posted August 02, 2004 11:06 PM              

My 3 1/2 mo. old daughter Meghan's recently begun screaming like you're pulling her little baby toes off when she's lain down for the night.
The past few evenings, we've assumed it to be either her teething bothering her or her trying to test the waters to see *just how late* we'll let her stay up.
Her reaction did seem severe for those - we'd walk into her room to see tears streaming down her cheeks - but nothing else seemed like it'd make sense, especially since she only screams like that only at night.

Tonight, though, my husband said, "Maybe she's scared of the dark..." I shrugged it off at first, but she started crying again and when I went to calm her I saw a look of abject terror on her face. Before I went over to her, I flicked on the light and closed the door. Her crying stopped immediately.

Now, this may be a stretch, and it may be just my imagination on overdrive, but I've heard that some psychics were terrified of the dark when they were younger, that being the only time when they could see spirits.

Do any of ya'll see inclinations towards such in Meg's chart?

posted August 02, 2004 11:15 PM            

We use nightlights. You can get the ones that automatically go on when its dark and shut off in the light, to save on electricity. It also helps later on, for toilet training, middle-of-the-night-trips.
If it is too much for her room, how 'bout a hallway one?

posted August 02, 2004 11:29 PM              

What jumped out at me was Pisces ruling the 8th house and Cancer - the twelfth. Water signs are usually sensitve, and those two houses are naturally ruled by water signs anyway. And Uranus in the 8th - this is a psychic placement. I don't know if it is that she is afraid of the dark - but I do see some indications of psychic sensitvity in her chart. Neptune aspecting the moon is also one.

posted August 02, 2004 11:45 PM            

I don't recall ever seeing spirits, although I did point out an angel to my mother one night (the night before she left my dad). A little while later my sister also saw something that she thought was a bird. Christa (my sister) has occasionally seen and heard things, including the spirit of my Aunt Barbara when I was ten, she was eight. I felt something and became very scared; she saw her, but didn't say anything until the next morning, when she described her to Mum. When we had to share a bed, she would insist on being next to the wall.

Anyway, you can see our charts here:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/awd.cgi?cid=a1qfileQM89Gu-u1055893760
If that doesn't work, my data is April 14th, 1975, 8:40pm, Hillingdon, England (51N32, 00W27, I think).
My sister: December 26th, 1976, 12:45pm, Santa Rosa, CA. She has a Pisces moon in the 12th, squaring Neptune.

Angela

posted August 02, 2004 11:49 PM            

My brother (a fellow sag) is the same way. Mr. Taurus, he can sleep in the day light. He has the brightest alarm clock, the shades are not even adequate to keep out the light (I'll be fixing that come September)..LOL...In fact, I can't even sleep if the computer is on in the other room.

Come to think of it, my ex- Mr. Leo didn't like it pitch black either. He, like your little one and Mr. Taurus, had Neptune in the 7th house.

My little Nephew also likes it pitch black (Scorp Sun) hmm...maybe it is the influence of Pluto. My brother has a Scorp Moon, I have Pluto rising and Little pee wee is a Scorp with an Aries rising. Your little one also has Pluto in the 5th house of Creativity - Romance along with a Leo rising. Mr. Taurus has Sun conjunct Ascendant in Taurus - Lending a leonine quality and Pluto in the 5th.

So...people with Scorp risings, Pluto risings or Sun / Moon in Scorpio - do you find that you embrace the darkness? If not, do you have a Leo rising, Leo Sun or Pluto in the 5th house?

posted August 03, 2004 04:03 AM              

I know you are going to tell me this could not possibly be happening, and maybe you're right, but better safe than sorry.

Most children who are sexually abused are attacked in their own beds at night. Like pavlov's dog they learn, not to be "afraid" of the dark like a normal child, but to be overwhelmed by anxiety and grief when put to bed.

Sitting up awake with tears streaming down their wee faces, waiting for the next attack.

They'll often wake up the whole house with peeling shrieks at any strange noise or shadow, which could be someone coming to "get" them.

Please don't hate me- but your description was so vivid. So I had to say something just in case.

posted August 03, 2004 05:02 AM              

I have a Pluto rising and always loved to sleep in pitch black. However, both my mother & brother who have Moon in Scorpio need some light.

posted August 03, 2004 10:35 AM              

Gemini - Bringing her into the room has crossed our minds, but this started-up only a few nights ago. Also (and, again, I don't know why I didn't write this part last night), she's begun screaming before we set her down - that is, during the last feeding of the night. Once I relent and no longer try to feed her, she calms down (which led us think that it could be painful teething or simple anticipation of separation).
Could she have reached a stage of psychological development where she's started to realize that she's alone in the room (or is about to be)?

26t - Thank you
And thank you for pointing out the aspects and placements.
I thought that the Neptune aspects might play a part, but I didn't know about the others.

teasel - Descriptions such as ya'll's reactions to spirits're what brought me to think that that could be the case with Meg.
My step-mom comes from a family of 12 kids (about 1/2 I think being adopted or foster children), and she says that several could see spirits and that a brother and sister could communicate across distances. She has several stories of those affected being absolutely terrified when they were younger, even though they don't see anything in particular about those that they saw to be afraid of.
I'm not surprised re: your sister especially. This is far from an exhaustive study, but at least most of those that I've known with a 12th House Moon *or* their Moon in Pisces have had a touch of sight, and the one that I've known of with both has predictive capabilities.

pid - I'm a Scorp Rising and prefer absolute quiet (with maybe natural sounds) and as much dark as can be managed when I sleep. Jase's one, too (though just barely), and could sleep through the Apocalypse and likes his bright blue and shining alarm clock - his 1st House Jupiter and Uranus conj. may be throwing a wrench into the works.
With that Leo Rising maybe Meghan just can't stomach it...

