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GingerB
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posted October 22, 2004 08:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if anyone can give me some information on this chart?

Will this be going anywhere in a serious manner, or should I not waste my time?
We have a 10 yr old & one on the way...
Will he ever take any real responsiblility in the family aspect?

I love him, always will.
And I see in him a better man, than I think he can see in himself.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_1jqfile0SZCZv-u1098328489.45213.4226.gif&res=100&va=

Data Sheets http://www.astro.com/tmpd/achart_1jqfile0SZCZv-u1098328489.45511.26639.d61gw.pdf

And if he's not gonna take the responsiblity of familyhood, is there anything in the chart that shows someone else who will?

(I'm really getting tired of being jerked around)

Thank you for your time!

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pixelpixie
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From: ON Canada
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posted October 22, 2004 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is so much going on in this chart, it is dizzying. This is a powerful thing.. you 'see' each other *for good ot bad*
I understand the attracion.. oppposing Moons, emotion expressed at cross purposes in a sense, magnetizing, attractive, but expressed differently. You both need patience and tact when dealing with each other. His Sun and Mars are on your ascendant.. which means you see him, you 'feel' him.. but in his own chart, having Sun and Mars together, even in a sign like Virgo, he can express himself very much 'in your face'.. maybe too manically. They trine your Saturn and Moon.
Your own fifth house is loaded... your Saturn and Moon in Cappy.. Saturn is comfortable there, ruling Cap, but the Moon in Cap.. not so comfy. You may have a problem outwardly expressing your emotions... Though they are in different signs, they all live in your fifth house...Your Saturn, Moon, Venus and Mars. All very different planets, all coming out at different times.. all expressed in different ways, but in the same areas of your life.
Sun opposed Mercury between you.... once again, communication differences...
Leo Moon in the seventh house? He's a cuddle puppy and is very protective of his family. HIS family. He is king. (according to....?) Ooooh, venus in Cancer.. cuddle cuddle cuddle......
Saturn in his sicth house might be limiting in terms of work, health, how he feels torn with doing things for others. He probably feels his limits in this capacity very strongly. Does his health inerfere with his sense of duty to the family? His Saturn is also sitting on your MC.. also how work relates to the relationship and how it is outwordly seen by others.
His Pluto is in your first house.. while this isn't necessarily a major thing, it is felt by you in his sense of 'power' over the relationship.

In your own chart, you have a sixth house Sun, compared to his,with a sixth house Saturn. The Sun expressed energies directly, freely.. you find doing for others necessary for your very existence.. plus, being a mutable Pisces, this comes naturally to you anyway... the water fitting the container it is in. His energy in the sixth is felt differently.
Alot of opposing forces keepng you together... I understand why this is a fated rlationship that pulls you both.
Your Jupiters are exactly conjunct. That's nice.
Communication is passionate, but tangled.
That's enough for now.. I actually typed twice as much, but lost it and had to go on again.... Hope I covered it better the second time around. Questions? I just briefly looked into it.
Good luck.

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GingerB
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posted October 22, 2004 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if you can quote here.
Gonna try it...

Dizzing, YES!

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There is so much going on in this chart, it is dizzying. This is a powerful thing.. you 'see' each other *for good ot bad*
I understand the attracion.. oppposing Moons, emotion expressed at cross purposes in a sense, magnetizing, attractive, but expressed differently.

ok, that's what i thought...
But he was rasied by an illusional mother, didn't know that till I had to move in with her while he was 'serving time'.
She's very hard to get along with, if you don't know she's in a make believe bubble.
We were asked to leave, the kids and I, after he told me he didn't care about me & i didn't appeal to him. Which, hurt, but I felt was a lie, to get us out and his mother off his back.
So he does see me! YAY! I thought so, but lately, he's been holding himself in check, like he's afraid to let his feelings known.
(heck I don't really know any more since he's been acting this way)
Will he get over it and be more comfortable?

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You both need patience and tact when dealing with each other.

yep...I realize this, and wonder if he does...

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Virgo, he can express himself very much 'in your face'.. maybe too manically.

Ha! A total understatement, though i'm not one to push it, if possible.
And being submissive, in a love relationship, helps with that.

