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Archer
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posted August 01, 2004 10:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can someone explaing me this ***** ? http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064484025&nhor=3&go.x=6&go.y=14

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pixelpixie
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posted August 01, 2004 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a Grand Trine and two T-squares.
What do you need explained?

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 12:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why is she such a b***h? anyway, is she a powerful lady? is there any solution to her dominance?

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, which grand trine?

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jwhop
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posted August 02, 2004 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer, she is a powerful lady and you're not going to dominate her. If you're engaged in a game of dominance, I would say give it up, she knows how to play that game. She's also quick with Mercury in Virgo and Aquarius rising so don't even think about attempting to manipulate her. She'll see right through it and it won't be appreciated, not at all.

She probably has surprised you at times with what you might think rapid changes in direction and you may have a hard time trying to figure her out. She likes it that way

Come on too strong with someone who is strong Aquarius and they usually react one of two ways, either run when they feel pressure or push you away. I think this Leo Sun, Taurus Mars woman will push you away...hard when or if you try to get too close emotionally, too fast.

Is she working on something that's important to her right now? Something a relationship might interfere with?

Of course, this is just my opinion and it may be worth exactly what you paid for it

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 02:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first of all she is a cappy rising.
secondly its she who maniulates us and plays tricks on us (me, my bro and my dad).

i want to just get rid of her. she has old ideologies and cheap means to get her things done. she wants to dominate people a dn says from now itself that me and my bros' wife wll have to do exactly what she says. as a double sag its impossible for me to accept this stupidity and indian **** . she is my mother. real mother yet she is worse than a b***h!my double aries father is completey frustrated and my double leo brother manages it somehow. her biggest target is me who has survved so long but can't take her anymore

for one thing...she has a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig mouth. which she uses for easy offence.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 02, 2004 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So do you.. that's your mom... don't call her that. Accept it, but I mean how long do you really have to put up with it for? You are in school, are you not? So get out of the house, or hold your tongue, knowing you will leave soon, and relax!!!
People rarely change. If you have a problem with her, so be it... but rem,ember that this woman gave birth to you, but not only that, still keeps you in her home. She is allowed to be dominant for now, it is her job, her home, her right. When you leave, then you can talk.
I don't normally feel this way or say these things.. not blind allegiance, but.. I feel strongly in this case, based upon what I know of you, Neerav, that you have major issues with taking orders from others, or 'bending' to anyone's will. I appreciate that, but at the same time, be realistic! Put it in perspective.
Bite your tongue, appreciate. Have you ever really lost someone close to you? Think of these issues in terms of importance.. does she pi$$ you off? Yeah? Well, you probably pi$$ her off too. Such is life, such is family. But underneath this structure is love. People show it in frustrating ways sometimes. Bend a bit.. I'm sure she isn't that bad. Family structures come in all forms, you are mature enough to know if you can't accept it? Change it. Remove yourself if it is intolerable. Don't you dare calll her a biatch to her face!

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pixelpixie
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posted August 02, 2004 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of Cappy rising? It is in the late 29th degree.... Aquarius is her entire first house. I think that is a pretty dominant force. To look at her chart, not 'read' it, one would see Aquarius.

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NikiSpeedy
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posted August 02, 2004 02:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer -- Don't know how old u are, but it seems to me that's it's time for you to leave home and make your own life -- this way you get to CHOOSE who u are around and u can leave behind so many of the problems that seem to plague you in your family.

I bet we would see you posting something positive then. I would really like to see you get a grip, as all that naturally exuberant and happy Sag is going to waste.

Take care bud --

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astro junkie
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posted August 02, 2004 03:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... Whiney men are unbearable to me ...