Leyla - Not at all re: hating you.
As a matter of fact, thank you for your concern.
I will say that in all probability that's not happening, though. We live in post housing, and it's just myself, my husband, and Meg; we haven't yet had visitors except my Mom and Dad several months ago when she was first born, and Jase's taken a cue from his Cancer Sun/Cappie Moon/Virgo Asc Pop, obsessive-compulsively checking and re-checking the locks on the door and windows whenever we go to bed (or leave the house, or sit-down to watch a movie, or...).
However both of us, in our paranoid parent minds, have been listening for anything out of the ordinary...Jase even wanted to turn off the air-conditioning last night to get rid of that noise, and then got peeved at me when I pointed-out that we're in Alabama in August. I'm pretty sure that nothing could've happened regardless of that - though Jason sleeps like a log, I may in fact be the world's lightest sleeper.
Almost anything at any point in the house rouses me.

posted August 03, 2004 11:46 AM              

I don't believe this is uncommon. Have you asked your mom about this? I do remember my mother-in-law (who raised 8) telling me several times that I just needed to let them scream until they fall asleep and that after a few nights of this the child will learn that it is time to go to sleep and the problem is solved. This worked for one of my brothers and man, as soon as he put his child in the crib, she laid her head down and out she went. "I" on the other hand had a really hard time doing this and opted to use music. I know of the "look" they can give, and yeah, its like they are totally scared out of their little minds.

The mother-in-laws philosphy was that they need to learn that they are not going to be picked up everytime they cry and that they need schedules. And it worked for "her', and again, she had quite a few children and didn't have time to fuss over every little thing, so to her it was no big deal.

posted August 03, 2004 01:57 PM            

LOL....that is so funny about your parents. My Taurus dude can sleep through anything. I was amazed, because he had worked at midnight shift on post and came home at 8am. He had something to eat and then snuggled up to me while I watching TV..He was OUT.. I mean OUT...TV on, light coming in and just snoring away. He looked so cute LOL

Now me..man even as a kid I couldn't stand night lights or light coming in from outside. I asked my mom about it and she said she would semi-freak out when she would hear me babbling away in my crib, standing up in the pitch black and just having a ball. LOL..I am a total weirdo.

Teasel - this is off topic... I have some questions about your Sag / Taurus parents. I have noticed one of the big differences between Mr. Taurus and I is I seem to be more energetic. I mean don't get me wrong, he is not lazy, but I seem to be more hyper that he is. Do you notice that with your parents? I also notice that I sometimes talk way to much and he just looks at me like I am from outer space- not in a totally nutty way, but more like "Oh great, there she goes again". What seems to be their biggest weakness and strength. I am not saying ALL Sag / Taurus couples are the same..just looking for some insights

Sorry Prox, I didn't mean to hijack your thread, I have just never been with a Taurus before and I forgot that Teaselbaby had a Sag mom / Taurus dad.

posted August 03, 2004 02:12 PM              

pid - Hijack my thread?
No worries.
I'm the Queen Hijacker.
It'd be pure hypocracy for me to mind someone following their natural train of thought taken after reading expressed views.

posted August 03, 2004 06:04 PM              

Did you recently start putting her in the crib for the night, or have you been doing that all along? Because, of course they prefer to sleep with mama (and papa, as the case may be)

My kiddo has a bit of a fear of the dark too, and she's 14 now. But, I think that's more to do with seeing too many scary movies. She's never liked complete darkness, though.

Also, Meg may just be starting to figure out that bed time means 'no more playing with mommy and daddy, and discovering the all the wonders of the world'. Bed-time is no fun, and kids will naturally fight it. And when you're dealing with a Leo-Taurus, you can bet the fight will be a gooder!

posted August 03, 2004 07:47 PM              

I can't speak astrologically, but I can speak as a mother. My kiddos are terrified of the dark. Night lights don't seem to cut it for them. Not bright enough. I found 15W bulbs at Target. They fit right into any standard lamp. They're not so bright they disturb peaceful sleep, and not so dark that you can't see into the shadows.

She's still so small, you can't just let her cry it out. If she were a few months older, that's what I would suggest. Little ones that size don't cry unless there is something to cry for.

If it's teeth you're thinking it might be, remember when I told you about the colic tablets?... well, they make teething tablets too. They're great coupled with Tylenol. They sorta take the edge off until the Tylenol has a chance to kick in... then they pass out and sleep like... well... babies

posted August 03, 2004 08:33 PM              

lioneye - That's the thing - she's been sleeping on her own for a good 2 1/2 months and in the crib for a solid 2 mos.
I don't know what's come over her all of a sudden.
re: No more playing: Yeah, that's probably it. She sure does enjoy her crazy little monkey time.

posted August 04, 2004 10:53 AM              

Has it already been 3 1/2 months since Meghan's birth? I can't believe it!

I was looking around to see what signs or planets rules eyes or eyesight, and the "opinions" run across many different ones.

"Aries ruling head - eyes"

"Mercury ruling reflexes in eyes"

"Cancer ruling eyes"

"Scorpio ruling eyesight"

It's all over the board...

As far as looking at her chart based on intuition, the only thing that I thought of was her Jupiter in Virgo in the 2nd House. Perhaps her need to SEE things in detail around her.

I also think it's interesting she has her Neptune in Aquarius, and her Uranus in Pisces, suggesting the need to have things defined before her?

Taurus Sun's too, need that physical confirmation.