When you say trine, what does that mean?

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Saturn is comfortable there, ruling Cap, but the Moon in Cap.. not so comfy. You may have a problem outwardly expressing your emotions...

I'm very sensative, Pisces.
The expression being hard is sometimes the feelings are overwhelming and rather than want to cry, either from hurt or joy, gets to me sometimes, and I just hold it in.

I need to go find out what the 5 house rules...

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Sun opposed Mercury between you.... once again, communication differences...

That's the Virgo/Pisces thing again isn't it?

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Leo Moon in the seventh house? He's a cuddle puppy and is very protective of his family. HIS family. He is king. (according to....?) Ooooh, venus in Cancer.. cuddle cuddle cuddle......

So even though that Virgo keeps himself in tight check he's enjoying himself with our, ummm...cuddle dealings, isn't he!
Great! That's what I thought! He's eating it up isn't he?
*Grins*
*giggles*

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Saturn in his sicth house might be limiting in terms of work, health, how he feels torn with doing things for others. He probably feels his limits in this capacity very strongly. Does his health inerfere with his sense of duty to the family?

Omg, everyone is always needing him to do 'something' for them, and it seems to me that most of them like him, he's likeable, but they take advantage of him...

His health, yes, I worry about that, though, there are only times when he gives into it, he pushes himself...

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His Pluto is in your first house.. while this isn't necessarily a major thing, it is felt by you in his sense of 'power' over the relationship.

Oh yes, he's in control.
Which is alright at times and enjoyable.
I perfer the male to be in control. (raised that way, seems natural) but, it has me wondering about all this...
Where we're going...

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In your own chart, you have a sixth house Sun, compared to his,with a sixth house Saturn. The Sun expressed energies directly, freely..

Have to check out 6th house as well. Well all of them really...

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His energy in the sixth is felt differently.

he holds back doesn't he?

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Your Jupiters are exactly conjunct. That's nice.
Communication is passionate, but tangled.

Yeah, i saw that figured it a good thing...
So, what's the secret to being able to really relate, without so much tangle?

Thank you pixelpixie!
Look forward to hearing what else you see.
(((i really appreciate this!)))

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pixelpixie
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posted October 22, 2004 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The secret to any relationship lies within you and your willingness to make it work, to understand the other person,and the dynamic of the relationship itself or accept things and not try to change the other.. We adapt, not change. . That goes individually as well...... He needs to be on a level to give as much as he takes.

I am sometimes overwhelmed by people's ideas of what relationships 'should be'.
I once had a friend,years ago, who woud treat her 'loved one' worse than an enemy.. always second guessing him, not 'worshipping him' or building him up ( when I say worship, I mean pay tribute to, appreciate.. and that goes for either sex) She would undermine everything he says.... and basically not treat him with respect. I see this still, all the time... I use this example, because, she asked me one day... " Why are you so nice to your boyfriend?"
I said, very simply.." Because I love him."
Does it get any easier than that? We hate when other's dare disrespect our loved ones... why should we?.......
I digress....
Astrologically.
This chart is full.
It is up to the both of you and I suppose, in a significant way, fate.. and you, what you do with these potentials.
Whether it cvan work or not... who really knows? I see alot of contacts...... good and bad.. but both are needed to 'see' each other.
Your Saturn squares, squares!!! (*I edited from trines.. I meant square, said trine....*Why do I do that???) his Uranus.. you might feel stifling to him, especially when related to his public image ( tenth house) in a way he doesn't understand. He might be inclined to run, or see your presense as a wet blanket, even if it isn't expressed, it is on an unconscious level.....
Also because your Saturn lies in his first house. These are impulses we respond to, we feel... but don't understand. The Wet Blanket response. Your Moon is also in his first house. so that is conflicting.... They are both strong contacts, kind of at reverse purposes.. but both there nonetheless... One day he might see your very soul, the next day reject you for it.
Hang in there.. if this is important to you, trust in your intuition. You have positive and negative contacts here.. but the potentials are up to both of you.

