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Topic: Rising Sign Different from Most of 1st of Sign
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astro junkie
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posted August 05, 2004 05:23 PM
 
Occurred to me in another thread, someone had brought up how although my Rising is in Taurus (29.48 degrees), most of my 1st House is in Gemini.I've never even stopped to think of this. How do I begin to reconcile this? Thanks. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted August 05, 2004 05:29 PM
aj - I know someone with a rising of 29 degrees Cancer - so the whole sign of Leo is in the first. This person is definatly Cancer rising but also very much Leo rising also.Also the 29th degree of any sign is called a "Critcal Degree". I have Moon at 29 degrees Virgo and find I am alot like a Libra Moon individual. But definily VMoon. Critical degrees (29th degree of any sign) are very important. I will find the info I have on this and get back to you soon.... IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted August 05, 2004 05:48 PM
I had heard differently, that 29-0 degree was "empty" but I never was sure what tat meant. According to the astrologycom.com glossary: "Critical degrees strengthen any planet placed within an orb of 3 degrees of the critical degree. Azimene degrees are those which are traditionally considered deficient or "weak", revealing a tendency to lameness, deformity, or other disability such as blindness."They have a table of the different critical degrees in each sign. I thought this was cool, since my Sun, Merc, Venus, ASC, and Moon fall on critical degrees (although my Mars falls on an azimene degree...  ). Scroll down to see the table:
http://www.astrologycom.com/zodiac2.html IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted August 05, 2004 06:02 PM
Gemini? Where do you get some of this info?
Okay, I can see you provided a link below - but there is way more to it than 29-0 degrees being "empty"."weak", revealing a tendency to lameness, deformity, or other disability such as blindness." No. Significance of the First and the Last Degree When treating the subject of particular degrees of the Zodiac, I will also mention the first and the last degree of each particular sign. Each planet that comes into contact with these degrees can have a very strong impact, although an unstable one. Liz Greene, in one of her books (The Outer Planets and Their Cycles) remarks that within one and the same sign, its characteristics are manifested most intensively at the beginning and at the end. Particularly interesting is the last degree of each sign. We are used to think that towards the end of a sign, its influence decreases, whereas the influence of the next sign starts to manifest. Here lies the surprise - at the end, its influence gets stronger again and manifests very intensively. It is as if at the last step, the sign wanted another opportunity to show its identity before the new quality starts to dominate.
Igor Ognjenovic the whole article is here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/8784/critical.html Also interesting, 29 degrees of all signs means the ending of something in predictive astrology. I'll try to find the other info I have on this. IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted August 05, 2004 07:54 PM
I read that stuff about 29 to 0 degree being "empty" in passing somewhere and I don't recall at the moment. It was a while agoa, and I didn't understand what that meant then nor have I come across anything further on that notion. Also I wasn't clear about this, but the info at astrologycom.com doesn't exactly correspond with that, although it seem several signs had 0 as their azimene. Again, I think this is probably an area of dispute among astrologers. It's like the problem I find with interpreting cusps - everyone seems to have their own view about how cusps works. The glossary at astrologycom.com seems to rely on older, traditional methods (some of which may be considered out of date by more progressive astrologers) and may not to up to date regarding newer trends, theories and ideas. The glossary also includes infos from horary and vedic astrology and isn't always clear about that. Seeing that the term "azimene" strikes me as rather Arabic, I suspect this table draws from the horary system. IP: Logged |
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posted August 06, 2004 12:54 AM
A.J
Was wondering when you were going to get around to noticing this  What this means is you have 29 degrees and 48 minutes of Taures behind you (thats a lot of Taures) and only 12 minutes left. (to get to 0 Gemini) so technically you are Taures but with a lot of Gemini in front of you. So you are naturally going to exhibit some Gemini traits. Its like experience you have behind you, with Taures and Gemini ahead.
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26taurus
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posted August 06, 2004 01:00 AM
Very well put Lala!!  IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted August 06, 2004 01:27 AM
26Taurus -
Here's a good article regarding the 29th degree which I found a while back. http://home.epix.net/~tzarathu/29th%20degree.html
LaLa -
So funny - I guess it was something you said which had me thinking and wondering. My Rising has always been a big mystery to me since I don't relate to any one. But like I've said, my mom was super drugged up due to a complicated labor, and she almost died when I was born, so it probably took me a few days to fully wake up. To this day that hasn't changed... hee hee...
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26taurus
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posted August 06, 2004 01:53 AM
Thanx aj,
I'm on my way there now.IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted August 06, 2004 02:52 AM
A.J
Was you mother on drugs or did the Dr. drug her? my youngest Andrew is a 29 degree Leo asc. with Mars 29 also but in the 1st (like 2 minutes) What happened is he nearly died and I had an emergency c-section. (to save his life) he was 6 weeks early and they did the flight for life to flagstaff. If mars had made it to the 12th house instead, he probably would not have made it. the kid is an incredible fighter (as evidenced by his little will to live) He does not know the meaning of fear and I've seen him fight the older boys battles for them. Thank you God for AndrewIP: Logged |
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posted August 06, 2004 03:34 AM
I went back and tweaked that wording a little more because I realized it sounded confusing. IP: Logged |
NikiSpeedy
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posted August 06, 2004 10:00 AM
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astro junkie
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posted August 06, 2004 12:39 PM
Yeah, I'm not trying to make a connection between the difficult birth and my Rising being in the 29th, but who knows.IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted August 06, 2004 04:42 PM
good pointIP: Logged |
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