posted July 01, 2004 01:51 AM              

My "old man" is 7 years older than me. (he's 33) Oldest guy I've been with. It's not that big of a difference, I know. Although you could never tell by looking at him. He looks much younger, maybe its Leo in his 1st. He has Cancer rising, but it's at 29 degrees, so the whole sign of Leo is in his 1st.

Which brings me to another point. I'm Cap. rising. I've read that two people in a relationship with opposing rising signs, have somewhat of a magnetic attraction towards one another. They often make each other feel complete or whole. It is also found in alot of marriages. These people often feel it is very hard to seperate from each other, even when they want to. Anyone else noticed this?

Saturn is the Ruler of my chart, with Cap. rising. So where Saturn is placed has much importance for me in this lifetime. I know I have many lessons to learn in the relationship department. They are also very important to me, and they are not usually easy. I don't enter into a relationship without alot of serious thought about it - don't take it lightly. For most people I think this is true, but even more so for people with this placement.

I have to say, I've always been a lone wolf. Even though of course I had relationships throughout my life - I've usually prefered being alone. Love alone time. I've read this placement shows someone who in past livetimes has shut themself off from society too much (something I've contemplated on doing alot ) And they now MUST interact with others.

I've also read that the sign on the cusp of your 7th house is what you look for in a partner, and any planets placed there color this also. It is also how YOU act in a partnership. I find it interesting having Cancer on this cusp, showing I'm looking for a mother in a mate. And also act motherly in partnerships. And with Saturn in this house - Saturn represents the Father - showing I'm looking for a mother and a father in a mate??? My Mars is in the 7th too. Both Mars and Saturn being in Leo in my case. I've definitly had my share of Martian type mates. And also BEEN the Mars type of mate. If you are not acting out the energies of your 7th house - your partner will - I'm told. And have found to be true.

Saturn is where we have many lessons to learn. Our karma is here. It is a focal point in our lives that is usually very "heavy".

Also Saturn will start its transit of my 7th house at the end of July. Feels like the lessons ol' Saturn has been givin' me my whole life are gonna start getting heavier.
Anyone going through a transit of Saturn in the 7th now, or recently? Wish me luck.

I'd love to hear any thoughts on any of this.

posted July 01, 2004 08:27 PM              

I have no idea what influences that. Maybe my Moon in Cancer Opposite Saturn in Capricorn? Or Moon Sextile Asc? Or Saturn trine Asc?

Dunno...

posted July 08, 2004 03:13 AM              

I have a pretty big Capricorn influence in my chart since I have a stellium in it, my Saturn is in it, and my sun is in the tenth house, so I really understand what you mean by needing time alone. It's not that I go out of my way to not be around people- I don't hiss at people when they approach me- on the contrary, I consider myself pretty friendly- but I just like the feeling of being alone.

I do think Antonio Banderas and Johnny Depp are more appealing than most young celebrities though .

posted July 08, 2004 03:39 AM              

Antonio is a Leo with Venus in Virgo (Earth), and Saturn in Capricorn

posted July 08, 2004 03:42 AM              

Don't start thinkin' about older men OR younger men for that matter! Do your homework! That's all.

Okay, sorry! I'm back.
You sound like a cool chick! Us Saturn in the 7th's love, love, love that alone time. We'd go insane without it I think.

And mmmmmm.... yes..... Antonio. Yummy.

posted July 08, 2004 05:24 AM              

....Auntie 26T! ahhhahahhahaha

posted July 08, 2004 08:56 AM              

Wow, what a coinky-dink astro junkie. Astrology just gets more amazing everyday, eh?

Lalalinda- I'm just glad I got to start young, it's a lot more interesting than anything we learn in school. Well, maybe besides English.

Thanks 26taurus- it's one of my favorite quotes =).

So, people with Saturn in the 7th house usually marry late? Hmm, what about people with Neptune and Uranus in the 7th house in addition to Saturn? I hear having Uranus in the 7th house usually makes you have unconventional ideas about marriage, which is pretty true in my case.

posted July 08, 2004 12:33 PM              

Here's a ton of info:::

Uranus in 7th
http://groups.msn.com/interpretations4/uranusin7th1.msnw

Neptune in 7th
http://groups.msn.com/interpretations3/neptunein7th1.msnw

Natasha -

I had to say, remember that a man's age has nothing to do with who's in control or if it's mother/child relationship - hee hee - and just had to say since I do only date younger guys, it's NOT because I think I'm old and wiser. It's just a mutual thing. The idea of a lover being clingy, or of regressive behavior, is SCARRRRYYYY to me. Through the years, I've often observed it's easier for me to have that "brotherly friend" vibe with younger guys. I'm able to be, (or feel) more independent. Older guys are more into the "old school" romance, wanting to pin me down right away.

I think that's an interesting question about Saturn in the 1st for a woman, and if she ends up with younger guys, opposite of a 7th House Saturn. Well, here's some stuff, see what you all can extrapolate from it:::

posted July 08, 2004 07:28 PM              

26Taurus - I recall reading somewhere that if you have Saturn in the 7th house that you should be careful not to marry before your first Saturn return otherwise it will be a marriage where you learn alot the hard way and your marriage could crumble. Or maybe it was something about Chiron?? I could be wrong. Can anyone else verify this??

posted July 09, 2004 12:15 PM              

I'm attracted to older guys too. But my intesnse relationships have been with younger guys.

posted July 09, 2004 02:29 PM              

Just wanted to jump in here and quote a reply that I recieved back from a well known name in astrology. It is important for us Saturn in the 7th's to know.

I was asking for her observations on Saturn in the 7th and successfullness of marriages before the Saturn return and such. I was getting a little worried, and wanted some more insight.

quote:

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Statistically, half of all marriages fail, wherever you Saturn is. Early marriages may be a bit shakier, and pre-Saturn return people are under 30, so that may tip the scale a percentage or two. Saying that most 7th house Pre-Saturn return people will surely divorce is a ridiculous and destructive belief. It isn’t observable in my data base, and my data base is huge. Whoever purports this bit of misinformation perhaps needs to do some review.

Where Saturn is in the natal chart is where we take things seriously, where we feel tested, run into our dark shadows, where we find our vulnerability, self-disgust and also our greatest potential, ambition and goals. It can be a place of great failure and great achievement, the operant word is GREAT. Where Saturn resides, things are terribly important. Why? Because that is the area of life were we meet the ways and means of finding inner wholeness, inner completion. Saturn in the 7th says DON’T LOOK FOR INNER PEACE AND COMPLETION IN A PARTNER, LOOK FOR IT IN YOURSELF.

When 7th house Saturn people get that, they form some pretty amazing relationships, reflections of their own self-development. That can happen at the first Saturn opposition (age 14), the second square (21) the first return 29ish) or NEVER! It’s up to the individual. Does this make sense?

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Well this makes me feel a little better. I hope it helps some of you too.

26

posted July 18, 2004 08:33 PM              

Natasha
Taurus