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pixelpixie
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posted October 22, 2004 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There.. here's some basic learning links.
go get your profiles from www.astro.com, and look up the synastry aspects.*listed at the bottom of the profile page). it will help you learn.
A great learning site..... http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/astrologyhouses.html http://celestteal.bizland.com/compatible.htm http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html

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pixelpixie
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posted October 22, 2004 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooooooooooohhh.. another thought.. just to go with the changing nature that is life.. the duality of things...
Another excuse hear alot is "Because I love him."
Not to be confused with-"Because I love him."
Yes, I will admit, it is a little confusing.. but if I say it in context...
I" will respect the rights of him, to be treated at par with or better than, the way I would treat any human being, especially by one I claim to love, "because I love him."
And
" I will not let him beat me down, physically or emotionally, I respect myself, know my lmitations and know when I am unhappy and that no matter how much I love him, I will never let that undermine the way I love myself or my family." -Because I love him.

Did I do that okay? I am typing so fast today I am making all sors of errors.
Sorry.

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GingerB
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posted October 22, 2004 12:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He needs to be on a level to give as much as he takes.

Will he reach this point?
Can you give me any idea as to when that might be?
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'worshipping him' or building him up ( when I say worship, I mean pay tribute to, appreciate.. and that goes for either sex)

I totally agree, and practice that, i do believe...
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good and bad.. but both are needed to 'see' each other.

Yes, that makes sense to me...
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Your Saturn trines his Uranus.. you might feel stifling to him, especially when related to his public image ( tenth house) in a way he doesn't understand. He might be inclined to run, or see your presense as a wet blanket, even if it isn't expressed, it is on an unconscious level.....

This is an issue, and I've asked him, but he denies that it's a big deal.
He has dealings with folks I'd not associate with anyway really, so I don't understand the why.
And sometimes, i think it's a 'protection' projection from him, since he's told me, when the 10-yr old was a baby that if someone wanted to get back at him, they'd go for family, rather than him personally, so, I do understand that way of his thinking.
Honestly, he can do whatever he likes, (in some senses), as long as he's honest with me, and i think from what he's learned from his mother, he's not really knowing he can be honest & open with me.

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One day he might see your very soul, the next day reject you for it.

I kinda felt this way, though don't understand it's purpose...
I wonder if he does?
If it confuses him?

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trust in your intuition.

I've had dreams & wide awake flashes of us, nice things, good stuff, some even mystical...
From the tarot, I asked, 'What does he see in me?
The answer, 'The Moon'
I asked, 'What will he bring to me?'
The answer, 'The Star'.

I feel this, yet, right now, with whatever it is he's got going on, it confuses me, and I'm not wanting to waste any more 'time' if there's nothing going to come of it...

Do you see?
Are there any other people that, get into the way of us?
Imtimately?

Is the only thing that is anywhere real for him, about us besides the children?
If it is, then I'll walk on.

I'm so tired of being alone, trying to raise them.
Being the mother, i can handle, but they need a father...
One that is there for us, with us...
Having to play the father's role doesn't work to well for me or them?

And can you point me to the good in the chart?
And the bad, so i might be albe to handle things in a 'growing' way?

I hope I'm not asking to much.
What's happening now is so confusing, and I wonder what kind of handle he has on it as well...

Thank You, pixelpixie.
(seems like I've seen your nick before, somewhere else)

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astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for those links Pix -

I don't think I'd seen that "bizland" one before.

Ginger B -

I see some things. Most definitely challenging as well. But I see that you provide more for him in terms of the "appearance" of a relationship. You may even be a sort of "trophy wife" type person to him.

He makes you believe you can reach the stars, but yet, he does not have the discipline or energy to follow through, to stick it out. It's frustrating for him because he'll ask himself why things are going that way for him.

The potential you see in him is due to some of what he mirrors to you, but it's a house of mirrors. It's all about YOU finding faith in YOU. I think this relationship is about strengthening yourself, to see YOUR potential. But he is simply unable to live up to the potential you see in him. Not because he doesn't get glimpses of it himself, especially as acted out by you.

But he simply does not have the ability to be the stable and there for you at the drop of a hat.

It's maddening in a way because of the house of mirrors. You think you are seeing something, and what you don't see, you color in yourself. But what you color in is NOT HIM.

I really hope everything works out and that life is not so hard on either one of you.

