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Topic: Interesting question about attraction...
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dianabeat
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posted June 09, 2004 05:56 PM
 
Hello everybody,
can you please give me your opinions on the folowing:
What aspects, planets and so on are responsible for making somebody "fall in love at first sight", but I mean when you really are very attracted to somebody who you don't know, so there is only a powerful physical attraction.
I know that the Sun and Moon are part of it but I think the Ascendant is even more important... but what aspects does it have to be in and with what, Mars, Venus?
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pixelpixie
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posted June 09, 2004 06:00 PM
Sun and moon aspects, yep..
Sun in the first house...
Venus aspecting Mars...(pleasure/passion)
Pluto/Venus
Off the top of my head
Jupiter/Sun would be friendship affiliationIP: Logged |
dianabeat
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posted June 09, 2004 06:09 PM
Pixelpixie,
what do you think about these two:the girl:
sun scorpio
moon aries
venus scorpio
jupiter virgo the guy:
sun aries
moon scoprio
venus aries
jupiter virgo she's crazy about him..... but she doesn't know him... (so we don't know how he would feel about her)
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proxieme
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posted June 09, 2004 06:12 PM
My husband and I have a couple of the "classic synystry indicators" going on:My 1d Aqua Moon is Conjunct his 1d Aqua Sun (which, while not quite love at first sight on that level, was a loverly happy-happy-joy-joy comfort and familiarity at first sight), his Venus is loosely conjunct my Moon (both Aqua), and my Venus is closely conjunct his Moon (both Taurus). My Venus is sextile his Mars (in Pisces). My Mars (late degree Leo) is square his Venus, though. We also have some silly Chiron stuff happening (mine's conj. his Moon; his is trine my Saturn, sextile my Uranus and Sun and square my Neptune (all tightly). As alluded to earlier, it was very much both comfortable and giddy love at first sight. In mid-point composite, we have the Sun (in Aqua) and Moon (in Pisces) both in the 4th, Venus (in Pisces) in the 5th, and Mars (in Libra) in the 7th. Taurus is on the 7th House Cusp and our Aqua Merc's in the 3rd (stable and chatty, ohh). IP: Logged |
dianabeat
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posted June 09, 2004 06:21 PM
Thank you very much for sharing this. The aspects in your situation sre virtually the same as the ones for the couple I mentioned above. Great.
Nobody's saying anythiong about the Ascendant...
Don't you think it's to do with attraction?IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted June 09, 2004 06:29 PM
My husband and I both have Scorp Ascs, so beyond being alike and digging Taurean energy...?IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted June 09, 2004 07:28 PM
I am still confused about what is love. I think it's freedom, and then sometimes I think freedom is nothing left to lose. I am trying not to hold on to someone right now. A Gemini, and I have mercury in Gemini/7th house. I feel that it's impossible to have love at first sight unless it's non physical. And most of the time it's physical and that wears off.The only time I felt love at first sight was with my psychologist a Scorpio. I couldn't touch him so it make me feel it was forbidden. Love is strange for me. Natasha
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trillian
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posted June 09, 2004 07:38 PM
I felt love at first sight with my Gem, or it was awfully close. It was not a physical relationship at its inception. The love still lasts, though there are other reasons we can't be together.I would add that some Saturn aspects can lead two people to feel love at first sight, since Saturn, if it aspects personal planets, etc., would indicate the coming together for karmic reasons. Natasha, I don't know what love is either, not to define it. But I know it when I feel it.  IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted June 09, 2004 09:17 PM
Dianabeat~the girl:
sun scorpio
moon aries
venus scorpio
jupiter virgo the guy:
sun aries
moon scoprio
venus aries
jupiter virgo
What do I think? Wowowowowowowow!
I know firsthand how powerful the attraction between Aries and Scorpio is ( especially at first) The fact that you have the sun/moon conjunction both ways, wowowowow.
What about Mars?
Same generation, so the Jupiter isn't a biggie, in terms of uniqueness, but will help with understandings... but it does sextile her Venus and Sun and his moon. Moon conjunct Venus in both cases. Both of you having Sun conjunct Venus within your own charts would deepen your expression in love for that particular sign.
Suns five signs away... hmmm.... not a major aspect.. what can anyone say about that?
I do know though from personal experience, between Aries and Scorpio, that when the good is good, it's great. When friction occurs, go to the bedroom immediately.. or the nearest sturdy structure 
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Oxychick
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posted June 09, 2004 10:31 PM
dianabeat, sun conjunct moon is a big indicator of sure-fire, long-lasting attraction. I've noticed a lot of couples that I know who keep coming back to each other have this aspect. What are the mars signs? IP: Logged |
Cancerian718
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posted June 10, 2004 08:49 AM
Dianabeat,Here is a great link to a site that explains such attraction aspects:
http://www.widgetsworld.co.uk/search/print.php?art_id=868 IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted June 10, 2004 11:49 AM
Hi there D~Well, according to the book "Parkers Astrology:" pg.213
"The strongest link" is an exact opposition between one partner's Sun and the other's Ascendant. In really good relationships we often find this present to the same degree.