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 03:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually she has given me so much stress in childhood to bend me that now things are really bad for me. i call her a prostitute. i know i should be ashmed of myself. i am. but my depression forces me to say out everything on my mind rather than keeping it inside.

yesterday she actually called her self queen. she said, " offcourse i'm the queen of our house, who else?" irritating isn't it.

as u said that 'm in college and can move but that cncept is non existent in idnia/ the unemployement is on such a large scale that even college grads don't get job. undergrads are out of question. i did get a job of 11 grands a month at a call centre but i couldn't keep my ass there. actually depression was big time then.

moving out is quite some years now. and she will have all her dramas before we move casue as i said she wants to live with me and have her dominanating mother in law drama over my wife. besides rent is high in my city, mumbai.

i hope for the best for both of us. and hope things get well soon. her stupidity is becuase of he lack of education and workign women experience.she is a house wife after all. and add to it her recent menopause which casue her psychiatric problems. plus my double aries dad who is more of an outsides friendly then fmaily friendly.

anyway, here i'm not complaining about life. i accept it the way it is. but i just wanted to have an insight into her. who has the most powerful chart of the four....

me http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3;btyp=w2gw;cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064484025&nhor=1[/ URL]

my dad [URL=http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064484025&nhor=2&go.x=22&go.y=2]http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064 484025&nhor=2&go.x=22&go.y=2

my mom http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?go.x=22&rs=3&btyp=w2gw& cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064484025&go.y=2&nhor=3&go.x=22&go.y=8

my brother http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?go.x=22;go.x=22;rs=3;btyp=w2gw;cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064484025;go.y=2;go.y=8&nhor=10

it jus to know as to who is a moer powerful force in our family and not for anykind of power struggle.

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 03:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
please give me some insight

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astro junkie
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posted August 02, 2004 06:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost every time you ask a question, you phrase it in terms of "who has more power"...

You know?

And I'm not sure if that's a cultural thing or what, but that mindset is not healthy.

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it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness...

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LeylaLeFay
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posted August 02, 2004 06:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first thing that jumped out at me was that she has Chiron in the first house in Aquarius! Like - woah. Tripple whammy.

What the hell happened to her? Something so painfully isolating she feels totally alone. Whatever this is it's affected her identity.

Looks like this is the source of her troubles.

And Leo women always think they're queens.

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jwhop
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posted August 02, 2004 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used my own chart program Archer and from the birth time, date and city you listed, it shows her Asc is Aquarius.

The fact she's your mother and you're living in her house is all the more reason she will impose her rules, rules you will observe or there will be trouble.

"Mars in Taurus" 4th House
She is sometimes choleric, loud and demanding. She is masterful, dominates and imposes herself forcefully. She carries on to the end of a goal and undertakes every action with a strong will and enthusiasm. She is tenacious and stubborn.

Let me repeat Archer, in a clash of wills, you're playing on her turf...she's your mother and you live in her home, she's going to expect you to live by her rules, rules of the house. I think you know exactly what I'm talking about Archer.

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i understand, there is no way out. all of ur right. i need to stop whinning and complaining.

this women has a lot of poetntial applied in the wrong direction. had she just been educated things would had been sooo different. anyway she feeds me. i rely on her. so its me who go to adjust.

but hope seperation is not miles away considering i'm 21.

anyway, i still ask, who do u think will have a more powerful influence in my family once my bro grows up. i think my bro will cause he is a double leo.

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, any insight into aqua rising?

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trillian
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posted August 02, 2004 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goodness, but you sound like the most ungrateful, spoiled little child.

In my house, I am the Queen. In her house, she is the Queen.

To be uneducated and to be stupid are two entirely different things. Your mother, housewife or not, does not sound like a stupid woman. But you have not demonstrated great intelligence or sensitivity to me. Perhaps you are much like the mother you describe?

Do you contribute to the family funds? Do you pay bills in your family? Do you wash your own dishes? Do you wash your own underwear? Do you prepare the meals? Buy toilet paper? No, I'll bet those things are always there for you.

You argue for your own limitations, rather than reaching for possibilities.

It's reprehensible to speak of your mother in such a way. She is not a prostitute...she is a married woman who maintains her household. But a child who accepts the gifts and finances of his family with only the ungrateful thing to say in return...now what does that make him?

If my adult child called me a prostitute and didn't like the rules of my home...I'd say go. Move. Support yourself. Go somewhere and be happy.

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Archer
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posted August 02, 2004 10:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mother said the same thing dear trillian. but when i collected enough money (like 13 grands) and wanted to move she prevented it all by asking my father to not let him spport me anyway. we had some adjustments made with each other which she ruined. what do u think must have my psychiatirst said to me? "move on to a differnt place". anyway, i have apologised. forget it.