Anyways, that's the gyst of what I saw.

Love, Light & Hugs ...

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pixelpixie
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posted October 22, 2004 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Positives?
Take a look at those blue lines you see. Those are either trines (four signs away, positive, same elements)or sextiles(two signs away, positive, harmonized elements). The red are 'negative' Three signs away are 'squared' oppositions are challenging too but also attractive.
Conjunctions ( same sign as ) can go either way. Neutral, depending upon what the signs/houses represent and the aspects made from other signs in your own chart.
An active chart is a good chart though, in terms of involvement. You are very aware of each other.
Take a look at those links.

For composite.....
I just input the data and did what you have.. but maybe laid it out this way, it may help.

Sun in the First House

Composite Sun in the first house often signifies a relationship that is unusually important in terms of your own lives.

Together you may be able to accomplish more in life than you could have separately.

The two of you may tend to worry too much about how you appear to others. This can lead you to neglect the real problems that are not visible to others.

Second, if as individuals you are intrinsically forceful people, the energy of this position may make you come on too strong with others.

For an intimate relationship such as a love affair or marriage, this is an intrinsically excellent position.


Sun Opposition Mercury

There will be a great deal of mental activity in this relationship. This aspect is good for verbal communication between you. You both should be wary of the tendency to intellectualize your emotions rather than deal with them at the gut level.

You have an unusual similarity of thinking, or at least a better than average ability to understand each other's thinking.

Mercury is a planet of travel, not always in the literal sense of the word, but in the metaphorical sense; that is, you like to be continually exposed to new ideas and experiences together.

One of the most positive attributes of this aspect is the ability to be detached from what you are discussing. Because of this detachment you may even be able to talk about your relationship and arrive at understandings that will help you both to get more out of it.


Moon in the Twelfth House

The composite Moon in the twelfth house requires the two of you to do a great deal of work that most couples are unwilling to do.

With this house position of the Moon, the greatest danger is emotional dishonesty at the very least and sometimes open and outright dishonesty.

The need here is for both of you to plunge into the relationship, find out the truth of what is going on, and face it squarely and honestly.

If you don't seek out the truth, your relationship will give you the feeling that you have been defeated in life by forces you don't understand. And when the repressed feelings finally do emerge, they will explode destructively. If, however, these feelings gradually emerge from an honest search for understanding, the wisdom you gain will make you much wiser than people who haven't had to face such a challenge.


Moon Opposition Venus

By and large, the opposition of composite Moon and composite Venus is a good aspect in the chart of any relationship, especially a love relationship. But it has some peculiar properties that should be noted.

First of all, it indicates a certain instability. Although your relationship may be a long-term one, it will have considerable ups and downs of feeling.

Second, this aspect can bring the two of you together even though you are really quite different and would not usually get together.

This aspect creates a strong magnetism, which will help to hold the two of you together even when the going gets rough.


Moon Conjunct Ascendant

The conjunction of composite Moon and Ascendant signifies a relationship in which your emotions and feelings play a very prominent role. Therefore, this aspect is more favorable to a personal relationship than to a professional one.

In a personal relationship the Moon close to the composite Ascendant signifies that the two of you can achieve a depth of shared feeling that will be the envy of many other couples.

Of course, this attribute can also be a problem. It may prevent you from seeing each other clearly at those times when a certain degree of objectivity and detachment are called for. During periods of stress in the relationship, you may get so wrapped up in your emotions that neither of you is capable of sorting out who is responsible for what.

This could be a difficult aspect, but if other indications are good, it can also be an excellent aspect.


Venus in the Sixth House

The sixth house of the composite chart is not the easiest place for Venus to express itself.

Within this relationship your concern for love and affection is kept subordinate to what you may consider to be more important. Venus in the sixth does not indicate a lack of affection between you; it simply means that love is not the highest priority keeping you together. Just remember, however, that no personal relationship can survive for purely utilitarian motives. The lighter, self-expressive feelings must be allowed to come out too, if only to allow the relationship to survive.