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I just picked up a new book "The Instant Astrologer" by Lynn Birkbeck -AWESOME---
according to him:
Sun Opposition Asc.
Two Halves Make a Whole
This is one of the two most significant interations of all. This is because the will or ego of one of you finds its mirror or shadow in the manner and presentation of the other person --and visa versa. Essentially, each of you is the other's 'other half'--or at least, seems to be. Depending on your respective levels of self-awareness, each of you may or may not like some of this because it reflects back a part of yourselves that you have yet to come to terms with: your shadows. But just because you are embodying or reflecting each other's other half, there is a strong attraction between you-at least initially. As time goes by, seeing each of your alter egos externalized in the other in this way can provide a feeling of being made complete by each other. But, as I have just pointed out, it can at times be objectionable to one or both of you. The great secret for success here, is to 'take back your projection', this is, to recognize and accept that it is your 'other half', warts and all, that makes you a more complete, and a stronger and better, person. In turn, this would possibly give you a relationship to match. As ever, a great deal depends upon the other meeting of soul-mates, this interaction can so sharpen your sense of who you are or appear to be that, as a result of it, you are more able to recognize and attract someone who really is your other half-because of having learned what this really is in you. Alrighty, there you have it, is this what you were looking for?? I highly recommend this book, Borders just got them in last week, $39.99.....but it is AMAZING, very easy to use...comes with a CD to do charts with...the CD is somehow protected so you can't print from it....they offer some service to do it for you---haven't checked into that yet....
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sthenri
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posted June 10, 2004 12:08 PM
Noreenz, is that one person's sun opposite another's ascendant? If so then I would have to agree on that, it is difficult though to ignore the parts of our personality we do not like if we have a lot of Virgo in our chart. That's a very accurate description.As for Sun conjunct Moon, it is a very strong physical attraction as well. Natasha
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Cancerian718
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posted June 10, 2004 12:27 PM
Out of curiosity, in the Sun and Moon conjunction...who feels more of the physical attraction...the Moon towards the Sun right? And the Sun would feel more of an emotional attraction toward the Moon person?IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted June 10, 2004 01:11 PM
Hi Natasha-
Yes, it is one persons's Asc. opp others Sun.
It is pretty much a book on Synastry.
Also, here is what it says regarding:
Sun conj. (uniting with) Moon
Soul Mates?
Wahatever your sexes, ages or positions in life, this interation gives a definite feeling of being connected in some way if not many ways. There is a feeling of familiarity, despite anything else that might or might not be happening between you both. It is as if one of you, the 'Sun', has the other 'Moon', fixed in their beam, as if they are illuminating their inner or emotional being. Depending on other factors, particularly sexual or status ones, this can make the 'Moon' feel overwhelmed or greatly impressed, or somehow inferiour or even at the 'Sun's' command. As the 'Moon' person reflects this back, the 'Sun' feels this happening, and depending on what kind of ego they have, can feel empowered and then become anything from dominating to feeling strangely or uncomfortably superior. At another level - when there are plenty of other strong interactions - you may feel like soul-mates. After a short while though, it can make a great difference as to what sex the 'Sun' and 'Moon' are. When the 'Sun' is male and the 'Moon' female, the above descriptions lean towards the positive, for the male solar 'radiating' and the female lunar 'receiving' are in their natural and comfortable roles. In fact, if this is the case, it almost acts as a demonstration of this phenomenon, flying in the face of contemporary ideas of men and women being the same (as distinct from equal). When it is reversed, the female can uncomfortably feel that the man should be making the moves but he doesn't for his is waiting, possibly quite awkwardly, for her to do so. If the man should make the move, the woman then feels equally uncomfortable. Then again, it could be a case of you both actually getting something out of such a role reversal. But here too, yet this time not so obviously, the basic differences between male and female are experienced. If both of you are the same sex, then one might say the 'Sun' as being the 'parent' and the 'Moon' as being the 'child'. This may litterally be the case, and this interaction would then be highly suitable. However, an older 'child' and a younger 'parent' could be curiously enlightening or plain awkward. To sum up, basic connectedness is what this interaction is all about, but other more personal and idiosyncratic interations would indicate whether such a basis has anything worth building upon it.Good stuff I tell ya!!!! Have to run off to Dentist... when I get back I'll post his discription of 'Venus Conj. Uranus' (Love Brings Change) according to him this is one of the most mutually and instantly attracting interactions in the book - literally. IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted June 10, 2004 01:35 PM
My hubby and I had a "Love at first sight" experience. Two weeks after we started dating, we wanted to run off to Vegas and get married. We didn't though. We thought our families would freak out. So, we waited 6 years from the day we first exchanged "I love yous".He: Taurus/Libra/Scorpio
Me: Libra/Cancer/Gemini My Sun is conjunct his Moon.
