posted June 04, 2004 01:51 PM              

"...So, if you are a Taurus (or, in other words, if you have Sun in Taurus) but your rising sign (also known as the Ascendant or First House cusp) is in Aries, your Sun will fall in your second house. Because the second house represents values, both tangible and intangible, your life force (Sun) will be focused to a great extent on what you value..."

Does anyone have any info on this? I've never heard of it. You can read the rest of it below too:::

(on Synastry in general)

"The Aspects
By looking at one person's chart, and measuring the distance in degrees from that person's planets to the planets in another person's chart, we can make certain predictions about where the strengths and weaknesses of the relationship are: whether it has staying power; in what ways the people involved are compatible or incompatible; which of the partners will take the lead in certain situations; and what problems these people may have to overcome in the course of their involvement with each other.

The measurements we use to make these determinations are called aspects. The main aspects employed in synastry analysis are the conjunction, sextile, square, trine and opposition. When two planets are in conjunction, they are "within orb" (the closer the better) of being in the same degree of the same sign. When sextile, the planets are within orb of 60 degrees (two signs) apart; when square, 90 degrees (three signs) apart; trine, 120 degrees (four signs) apart; and opposition, 180 degrees (six signs) apart. Generally speaking, sextiles and trines are considered easy aspects. Squares and oppositions are usually more dynamic or tension producing aspects. Conjunctions can be either easy or difficult to handle, depending on the planets involved.

For instance, if John's Moon (his feelings, domestic life and moods) is trine Jessica's Venus (her asthetic sense and romantic urges) the planetary energies combine quite nicely and we would expect these two to relate easily and to be sensitive to one another's feelings. But if John's Mars (his aggressive, competitive urges) is also square Jessica's Mercury (her mental processes, communications and ideas) these planetary energies clash, and we can expect them to have some heated arguments because his aggressive urges are stirred up by her words and ideas.

So, does this mean they will or will not get along?

It means that, like almost all couples, there will be areas of life where things hum along nicely with virtually no problems, and there will be other areas of life that are occasionally challenging.

Often, when people look at their chart comparison for the first time they will notice some negative aspects between their charts and become worried. But this is not necessarily cause for concern. Even the most idyllic match usually shows some areas of discord. Every relationship needs some dynamic tension if the individuals involved are to grow. A bit of challenge also brings excitement into the relationship. Without sexual tension, for instance, you can have a lovely friendship, but it may not go beyond that. What's important is that the comparison in general shows compatibility.

Comparative House Placements
In addition to looking at the aspects between the planets in the two charts, we observe where the planets of one person's chart fall in the houses of the other.

No matter what your sign is, all the other signs -- Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces -- are represented in your chart as well. Your chart will show your rising sign or Ascendant on the first house cusp, and the other eleven signs on the cusps of the other eleven houses. (Please note: many people have what are called "interceptions" in their charts. If you have an interception, there will be two signs, exactly opposite one another, that do not rule any house. Instead, the signs either directly before or directly after the intercepted signs will rule two houses each. Interceptions are quite common and have no bearing on relationships that we know of. Ask your astrologer if you have an interception in your chart. ) Assuming for the moment that you have Aries rising, your second house will then be Taurus, your third house will be Gemini, your fourth will be Cancer, your fifth, Leo, and so on, throughout your chart. But, if you have Gemini rising, your second house will be Cancer, your third, Leo, your fourth, Virgo, and so on, throughout the signs.

So, if you are a Taurus (or, in other words, if you have Sun in Taurus) but your rising sign (also known as the Ascendant or First House cusp) is in Aries, your Sun will fall in your second house. Because the second house represents values, both tangible and intangible, your life force (Sun) will be focused to a great extent on what you value. If your rising sign is Scorpio, your Taurus Sun will fall in your seventh house (the house of marriage and important partnerships) and your life force will be strongly focused on meaningful relationship. If your rising sign is Capricorn, your Taurus Sun will fall in your fifth house, the house of romance, partying and children, and your life force will be focused on these issues.

Just as your planets fall in different houses -- and affect you in different ways, depending on the houses they are in -- so the planets of the people in your life will fall in different houses of your chart . And the energies of these people will affect you in different ways, depending on which of your houses the planets fall into.

So, getting back to John and Jessica again, if his Venus (asthetic sense, romance) falls in her seventh house (marriage and other important partnerships) he is likely to impress her as a exactly what she's looking for in a marriage partner. But, if his Saturn (limits, responsibilities, hard lessons) falls in her eleventh house (friends, hopes, associations) she may have to adjust her social life or aspirations somewhat in order to make a go of her marriage to him, and there may be occasional clashes between friendships and marital responsibilities.

posted June 04, 2004 04:30 PM              

I really liked that article...where did you find it?

posted June 05, 2004 11:12 AM              

I pulled that info from:::
www.artcharts.com/advanced_astrology/love_synastry.html

Does that thing about the Sun & Rising make sense to you? I'm having a little trouble grasping.

posted June 05, 2004 02:37 PM              

I've been reading up on synastry relationships a lot lately. I'm ever curious being in a new live-in relationship and all.

I don't have any feedback on your question. I know I've read something similar in "The Astrologer's Handbook" about the rising sign determining the pattern for the placement of the other houses, but I'm not at a point where I really understand it. Thanks for the link.

posted June 07, 2004 01:47 PM              

I may not be as knowledgeable as others here, but I'll give it a shot.

I've never heard of Uranus being attached to longevity, nor Neptune. Uranus is usually where you find out how often the unexpected enters into the relationship. It usually reflects the amount of freedom one or the other needs in order to grow, including friends and social needs.

Neptune is more like dreamy states, self-delusion as well as soul unions. It shows where you need to watch out for projecting attributes on your partner which he/she may not have. At the same time, when both persons believe they are just perfect for each other, that's enough to help the relationship along. A little delusion can be a good thing, but if one day you wake up and find they are nothing like your delusion, it's a hard pill to swallow.

As for lots of aspects with Jupiter and Mars, and which is more influential, like every other aspect in Synastry or in Natal there is no way to answer that in a general sense. Each relationship is different. Jupiter is optimistic, but sometimes can make someone foolish. There may be aspects which put a damper on the optimism too, so you feel like your partner is never supportive of your bold endeavors.

It just depends how able the two are willing to work on the relationship. You may have a different style of going about things, or different ways of communicating, the couple may still consider those as minor annoyances, where as to another couple, it's a deal breaker.

You have to see the entire Synastry patterns as a whole.

Thanks for asking.

.gloria

posted June 07, 2004 03:32 PM            

Venus Rising, Uranus does not add longevity to a relationship, it does add excitement and spice. Your Moon conj. Uranus, makes you Aquarian-like emotionally.(no matter what sign its in) because of the conjunction (a fusion of energys. Moon and Uranus)

When doing chart comparisons, I put the planets in the coresponding chart. (mine in thiers, thiers in mine) The more planets you have falling in thier angles (houses 1, 4, 7, and 10) the more of a up close and personal impact you will have on them. (the exception is saturn you don't want it prominate in an angle if you can help it)

I have moon and venus in Taures, so with Scorpio rising people these two planets will fall in thier 7th house. Instant sympatico. I can relate on a personal level and usually bond with these people. Very comfortable.

posted June 08, 2004 03:13 PM              

Thanks for the link!