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AstroText Partner - Short Edition

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for Brent (male)
born on 4 Sep 1972 local time 03:20 pm
in Lucedale, MS (US) U.T. 20:20
88w35, 30n56 sid. time 13:21:51
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Virgo 12°22'29 08
Moon Leo 07°30'33 07
Mercury Leo 28°51'24 08
Venus Cancer 26°46'55 07
Mars Virgo 13°14'25 08
Jupiter Sagittarius 28°39'39 12
Saturn Gemini 19°53'54 06
Uranus Libra 16°28'06 09
Neptune Sagittarius 02°36'50 11
Pluto Libra 01°09'13 09
True Node Capricorn 25°14'06 01


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Capricorn 05°01'17
2nd House Aquarius 10°43'37
3rd House Pisces 18°38'53
Imum Coeli Aries 22°07'58
5th House Taurus 19°16'31
6th House Gemini 12°27'04
Descendant Cancer 05°01'17
8th House Leo 10°43'37
9th House Virgo 18°38'53
Medium Coeli Libra 22°07'58
11th House Scorpio 19°16'31
12th House Sagittarius 12°27'04

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and Ginger (female)
born on 23 Feb 1960 local time 06:29 pm
in Lucedale, MS (US) U.T. 00+29
88w35, 30n56 sid. time 04:46:17
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Pisces 04°24'36 06
Moon Capricorn 28°09'52 05
Mercury Pisces 22°29'04 07
Venus Aquarius 04°04'56 05
Mars Aquarius 00°38'38 05
Jupiter Sagittarius 29°03'34 04
Saturn Capricorn 15°20'09 05
Uranus Leo 18°22'14 12
Neptune Scorpio 09°05'01 02/3
Pluto Virgo 04°54'50 12
True Node Virgo 24°44'36 01


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 14°05'14
2nd House Libra 10°44'15
3rd House Scorpio 10°53'42
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 13°00'04
5th House Capricorn 15°05'44
6th House Aquarius 15°45'26
Descendant Pisces 14°05'14
8th House Aries 10°44'15
9th House Taurus 10°53'42
Medium Coeli Gemini 13°00'04
11th House Cancer 15°05'44
12th House Leo 15°45'26

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Composite Horoscope midpoint method
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Sagittarius 08°23'33 01
Moon Scorpio 02°50'13 12
Mercury Gemini 10°40'14 07/8
Mercury is technically near the end of house 7 and is interpreted in house 8.
Venus Taurus 00°25'55 06
Mars Scorpio 21°56'32 01
Jupiter Sagittarius 28°51'36 02
Saturn Aries 02°37'02 05
Uranus Virgo 17°25'10 11
Neptune Scorpio 20°50'56 01
Pluto Virgo 18°02'02 11
True Node Scorpio 24°59'21 01


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 09°33'15
2nd House Sagittarius 10°43'56
3rd House Capricorn 14°46'17
Imum Coeli Aquarius 17°34'01
5th House Pisces 17°11'07
6th House Aries 14°06'15
Descendant Taurus 09°33'15
8th House Gemini 10°43'56
9th House Cancer 14°46'17
Medium Coeli Leo 17°34'01
11th House Virgo 17°11'07
12th House Libra

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GingerB
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posted October 22, 2004 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Pix, thanks for the links!
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I see that you provide more for him in terms of the "appearance" of a relationship. You may even be a sort of "trophy wife" type person to him.

i've felt this...
I honestly do not believe he's ever run across someone like me, as far as gal's go.
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He makes you believe you can reach the stars, but yet, he does not have the discipline or energy to follow through, to stick it out.

Will he grow into having the disipline, or energy?
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It's frustrating for him because he'll ask himself why things are going that way for him.

Well at least it's on his mind.
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The potential you see in him is due to some of what he mirrors to you, but it's a house of mirrors. It's all about YOU finding faith in YOU. I think this relationship is about strengthening yourself, to see YOUR potential. But he is simply unable to live up to the potential you see in him. Not because he doesn't get glimpses of it himself, especially as acted out by you.

Is this why we seem so much alike thru all the differences?
And does he feel like he needs to act it out?
unable to live up to any of it at any time?

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But he simply does not have the ability to be the stable and there for you at the drop of a hat.

How well do I know this, as far as it happening.
So this is, something he can't really help?