My Sun is conjunct his Pluto.
My Moon is sextile his Sun.
My Moon is trine his Mars.
My Moon is square his Uranus.
My Venus is sqare his Sun.
My Venus is sextile his Uranus.
My Jupiter is sextile his Mercury
My Saturn is sextile his Sun.
My Saturn is trine his Mars. I'm not so good with interpretations... any one care to interpret?
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Cancerian718
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posted June 10, 2004 02:00 PM
Noreenz,Thank you for posting that description about the Sun-Moon conjunction. Its very interesting and true! Me and my bf share that aspect Does that book say anything about aspects to the ASC or DESC of the partner? His Venus and Saturn conjunct my DESC and my mercury conjuncts his ASC. Thanks! IP: Logged |
dianabeat
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posted June 10, 2004 02:56 PM
Thank you ever so much for replying everybody.
The Marses of the couple I meantioned earlier are:
the girl - leo
the guy - saggitarius
The Saturns:
the girl - virgo
the guy - aries
And both their Jupiters are in the same sign because they were born about 10 years apart, not the same generation.IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted June 10, 2004 05:09 PM
Hi Librasparkle~Ok-
Sun con (uniting with) Pluto
Darkness & Light
This is a journey into the underworld - with or without a torch!
Moon trine (harmonizing with) Mars
Energetic Accord
You have a vibrant interaction here that enables you, individually or as a couple, to get a lot done for you tend to energize one another. Moon sq. Uranus (challenging)
Closeness Versus Distance
The needs of one of you for comfort and security are denied by the other individual's erratic nature and urge for freedom and independence. Ven. sq Sun (challenging)
Disappointed Love
This interaction can amount to being one of Cupid's most capricious darts. Ven. Sextile Uranus (assisting)
Friendly Lovers
Love and freedom co-exist relatively easily, so this interaction is non-possessive-or at least, it diffuses any other indications of jealousy. Jup sextile Merc (assisting)
A meeting of Minds
You have an excellent mental apport here becuase one individual can help the other to contact and expres their visions and beliefs in a more effective way, while they in turn enable that individual to see how their ideas and attitudes fit into some broader, cultural perspective. Sat. sextile Sun (assisting)
Sober And Industrious
This interaction lends itself well to any kind of organization. These are only a brief description, actually the first sentence of each aspect, but should kinda give you a feeling about each aspect. IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted June 10, 2004 05:11 PM
OOOps Libra Sparkle,forgot about Saturn trine Mars--
(harmonizing with)
Pushing Forward Together
A combination of ease and activity makes you move or operate well together, be it on the dance floor or sports field, in the workplace or bedroom. IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted June 10, 2004 05:24 PM
Hi Cancerian718--Ven con. (uniting with) MidHeaven
A Sound Investment
This is mutually beneficial to both of you. The professional and social standing of the one of you, usually the MidHeaven person, provides a sense of position, worth and belonging to the other, probably Venus, person. In turn, Venus acts as muse or aesthetic touchstone to the other individual, helping them to attune themselves to what pleases and is profitable in the world of commerce and art.
(note: this is the whole description to this aspect, it was short so I typed the whole thing) Sat. Conj (uniting with) MidHeaven
Win-Win or Lose-Lose
You are both in positions of power and influence, relatively speaking. This means, for example, that one of you could be in a position of material power, while the other is in a position of emotional or psychological power. Mercury Conj. Asc. (uniting with)
Food For Thought
One individual will act as a sounding board to the other, who will in turn give them back food for thought. Again, for the most part these are only a brief description of the aspects, if only I had more time and shorter finger nails (lol) Noreen IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted June 10, 2004 05:29 PM
Ok, here is the other aspect that Mr. Birkbeck seems to feel that is a very important in Synastry:
Venus Conjunct (uniting with) Uranus
Love Brings ChangeThis is one of the most powerful mutually and instantly attracting interactions
in the book ~ literally. One, or probably both, of you is swept off their feet
by the extraordinary, possible otherwordly, quality they perceive in the other
person. You are also both drawn to the style and/or beauty of each other. In
fact the actual circumstances of your meeting could be otherworldly in some way,
presaging the unusual nature and course of your relationship itself. If we take
a brief look at the Greek myth of the god Uranus it wil give us some idea of why
this is such an irresistible attraction. Uranus was the 'god of gods', Heaven,
who lay across Gaia, the Earth, and Creation then came about. One of his sons,
Saturn, strongly disapproved of his random way of ruling and deposed him by
scything off his sexual organs and casting them into the sea. From the blood
and foam of his severed genitals Aphrodite ('born of foam') or Venus was born.
so you can see what a strong pull there would be between the man and his member!
