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sthenri
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posted September 05, 2004 09:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have three different times of birth for Pacino, which do you think, Leo, Scorpio, or Sag ascendant?

Natasha

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 05, 2004 09:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's kinda hard to say. What's he really like personally?

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sthenri
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posted September 05, 2004 10:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Alfredo Pacino was born in East Harlem, New York, on April 24th, 1940 to father Salvatore and mother Rose. His dad worked as an insurance salesman and his mom was a housewife. They divorced when Al was two and he grew up with his mom, living in his grandparents house. His grandparents were kind but overprotective and, amazingly, Al was not even allowed to leave the house until he was seven. Pacino was a sensitive, quiet child who kept to himself.

His childhood was uneventful - literally. Al had little to do around the house during the day; he would spend his time acting out storylines for his grandmother. At night, his mom would often take him to the movie theater, and the stories he saw there provided ample inspiration for his daytime performances.

When it came time for Al to attend school, he wasted no time proving how bad he was at it. A great storyteller, he would spin tales for the other kids and always had his head up in the clouds. His teachers, eager to see the glass as half full, encouraged Al to work at what he was good at. He began performing in school plays and reading passages from the Bible at school assemblies. Even at a young age, it seems Al was comfortable in front of an audience. It was not surprising then that he would become an actor, what is surprising is that he did not do so r ight away.

After a brief time spent at the High School for Performing Arts, he began working odd jobs - spending some time as a building superintendent. Eventually, however, the acting bug would overtake Al again. Pacino started taking acting classes at night and appearing in Off-Broadway - very Off-Broadway - productions.

He saved his money and took more reputable lessons, which in turn allowed him to land better roles and save more money for even better lessons. Repeating this cycle, Al eventually ended up at the Actors Studio in 1966, where he became a devout Method actor.

The following years saw Pacino edge ever closer to Broadway, appearing in the Off-Broadway play The Indian Wants the Bronx, as one of two young criminals. The performance wowed critics, who voted him the Best Actor of the season, awarding him an Obie. Al opened up the 70s by winning his first Tony Award for his first officially on Broadway play, Does the Tiger Wear a Necktie. Playing a junkie, Pacino showed a great capacity to play the dirty and gritty side of humanity from early on.

With the praise of his theater work still echoing in his mind, Pacino decided to try for a film career. The idea of appearing in the moving picture shows over which he had bonded with his mother so many years ago must have been exciting to Al. His first few roles were more or less big screen versions of the characters he had already played on stage.

Before The Panic in Needle Park began filming, Al - always the conscientious method actor - spent time doing research in methadone treatment clinics imitating the mannerisms of real life junkies. The hard work payed off when Francis Ford Coppola was so impressed that he offered the actor a role in his upcoming, The Godfather as Michael Corleone. "

"On the home front, Pacino has not one, but two toddlers to call his own with his partner, Beverly D'Angelo. Twins Anton and Olivia are 18 months old. Then there's his daughter Julie, who is almost 13, whose mom is Jan Tarrant. Julie, armed with a camcorder, is making like a fledgling filmmaker. It's all good."


The Oddities of Al Pacino http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/4759/oddities.html
A bunch of facts and trivia about Al that I found interesting and maybe a bit odd
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* Sometime back in April, Pacino was caught with sunglasses and a fake beard in Yankee Stadium watching a game with his girlfriend Beverly D'Angelo. He tried to go incognito for a day but unfortunately his plan didn't work.
* Lots of people, and you might be one of them, often get Al Pacino confused with Robert De Niro. Both stars hear the confusion occasionally. "People are always telling me how much they loved me in Raging Bull," admits Pacino, while De Niro states, "I always hear, 'You were great in Serpico.' A pilot on a plane recently gave me a bottle of scotch because he thought I was so great in "Scent of a Woman."
* Hard Copy, one of the most reliable news sources on TV (ha, ha) has said that Pacino has recently turned to the help of cosmetic surgery. For exactly what I do not know. People have told me it was for a face lift (as if he needed one). Any info would be deeply helpful
* Pacino is an avid fan of opera.
* Filming started in 1985 for Pacino's independent, personally-financed film, "The Local Stigmatic." For close to a decade he meticulously edited it to make it perfect, but finally put it on the shelf, unreleased. The film is under an hour and is based on the Heathcote Williams play he did in 1969. Although he refuses to commercially release "The Local Stigmatic" and only occasionally shows it to friends and press people, it did play at New York's Whitney Museum for a couple weeks in 1992.
* Sent in by Juan Pablo Valdes: Seems that there wasn't too much chemistry going on between Al Pacino and Keanu Reeves on the set of "Devil's Advocate." Reeves apparently didn't listen to Pacino when he tried to give him acting tips (even though he should have - he needs all the help he can get!). Pacino also asked his trailer to be moved at one point because Keanu played his music too loud. - Thanx Juan Pablo