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thegoat
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posted August 02, 2004 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am archer's friend, and I know about his life and have met his parents. His mother does not seem like the dominating type, but instead she seemed to be the one being dominated. She was always being told what to do, either by archer, or archer's dad. (BTW, I will add that she's a pretty good cook.)

Anyway, so archer's parents are not going to act the way they would with him around me, but they seemed to be okay. Personally, if I was going around doing and saying the same things he is, I would have been kicked out of the house in a heartbeat.

Archer is a perennial complainer. He is ffing 21 and a baby. I don't know if he's spoiled because he doesn't have a ps2, but there is certainly something wrong with him. I've told him so many damn times, if you really don't like it then move away. He supposedly came up with a plan to move away where his father sends him money every month, and his mother opposed that. I can't believe his father was even considering it. If I was his father, I would smack upside his head.

I conclude that archer has no real cultural or family issues he cannot overcome, but he has some mental issues that admittedly, will be difficult to overcome.

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26taurus
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posted August 02, 2004 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer,

You need a few good spankings, and a little more respect for the woman that brought you into this world. You are her child and I'm sure she loves you more than anything in the world. Try treating her a little better by not acting like such a spoiled bratt. Someday you will be out on your own, but for now try to appreciate the time you have to spend with her and all of the good things I'm sure she has done for you. Believe me, I know it's hard - but try. And don't pout because you don't have a PlayStation 2. Get a job, save up your own money and move out. (you are 18 right?) Then you will see just how fun the "real world" can be. And by supporting your self, your parents wont be able to hold anything over your head - you will be in total "power" of your own life.

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26taurus
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posted August 02, 2004 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Youre 21 Archer!!!!
Count your blessings you havnt had your a$$ kicked swiftly out the door by now!!

That's exactly what happened to me....... .....and way before I was 21!!

It is now time to do some catching up on your growing up.

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alchemiest
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posted August 02, 2004 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally I wouldn't post to something like this, but I feel compelled to.

Archer, I don't know you, and I don't know your family, so I will refrain from making any judgements, but here is my opinion.

I may not be Indian by nationality, but I am Indian by ethnicity, and so I know and understand Indian culture.

It seems to me that you expect your mother to be submissive in how she is IN HER OWN HOUSE!!! That is, in a word, absolutely retarded. I am sure that your tuition and other expenses have been paid for (and are probably still being paid for) by your parents, because that's how we Indians do . Your father may be the breadwinner of the family, especially if yours is a traditional Indian household, but ask yourself, who is your father's significant other? your MOTHER! She works as hard if not harder than him, making sure that all your needs for comfort are met, making sure that you have a nice home for you to come back to. It's as much her money as it is his, as much her house as it is his. So, not only have you been enjoying comfort under her roof for your entire life, but you have also been EDUCATED with HER money. When you mention moving out, it seems that you STILL expect to be supported by your parent's money! And after all that, you have the nerve to complain about her and insult her.
If yours is one of those Indian houses where males expect to be the top honchos in every aspect of domesticity and have complete control over the females in the house, then I really wonder who the 'backward' ones are and who is full of the 'stupidity and indian **** ' as you put it. From what thegoat said, it seems that YOU are the ones who are trying to dominate HER. Can you blame her for trying to assert herself?
Hey, it may very well be that she IS as horrible as you seem to think she is, but you haven't described a single instance where she's displayed such tendencies. You've only shown us how childish your own nature is.

A piece of advice, Archer.
Take a step back and LOOK at the situation. Then decide who's being unreasonable.

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Archer
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posted August 03, 2004 12:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If yours is one of those Indian houses where males expect to be the top honchos in every aspect of domesticity and have complete control over the females in the house, then I really wonder who the 'backward' ones are and who is full of the 'stupidity and indian **** ' as you put it.

it is that way. and i don't wnat it that way.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted August 03, 2004 03:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we're all curious to know examples- in what way, exactly, is she trying to dominate you?

I mean, besides her refusal to buy you a PlayStation2?

The story doesn't make sense.

On one hand you feel free to call her B**** and a prostitute under her own roof- which tells me she has no control of her house.

But on the other hand you say she totally dominates everyone. Which is it?

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