posted June 15, 2004 01:20 PM              

Was just wondering why I feel more comfortable in social situations when I'm working, and why otherwise, I'm a total social retard.

Whenever I've tried to bring more social time to my life, I've done it by taking certain jobs around people.

I have a 5th House Sun in Libra, and a 9th House Saturn. It wouldn't seem I'd have this problem.

My Midheaven (MC) is in Aquarius at 14.57 degrees. My 5th House Sun is at 9.37 degrees. Could this be an "opposition" I've overlooked, since the 5th is ruled by Leo?

My 3rd House of Communication is ruled by the Moon - my Moon is in Cancer in the 3rd House! Weird, huh? Do you see anything here?

How about -

My 11th House of Social stuff is ruled by Neptune - my Neptune is in Scorpio in the 6th?

posted June 15, 2004 01:33 PM              

"Moon in opposition with Saturn.

You don't have much faith in people seeing what is good about you on first meeting. You want to do something for them, somehow show them by action and work what you are really about. You are never a lightweight, for you take feelings very seriously. Sometimes you can't help but be a party-pooper. You won't just let your feelings out without examining them. Contact with others may have the effect of putting them in touch with their more serious side. Some may see you as religious or meditative."

posted June 15, 2004 03:31 PM              

Maybe your body needs to be around those who are brisk and efficient for some reason? With Neptune in the 6th, you are an emotional force that can be leaned on, you have a talent for helping others and it's a strong one.

You make me feel more stable just reading your posts, so keep it up.

posted June 15, 2004 05:37 PM              

Prox -
Now I don't feel so bad, if your Aqua dude deals with it too! If anything, Aqua's are even better than Libra's at making friends and getting involved and stuff.

And maybe your Virgo Saturn has a similar effect on those w/hard aspects as does my Virgo Venus. The strays. The fixer-upper's. The misunderstood eccentrics.

Aphrodite -
Yup - I scare them away, and I'm like, what the F just happened? Me having worked in corporate early on for several years kind of made me more that way, since I never wanted to rely simply on my "charm" to get by. Stupid feminist psycho craap from the 80's.

The more comfortable I am with someone, the quieter I am.

Natasha -
I have never been, and can never be motivated by money. Work is never completely positive. If I work alone I overwork, and if I work with others... well... I don't play well with everybody, and I'm not robot woman when it comes to work anymore.

As for being around the brisk & efficient, it's good for a while, until I feel overworked, and then I start putting my feet up on the desk. They just LOVE that! Not to mention they begin to wonder if I've turned schitzo.

Thank you for letting me know about Neptune in the 6th and being someone people can lean on like that, but that too has proved draining, as I've not had much luck finding friends or lovers who stick around to sort of make sure I'm OK too... so it's a double-edged sword.

Looks like I've got some challenges, but I'm working on it. When you've spent most of your life trying to make other's happy, or trying to play out a career role someone else expected of you; let's just say, the best is yet to come.

posted June 15, 2004 07:55 PM              

I don't think I get 'stabs' out of Gloria's posts so much as I usually always just feel that she really likes to give a lot of thoughtful analysis back to us instead.

I think that she is probably just being a faithful Libra, lol.

I think she is great to have around here.

Playful

posted June 15, 2004 08:20 PM              

"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."

-René Descartes

I took that quote to heart. In all of the f*cked up patterns in my family, I questioned my reality, and I’ll tell you what my social reality is a huge part. If ya know what I mean. So instead of looking at your chart to figure what is wrong, look at your life.

posted June 16, 2004 10:03 AM              

Please.

Deflecting possible suggestions and using information from poster's personal lives as examples is hardly insightful.

Calling Corri's friends and husband strays and fixer uppers is plain rude, and not an excuse for one's own dilemma.

