topic: Out of sign aspects?
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Aen
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posted May 17, 2004 10:52 AM
 
What do you think of them? Do they still *work*? Are they different?I'm wondering about this because if I disregard out of sign aspecs in my chart, I'll have considerably less aspects left. And it even might make more sense this way. How you feel about these aspects in your chart? IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted May 17, 2004 01:11 PM
Yes, they work.
The energy is interesting, and has to be looked at individually, I think.Most importantly, look at them in your own chart and determine for yourself how their energies manifest in your life.  IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted May 17, 2004 01:33 PM
What is "out of sign aspects"?IP: Logged |
trillian
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posted May 17, 2004 02:01 PM
When an aspect occurs by degree, but not by sign. I other words, you could have a trine from Cappy to Aries, though the two are naturally squared. My moon is 3 degrees of Cappy. My sun is 26 degrees of Aries. They are 7 degrees apart, and create a trine because the Cappy is so close to Sag. IP: Logged |
lllog
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posted May 17, 2004 03:27 PM
Each planet takes on the energies of it's sign, plays that energy out in the area of life indicated by the house, and is modified by their aspects regardless of sign.Lanny IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted May 17, 2004 03:43 PM
I thought that Merc retro was over? LOL...I keep having posting issues.
Okay - I will try again
I agree with Lanny's take on the matter. I have two such aspects in my chart one beneficial and one negative. First: I have Neptune in Scorpio and Mars in Pisces - but Neptune is a late degree and Pisces is early - so according to the degree of the aspect I have a harsh square. However, the square does not manifest in my life as one would think. I do not live in a fantasy world nor am I susceptible to escapism through drugs, sex or alcohol. I am sensitive to various stimulants - such as allergy medication - which could be a manifestation of the aspect or having Mars in the 6th house. In the same respect, I have Sun in Sag trine Saturn in Taurus. It should be incredibly beneficial, but I don't completely feel the total vibration. I think that it is due to the fact that Sag never truly trines Taurus. So while I am tasting some of the benefits..it is only an appetizer in comparison to other strong aspects in my chart - like my Sun square Pluto or Sun conjunct Venus. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted May 18, 2004 03:23 AM
Hmm. I dunno. I've experienced these types of aspects in synastry, and I mean I DID experience them. Still do. Maybe they have more strength in synastry than they do in most natal charts. * I say most because God knows there's an exception to *EVERYTHING*, right? But, my dude and I have Saturn oppose Venus, his Saturn in 0.23 Pisces to my Venus in 28.53 Leo. Almost Leo to Aqua. Almost Pisces to Virgo. Not quite perfect. I think this type of aspect makes hard aspects less harsh, and makes soft apects weaker. It's still compelling, but the issues arent' as gut wrenching, eithor for better or worse.Also, my Mars to his Venus...forms a pretty tight conjunction, but his Venus is in late Cancer, and my Mars is in early Leo. I completely lust after him and he adores me.  It's a fully functional aspect, to be sure! IP: Logged |
Aen
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posted May 18, 2004 09:39 AM
Thank you for sharing.I have mixed feelings about these aspects. I sort of ... feel some things and miss others. And the things I do feel could perhaps be explained with other factors in my chart. I have Merc square Pluto (Cappy-Virgo). I don't think I'm very observant and tend to miss obvious clues BUT ... give me a murky situation with hidden agendas and motives and I just KNOW them. I also come across the most amazing information while searching for entirely other things. Also, when on the last line of defense, I've opened my mouth and, literally, realized what I'm saying only when I hear it. And although the results of such attacks are awful and usually irrevocable, I don't have any regrets there. Is this Mercury square Pluto (the ruler of 3rd) or Mars in 3rd? Moon in 12th conj Pluto? Or all together? I also have Sun sextile Jupiter (Cappy-Sag). Which I just don't get at all. May be I just don't know how to activate it? Or may be this is the reason why I 'm not particularly materialistic nor that pessimistic as Cappys are usually told to be?
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lioneye68
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posted May 18, 2004 05:27 PM
Yeah, when it's a square by aspect, but a trine by element...I think it would feel more like a sextile than a square. A planet would still display the characteristic energy of the sign it occupies, and if it's an earth sign, and aspecting another earth sign...well, there's no way it would have the tension associated with a square aspect. IP: Logged |
lllog
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posted May 18, 2004 11:25 PM
I respectfully disagree with you lioneye68.A square is a square, pure and simple. Of course, just because I disagree dosn't make you wrong. Lanny IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted May 19, 2004 01:53 PM
Ditto, Lanny..  And as with everything else, it would be colored by the rest of the chart. I'm not saying I know for a fact, eithor way. My opinion is based completely on theory - looking at the sign energies of each planet, and assuming that if they're in the same element, it wouldn't be too hard to deal with the square aspect, because it wouldn't have the notorious "Our differences make me NUTS!" feeling that squares of incompatible elements tend to have. At least in synastry. But the same would make sense in a natal chart, I would think...theoretically. IP: Logged | |
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