But the symbolism of this is that Uranus wants his power back and Venus wants
the freedom to wield it. What all this adds up to is that each of you sees in
the other an opening to make more of yourselves and life-although at the time of
meeting the feelings are mainly sexual, not surprisingly. But then surprise is
the element here, because the wind or tide of this interaction sets you off on a
course you wouldn't have accounted for - and quickly too. It is important to
recognize and understand the process that is going on here - namely that one or
both of you is being given a sharp awakening with regard to the nature of your
social/asthetic values and possibly unconscious, desire for change, and of the
unusual effect you can have upon others. Effectively then, this interaction
launches both of you into a very different orbit to the one you've been used to.
But once the excitement and pyrotechnics of the launch is over there is that
journey into the unknown to be reckoned with. What this is saying is that your
relaitonship is only going to be as stable as your awareness of what it's really
about and of where it's going. Failing this, and 'abort mission' light may well
start to flash as the intensity of the interaction becomes too hard to handle.
But this could simply be owing to your trying to repeat the thrill of the launch
when you are already in flight. Once airborne, the force of the relationship
could progressively take you somewhere new, refreshing itself as it goes. But
whether or not you continue to experience this together depends greatly upon the
presence of more long-lasting and stabilizing interaction - otherwise it could
just be a case of 'Wow! What happened there?'
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posted June 10, 2004 06:19 PM
Thanks Noreen! How very accurate your assesment is. We really tend to ballance each other out. He's a very grounded Taurus, I'm a rosey glasses, up in the clouds kind of Libra.IP: Logged |
Cancerian718
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posted June 10, 2004 10:00 PM
Hi Noreenz,Thanks a lot for those descriptions. But I meant Venus and Saturn conjunct the Descandant not Midheaven. Another way of putting that would be Venus and Saturn in opposition to the Ascendant.
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noreenz
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posted June 11, 2004 02:41 AM
ha,ha,ha, oooopsie...........I guess that would make sense had I stopped for a sec. and thought about it.......I thought perhaps MidHeaven was just another name for Asc. (can ya tell I haven't gotten that far yet??? LOL)Anyways, how about these then, LOL: Venus Opp (confronting) Asc.
Real or Fanciful Love
On the face of it, this interaction is highly favourable for marriage or any kind of romantic or affectionate relationship. One of you senses that the other is the one who will make them happy and socially complete, while they respond accordingly. And so all these matters can be excellently starred-but there is always the danger of superficiality and/or social convention. This means to say, that the 'idea' of marriage and living-happily-ever-after, or simply being too 'social', can superimpose itself on the emotional reality of both of you. How long it takes before any cracks show is very dependent on what other interactions you have between you. If there is plenty of harmony or depth elsewhere, then this interaction would live up to its promise and, indeed, contentment with one another will persist. If there are difficulties with the gilt fading, then one or maybe both of you should bear in mind that the beauty, worth and lovability that they initially perceived in their partner was really their own unrecognized beauty, worth and lovability projected onto them. On the other hand, one or both of you may need to learn not to please at the cost of losing sight of who they are in their own right. Saturn Opp (confronting) Ascendant
The 'Conventional' Relationship
Your relationship imposes great responsibilities upon one another. These can be regarded as the essence of the relationship, with the enjoyment of the sense of purpose and stability that this confers, or your time together can seem like a long and meaningless haul up a steep and rocky road. A third alternative is that one or both of you is not ready for such responsibility and so the relationship never really gets off th ground in the first place, or that it limps along just for a bit. This interaction is the ultimate acid test of a relationship, for it says 'Can you relate properly?' The ultimate prize here is one of harmony and order combined, and it is your porgressive working through all the trials and tribulations that earns you this. If you get to a point along this course and then wonder what it is all for, then you would need to take a less conventional look at the nature of relationship generally and of your own in particular. On this score of 'conventional' relationship, there is a possibility that originally you got together entirely for reasons of status, convenience tradition or money. If such is the case, you would be fortunate indeed if this need to review your relationship from a more emotionally valid standpoint never arises. Yet another possibility that extends from this is one of marrying someone who is beneath or above you. This can appear to preclude emotional difficulties as the 'lwer' person is taken care of and can't complain, whereas the 'higher' person feels in charge and emotionally invulnerable. But this can backfire as one or both people feel less and less emotional satisfaction, and may look for it elsewhere. This interaction demands that each of you own up to you respective shadow - the part or parts of yourself you do not like, openly express or admit to - rather than being married to it in the form of someone who appears un-likeable to you! And, thank you for my mistake to my attention......cuz now I'll know. 
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