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Aquarian Girl
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posted October 20, 2004 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex has all these positions on his chart and while not all of them are negative in their own right, all combined they make for a very domineering, controlling, self-absorbed, extremely subjective, emotionally crippled personality.

As far as his sun, moon and asc go, it made him hyper emmotional and needy, with the wrath of a thousand stubborn rams... yet outwardly he projected a veneer of responsibility, success, logic, intelligence.

Pisces sun - Capricorn rising - Aries moon
Pluto Square Ascendant
Mercury Square Midheaven
Mars Sextile Ascendant
Mercury Square Uranus
Sun in the First House
Sun Conjunct Mars
Sun Square Neptune
Mars Square Neptune
Moon Opposition Pluto
Moon Opposition Saturn
Saturn in the Eighth House
Uranus Sextile Ascendant

Are there any aspects that stand out that can make a personality very difficult and domineering? Any others that you watch out for on a chart?

I'm finding it fascinating dissecting his chart and seeing how it translates to real life.

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astro junkie
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posted October 20, 2004 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a quick look - seems like a person with trouble exressing their feelings, so may not even know WHAT they are feeling. Over the years, he's acquired some techniques to fill the void, and those are the negative traits you see. Does he seem to react rather than respond?

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sthenri
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posted October 21, 2004 08:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in the 8th tends to repress feelings, and repress others, that could be defined as controlling if the man is unevolved.

Those Pluto aspects say insecurity to me.
But the main drive is the Sun conjunct Mars,
IMO this aspects makes a person hungrier for attention-and quick to move on.

Natasha
Taurus

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Aquarian Girl
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posted October 21, 2004 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is very rectionary, very defensive and the most subjective person I have ever known... Cannot see past his own nose for a second or put himself in someone else's shoes - and he's quite intelligent so I have suspected that maybe he just doesn't want to...

I didn't post them, but he has many positive Venus and Sun trines and aspects which make him extremely charming to boot.

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astro junkie
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posted October 21, 2004 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup just my type of guy - only - the Sun in Pisces is a red flag for me, as are other Signs... but anyways ...

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Aquarian Girl
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posted October 21, 2004 05:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard that before about Pisces men. I think I just have a fatal attraction to them (new guy is Pisces sun/Scorpio asc)... Like a moth to a flame! But, I think this one is different.

*laughs at self*

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Duality
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posted October 21, 2004 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cannot see past his own nose for a second or put himself in someone else's shoes - and he's quite intelligent so I have suspected that maybe he just doesn't want to...
I think what you say has more to do with lack of empathy than with intelligence - They are not mutually exclusive. In fact, many cruel murderers and criminals are highly intelligent but totally lack empathy.

There's something I don't get - Why do people refer to Pisces as "dark", "perverse", "dangerous" and such negative things? I thought it was supposed to be a very empathic sign, is it not?

I have a conjunct stellium of 4 personal planets in Gem which is very cerebral but I've always been very emphatic since I can remember myself. So much so actually, that now in adulthood I many times feel the need to "disconnect" b/c it's too much for me. I attribute it to my Pisces Moon - Am I wrong???


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astro junkie
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posted October 21, 2004 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ... there are so many more twists and turns in the brain, as I'm sure you already know.

That's a simple example.

Or like the old man who can fly a man to Mars, but can't create a new Folder in Windows?

Yeah ... I knew them very well my dear ...

The intelligent guy, you figured he has all the bases covered. Not so. You're just attracted to that one thing about him and you're assuming all the bases are covered.

It could be the way he talks, or walks, or Uppppmmmmth, or whatever ... and it doesn't work like that.

I've met guys who had ALL the bases covered, EXCEPT ONE. And for whatever reason, whether it was too important to me, or whether the void is too important to him - Did NOT work out.

The brain is mysterious like that.

I DID say you had to be insane to love this man, right?

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sthenri
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posted October 21, 2004 06:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am pretty objective, I know what you mean about subjective, it's like reality doesn't exist,

I dated two men this year with sun conjunct mars, I attract this a lot since I have Sag/1st house conjunct Mars and Venus in Aries.
Plus my Cancer moon in the 8th seems quiet and easily led at first.

But it didn't work out either time because both took everything I said the wrong way and blamed me for my attitude about it. If I said I was wearing a black leather skirt to celebrate our date, that was seen as a slur on the date and he wanted to know who else I had worn it for?? Unless it was about sports I avoided all conversation after a while.

Both dumped me for other girls and called to tell me about expecting tears. I was angry but not sad, it's hard to miss someone so self involved.

Self involved is cute but not when you are seen as the enemy.

Anyway I do like people with this aspect but even the women are very touchy, and the lesbians I know have this aspect. I can't say anything right. Very high minded, very political, always right.
I like lesbians but not if they are touchy.
I talk to everyone,

Why can't I be right on just one subject?

I always try to be objective,

Natasha
Taurus/6th
Gemini/7th

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Aquarian Girl
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posted October 21, 2004 09:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Very high minded, very political, always right.

You hit the nail on the head with my ex. He was a vehement Republican, always right (right and Right if you know what I mean, lol), always sputtering and shaking his fist in the air about something those darn Liberals have done now, lol... He was obsessed with politics and it was just a bit too effing much.

This is from someone who majored in International Relations who leans to the Right of things herself. He was extreme.

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