posted October 24, 2004 02:53 AM              

Moon in Cancer
Mars in Scorpio (partial ruling)
Saturn in Capricorn

Houses -

Sun in the 5th
Mercury in the 6th
Jupiter in the 9th

I never really thought about all that. Hmmmm ... Thanks for bringing this up.

Did I come close to beating the record?

posted October 24, 2004 12:09 PM              

When my Moon gets tears whelling up in my eyes, I've learned to acknowledge the feelings, not feel stupid or weak because of them, but I simmer myself down. Like my Sun in Libra, or the Saturn or my Venus in Virgo, will be the wiser one not letting my feelings get the best of me as the Moon in Cancer can color my world unrealistically if I'm not careful.

It's as if the Moon is the "primitive reaction", the first phase in the intuitive process. Then the second phase is waiting for the "correct reponse", which sometimes takes forever or never arrives at all, in which case, it's best to do and/or say nothing.

How about you SunChild (Moon Child?) ?

posted October 24, 2004 09:16 PM            

There's no doubt, that all the 'I's in my personality are exclusively of the lunar type. I work on becoming independant of these lunar forces.

It's not really possible to liberate ourselves from the lunar force if we do not develop within ourselves a permanent center of gravity.

Like being neutral, doing and/or saying nothing, but simultaneously combatting the force, until it reduces to nothing, and the 'correct response' will indeed be the only.

To comprehend each of our forces is not enough, it is necessary to know how to eliminate them.

posted October 24, 2004 10:05 PM            

We are channels to allow the passing for the cosmic energies into the layers of our organism.
These energies need to be transformed through many channels, thus only a transformed and adapted energy can be useful to us.
And they can also be obstructive.

It is possible to filter certain channels, and eliminate their influences.

Everything has to be acknowledged before it's identified.

What you said about Cancer Moons is clearly a step toward acknowledgement.

posted October 24, 2004 11:29 PM            

My fault, for not expressing it correctly!

I'll explain what I mean between solar and lunar when I have time seeing that you're unaware.

posted October 24, 2004 11:47 PM              

here are mine:

moon in 4th
jupiter in 9th pisces
(pisces once ruled by jup)

i have two signs in detriment also:

posted October 25, 2004 12:25 AM              

Venus is in detriment Aries,

posted October 25, 2004 12:55 AM              

If I go to the classical system of essential diginities, I can scrap the bottom of the barrel (literally) and manage essential dignity by face (decan) for my Taurus Saturn in the 3rd decan and Gemini Sun in the 3rd decan. But according to Kevin Burke, not only is this the weakest of the essential dignities, it's also prone to anxiety concerning that planet. And I do have anxiety concerning both my Sun and Saturn. LOL. Let's just skip that then.

I have no planets in fall or detriment, which means everything else is simply peregrine. Or wandering. Or desultory. As in lacking any essential dignity. Sounds a lot like my entire life. Well, as they say, knowing the problem is half the battle.

posted October 25, 2004 05:57 PM              

i've been wondering this, what kind of difference is there between dignified planets/rulerships (like jupiter in sag) or whatever you call them, and exalted planets? like, i also have mars in capricorn which is supposed to be exalted. what does this mean, exactly?

and if you have a planet that's peregrine...is that really bad? i have FOUR peregrines - sun, moon, mercury, and saturn.

posted October 26, 2004 12:13 AM              

Here's an article which really gets into beautiful detail about some of what I think you are asking :::

http://groups.msn.com/HOROSCOPESCHAT/rulersdignities2.msnw

And here's a little more explanation on some of the terms :::

Benefic

A planet which easily produces results which would be generally considered favorable or "good." Whether these results really are good for the native will only become clear over time. Certainly benefics produce a desired result more easily in most situations than malefics (see next entry). The natural benefics are Venus, Jupiter, the Sun by trine or sextile aspects, and any planet that is well aspected and dignified (see note).

Malefic

A planet which does not easily produce results which would be considered "good". Generally speaking malefics are not so much "bad" as it is that they require more thought, more consciousness, and more skill at managing life than the benefics require in most cases. In fact the two main malefics, Mars and Saturn, are necessary for building character and strength. But either of these handled without consciousness leads to less than fortunate results. The natural malefics are Mars, Saturn and the Sun by conjunction only.

General Comment about Both Benefics and Malefics

Ultimately whether a planet is a malefic or a benefic depends upon a number of factors. Planets that are naturally one or the other can be converted into their opposite by other circumstances in the chart. One cannot assume that Venus and Jupiter will always produce good results, and that Saturn and Mars will always produce bad results. This is a old classification and must be taken somewhat freely. In the end I like Ptolemy's definition of the terms best. According to Ptolemy, a benefic is a planet whose natural influence leads to moderation and balance. A malefic is a planet whose natural influence leads to extremes and imbalance.

Dignified and Debilitated

Planets may be dignified (made stronger) and debilitated (weakened) in a variety of ways. In this article I mainly refer to dignity and debility by signs. Planets are dignified when they are in signs in which they rule or are exalted. They are debilitated when they are in signs opposite these. Any regular beginning text of astrology will list these signs. There are other dignities and debilities as well. See Lee Lehman, Essential Dignities, Whitford Press. "

AND

"Detriment, Exalted, Fallen

When the sun, moon, or a planet is in the sign opposite to one it rules, it is considered a difficult combination and is called detriment. The sun, moon, and each planet are also considered exalted in an additional sign that is harmonious, and fallen in the sign opposite to that.

The Sun is exalted in Aries and fallen in Libra.
The Moon is exalted in Taurus and fallen in Scorpio.
Mercury is exalted in Aquarius and fallen in Leo.
Venus is exalted in Pisces and fallen in Virgo.
Mars is exalted in Capricorn and fallen in Cancer.
Jupiter is exalted in Cancer and fallen in Capricorn.
Saturn is exalted in Libra and fallen in Aries.
Uranus is exalted in Scorpio and fallen in Taurus.
Neptune is exalted in Leo and fallen in Aquarius.

And here is a similar listing of the Planets, but in more wonderful detail :::

www.soulhealing.com/january01astro.htm