* Sent in by Rachel Cox: Pacino's father owns a restaurant in Florida, called (how original) "Pacino's." I guess the food is pretty good. - Hey, Rachel, thanxalot!

* Pacino may be a legendary actor, but he hadn't really mastered the art of the whoopee cushion until "Donnie Brasco" came along. Johnny Depp surprised Pacino with the gag one day during a rehearsal. "He is a living guru of acting, but I can now honestly say he is also a guru of the whoopee cushion," comments Depp on the joke he played on Al. "He's a fast learner."
* Al once had a part in the TV show N.Y.P.D. in 1968. He appeared in the episode titled "Deadly Circle of Violence."
* Pacino once rented a 2,733-Sq.-Ft. apartment from 1994 till about a year ago at 353 Central Park West in NYC. When he first started living in the apartment, he had the management double the original 13 X 8 ft. kitchen and painted the walls dark red. The apartment takes up the entire ground floor of the new condominium building. It recently sold for $1.9 million.
* Al's nickname as a youth was Sonny. In fact, when he was young he thought of using the name "Sonny Scott" for his acting career because very few actors' last names ended in vowels back then.
* Al was so much into character while filming "Serpico," he actually pulled over and tried to arrest a truck driver for exhaust pollution.
* Past relationships include: Debra Winger, Diane Keaton, Penelope Ann Miller, Tuesday Weld, and Kathleen Quinlan, who are all actresses. Ironically, Pacino once told Chris O'Donnell never to date an actress.
* Asking price for each movie present-day: $9 mil. Asking price for "The Godfather" was: $40,000.
* Stopped a 2-pack a day smoking habit in 1994 to protect his voice.
* Pacino was voted "Most Likely to Succeed" in junior high school for his acting talent. Ironically, the only thing he passed in high school was English; he dropped out at age 17.
* Martin Brest, director of "Scent of a Woman," gave Pacino the pet name "El Diablo" on the set, which means "The Devil" in Spanish.
* Al Pacino is only 5' 7."
* James Caan and Robert Duvall were partners in crime on the set of "The Godfather" and would harass Al Pacino during rehearsals by making him constantly break into laughter during his scenes.
* At the end of the Godfather scene when Michael shoots McCluskey and Sollozzo, Michael leaves the restaurant and jumps from the sidewalk onto the getaway car. In real life, Pacino twisted his ankle and strained a ligament after miscalculating the leap. During the scene where Michael announces his plan to kill Sollozzo and McCluskey, James Caan is seen holding a cane that we think is Brando's but was actually Pacino's to help him get around.
* Michael Corleone was a role that Pacino almost never got. Execs at Paramount thought Al was too short and "too Italian" to play the now famous role. Francis Ford Coppolla was the only person who wanted him. So he had Pacino take several screen tests, but Al even showed up at a couple of the auditions without knowing his lines. He knew only the director was backing him, so he didn't see the sense of trying for a role he had almost no chance of getting. Coppolla called him a "self-destructive ******* " for his indifferent behavior. It wasn't until the producer gave in to the director's constant pleading that Pacino was cast.
* Before making it big, Al held many odd jobs, such as being a janitor and usher. However, he would lag on the job a lot, and most of the time he was inevitably fired. One time, when he had a job as an usher, Pacino led patrons to a line across the street from the theater that didn't really exist. A job a Carnegie Hall was the only one he regetted losing - "The music was wonderful, but I kept putting people in the wrong seats," said Pacino of the job.
* Roles Pacino turned down include "Pretty Woman," "Crimson Tide," and "Born on the Fourth of July." He was even offered the role of Han Solo in "Star Wars" at one point.
* Not many people knew about it, but Pacino was interviewed on Larry King Live for a whole hour on November 8, 1996. He was there promoting "Looking for Richard." I bought a video of it for about $30-35. Send an email to CNN at cnn.feedback@cnn.com (like I did) to find out how to obtain a video or transcript. Or keep an eye on Larry King Live to see if the episode's ever rerun; King comments that it's one of his favorites.

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virgo
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posted September 05, 2004 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hes a bit of an ******* . He was here in Vancouver couple years back doing some movie. And some of the guys I know (first nations) were gonna be extras in the film with couple lines. And when they got there and Pacnio had the chance to meet them, he turned them down because he didnt want to be around natives or have them on the set because he thought they would start trouble. Some have a reputation of being "native trash" or 'criminals"

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Hes a bit of an ******* . He was here in Vancouver couple years back doing some movie. And some of the guys I know (first nations) were gonna be extras in the film with couple lines. And when they got there and Pacnio had the chance to meet them, he turned them down because he didnt want to be around natives or have them on the set because he thought they would start trouble. Some have a reputation of being "native trash" or 'criminals"

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sthenri
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posted September 05, 2004 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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astro junkie
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posted September 06, 2004 12:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DiNero is a Leo and there's a bit of mystery to him, which is similar to Pacino. I think Pacino is probably Scorpio Rising though.

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rasberry
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posted September 06, 2004 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AJ, Sorry to go off the topic a bit... Would you say that people with a strong leo would be mysterious? Because I know someone with a leo moon and i thought it gave them more of a "being proud with their emotions" Now that you said mystery, it really fits in with this guy...

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lilith
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posted September 06, 2004 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
De Niro has a Pisces Moon, hence the mystery

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sthenri
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posted September 07, 2004 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding acting, and his mother

"It started when I was very young. I mean, really young," he says. "I wasn't let out much. I was kept in. And while I was home I found myself repeating the roles from the movies I saw with my mother. Sometimes she'd take me to the movies when she came home from work. That was our date," he said. The two enjoyed a very close relationship, and Pacino was devastated by her death in 1962 after a long illness.

His partner is/was a Scorpio, Beverly D'Angelo was born,
November 15, 1954 in Columbus OH
Here chart, Virgo ascendant conjunct Mars, with Venus in Libra/2nd house, Gemini Moon/10th
Pisces on the 7th, They were better off split, http://www.astrotheme.fr/portraits/q4586df2zTJU.htm

"Al Pacino's custody battle with Beverly D'Angelo is getting horrible, as the actor claims his ex-partner is charging him to see their children A friend of D'Angelo's says Pacino refuses to stick to the court-approved visitation schedule for their children "

An interview
"I've never been married, but I like it that way," says the Any Given Sunday star. "I might get married one day. I was close once in my life, but it didn't happen; one day I'm sure it will." He may be speaking of his current companion, the actress Beverly D'Angelo, with whom he has twins, Anton and Olivia.
These days Pacino seems to have settled down somewhat. He stopped drinking in the late Seventies and kicked a two-pack-a-day cigarette habit in 1994. He's grown accustomed to being photographed with his children and, having passed the age of 60 with his career still thriving, the 5ft 6in actor seems content. "It does look to me like I'm a little more accepting of things," he said. "Pretty soon you just count whatever blessings you've got. I've found that happiness is cool."

Yes he sure sounds like a Pisces moon, but I can't see a Leo ascendant. I suppose Sag would work, both Scorpio and Sag ascendants are drawn to Scorpios. D'Angelo would be attracted to Scorpio and Sag Ascendant's but more Scorpios. Still I get a Sag Ascendant feel due to his close relationship with his mother.

Natasha


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astro junkie
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posted September 07, 2004 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... no matter ... he's soooooo beautiful ...

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sthenri
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posted September 07, 2004 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now I'm not sure again-his moon shifts according to different sources-plus in vedic astrology his moon is in Scorpio.
Diane Keaton-they had a brief affair, has a Scorpio Ascendant.

Marlon Brando was also a man of mystery, and he was also a Taurus with a Sag rising.

Here are three Ascendants http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/portraits/398RF83qAv4u.htm
Sag Moon
Leo Ascendant
http://www.librarising.com/Rising/celebs/alpacino.html
Sag Moon
Scorpio

I can't find any info on a Sag rising now,
but that would put his moon in the first, house, which do you think, moon in the 5th or first?
Sag rising would put his venus and mars near the 8th house, with Leo rising the 8th is ruled by pisces.

His chart has a Scorpionic flavor.

Natasha


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