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It's maddening in a way because of the house of mirrors. You think you are seeing something, and what you don't see, you color in yourself. But what you color in is NOT HIM.

In a reading not so long ago, i was told that, I love him, not for who he is, but for who I am..

Which is also confusing...
Those rose colored glasses again, huh?

Thanks AJ!

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pixelpixie
Newflake

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From: ON Canada
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posted October 22, 2004 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and.. in terms of my screen name being familiar? Hmmmmmmmmmm.... I don't really have the time to be on other message board places. I found this one and I love it. I am devoted.. so I dunno...... maybe someone liked the name. Maybe it was an Universal epiphany and reached a few at once!!
*I don't know....
From where, you think?

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astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

I know more than anything, especially with a kid, a woman will do just about anything before breaking up the family. But no, I really don't see any "tricks" to get him to go that extra mile for you. He simply CANNOT. And if on some odd day he does, he'll go right back to where he was before. This is why I say, he keeps giving you the impression he can do it. But he CANNOT.

It feels like a cruel joke, I know ...

I think it goes without saying, everyone here can see your side of it, and your desire for things to work out, which is always commendable. The thing we don't feel comfortable with is knowing you are hurting yourself in the process.

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astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pix -

There are a lot of user names similar to yours, even right here at LL. We have "pixie rose" and there's another pixie something - the word "pixie" gets used a lot out there.

But I can tell the difference toots ...

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GingerB
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posted October 22, 2004 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pixelpixie, I'm thinking it was a site of someone making 'doll' bases...

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Together you may be able to accomplish more in life than you could have separately.

i feel this is oh so very true!
*wonders if he feels this*
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For an intimate relationship such as a love affair or marriage, this is an intrinsically excellent position.

oh yeah! *grins while blushing*
that's one thing that makes it so hard, not being together, maybe for both of us...
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You have an unusual similarity of thinking, or at least a better than average ability to understand each other's thinking.

I think so...and think he does as well.
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The need here is for both of you to plunge into the relationship, find out the truth of what is going on, and face it squarely and honestly.

Guess i'm gonna have to bring this up, see what he thinks.
quote:
If you don't seek out the truth, your relationship will give you the feeling that you have been defeated in life by forces you don't understand. And when the repressed feelings finally do emerge, they will explode destructively. If, however, these feelings gradually emerge from an honest search for understanding, the wisdom you gain will make you much wiser than people who haven't had to face such a challenge.

OK, will do.
I know it may answer some questions I've got running around inside me.
Hopefully he will be receptive to doing so.
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First of all, it indicates a certain instability. Although your relationship may be a long-term one, it will have considerable ups and downs of feeling.

yep...
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Second, this aspect can bring the two of you together even though you are really quite different and would not usually get together.

Strange life is, isn't it?
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This aspect creates a strong magnetism, which will help to hold the two of you together even when the going gets rough.

Know this all to well also.
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In a personal relationship the Moon close to the composite Ascendant signifies that the two of you can achieve a depth of shared feeling that will be the envy of many other couples.

Have seen this in action, as well as felt the feeling from other's.
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During periods of stress in the relationship, you may get so wrapped up in your emotions that neither of you is capable of sorting out who is responsible for what.

yep...
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Within this relationship your concern for love and affection is kept subordinate to what you may consider to be more important.

This has to do with the waiting till alone time to really show affection, rather than laying on each other out in public, doesn't it?
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Venus in the sixth does not indicate a lack of affection between you; it simply means that love is not the highest priority keeping you together.

*nods*
I think the intellectual comes into play here.
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Just remember, however, that no personal relationship can survive for purely utilitarian motives.

True!
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The lighter, self-expressive feelings must be allowed to come out too, if only to allow the relationship to survive.

True, again!
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he keeps giving you the impression he can do it. But he CANNOT

So does he really want to, but can't, and there's nothing he can do about it?
Or is he just only 'stringing me along' cause he knows I'm a good thing? And doesn't want someone else to come along and steal his prize?
Or what?

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The thing we don't feel comfortable with is knowing you are hurting yourself in the process.

So would it be best to do the best I can to walk away from this?
Will that make things better for me and the children?

is there anything in that chart that shows there's someone else who'll be better for us, the children & I?

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