Charm in getting by? Hello! We were talking about getting to know people initially in any setting. Nobody cares on the first hello if a potential friend WON'T be polite or socially astute because they worked in a corporate culture and reek feminism.

posted June 16, 2004 11:52 AM              

You ok, Sweety? (a *real* question, and not meant to be rude!)

posted June 16, 2004 11:56 AM              

My G*D, these Saggies are gonna be the death of me! You know what bright insight I had today though? I was talking with our au pair about astrology, reincarnation and stuff, and I realized, I'm SURROUNDED by saggies (gramma, bro, 2 uncles and my son, as well as diverse good friends), and my north node is in Saggie--meaning that I have to develop in the direction of a saggie. Do you think that those two facts have anything to do with one another? I really get along with them...I just hope I don't turn into one--I can't afford to forget everything I spent so long trying to remember!! lol

posted June 16, 2004 08:35 PM              

For example, I was set to meet with a collective for a business loan this week but was told that they don't it like that anymore, instead the quorum? meets on a weekend trip and it's all very informal, they inform me of their decision by phone. Now I would have preferred to have my busy body over there with paperwork and see everyone but that's partly because of my 10th house and 6th house planets and partly because my Mercury is ruled by Gemini in the 7th.

I need to learn the Gemini lesson of stillness. Gemini rules bees and being a busy little bee, I can always be treated to some stillness for a while. In order to live though, I must work, in order to feel, I have to be in touch with lots of people, that's a very Gemini trait, so I refresh by working. And my plutonian 8th house moon must refresh by visiting dynamic relationships.

Work is appreciated for different reasons, I tend to like the appreciation and compensation money infers because for so long I worked for very little and in Plutonian fashion worked upwards slowly but surely. Women these days still do not get all the appreciation they deserve and want even in 2004! Hopefully women will receive everything they hope for and dream for in 2005.

I don't know if it's my 8th house moon that resonates so much with women and work, but I suspect it's that and my 4th house Chiron.

posted June 16, 2004 09:30 PM              

I guess that my bumbling Aqua Moon's struck again.

I didn't see anything offensive anywhere until...well...people took offense.

posted June 19, 2004 10:33 AM              

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Hopefully women will receive everything they hope for and dream for in 2005.

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posted June 19, 2004 11:32 AM              

PISCES sun, TIGER chinese year, LEO moon, . .. CAPRICORN midheaven and pallas,

mercury, venus, jupiter, ceres, and juno in AQUARIUS

chiron and ascendant ARIES, saturn and mars in GEMINI, uranus, pluto, and vesta in LIBRA, neptune and north node SAGITARRIUS

i'm missing scorpio, virgo, cancer, taurus--my sister's a cancer. no one in my family that i know of is scorpio, virgo, or taurus--

anyway, my lack of earth energy may have something to do with it;

i was considered a 'snob' at my high school . . . by the snobs .. .i think i'm just very choosy about who i'll spend my time with (i saw no one as a suitable friend toward the end of high school)- very hard time finding anyone i have things in common with, and i am bored by everyday things; it's more interesting to me to stare at a wall than listen to normal conversation

posted June 19, 2004 01:39 PM              

That's me to, sometimes I'd rather stare at a wall... thanks for admitting you are a social retard too. We should start an SRA with a 12-step program (hee hee).

The frustrating thing sometimes is, we DO want to connect to people, and it's like, I'm a good person - so what's the problem...

Sometimes we don't mix well because we wear our heart on our sleeve, yet, we do our best to look confident and strong and become successful at it.

You make decisions based more on your heart, than in facts and logic. So although there may be a lot of people who'd like to get to know you, maybe you're just holding out for that "heart" feeling. But you won't go with just any bumbling fool who makes your heart pound, he's got to be grounded and financially stable.

For some reason, when I looked over the placements you posted, I immediately said, AQUARIUS! Have you ever had good experiences with Aqua's? Maybe one with some Earth influences.

As for what the Houses stand for etc., here is an excellent source, easy to read:::
www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm