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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 04, 2004 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You wouldn't believe it, there was this guy who was going to the astrology study group I attended, since September (who just left for home to England after getting stuck here due to a job for 6 years...long story) who I just had this amazing connection with, I can't adequately explain it. I mean, I felt it right after we met, just this understanding of each other, and weirdly enough, a certain chemistry too. I finally got an in-depth look at his chart last night at group, and I knew he had a brickload of Leo, but I didn't realize how it affected me til I saw the degrees and details: biggest aspect...EXACT Venus Mars conjunction...:O
Woah, that clarified a bit.
Now, you also have to take into consideration, He's got a Libra rising (he has twinkling eyes....and I am Aries rising, so I got the vibe that he was intrigued by my playful impulsive attitude, my rising ruling his 7th house of partnership and all), a Taurus moon (stable emotionally and just enough meshing with all the Virgo in my chart), then 6 planets in Leo: Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Pluto) all within 15 degrees...so that both my Leo planets conjuncted all of his.
Don't think I'm crazy, see, cause he's 49 years old while I'm 19, and I shouldn't be attracted to older men, every other man over 25 or so, I am creeped out by their interest in me, but I get a combination friend/slightly romantic aura from him, and he's a sweet man. He even gave me a nice warm hug and British peck on the cheek last time I saw him.
He did leave his snail mail address for us at the astro group, so I think I'll drop him a note, just to say "hi and miss ya".

So, anyone feel like explaining this situation to me? Or sharing a similar experience...?

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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gemini girl
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posted November 04, 2004 03:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi i thought i was the only one most of my friends are at least 10 years older than me and i feel like i can be myself around older men its weird ive only once had that type of connection with someone my age might i add it will probably be the last cause lately ive found older men to be like magnets so i dont think its strange i get very annoyed with ppl that find something wrong with that enjoy the chemistry

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Yin
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posted November 04, 2004 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 'thing' for older man as well. You should explore and enjoy your experiences, VAA. Don't do anything you find out of line - it's that simple. Listen to your heart and take that person with a grain of salt - he's older, he knows more tricks

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miss_muffet
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posted November 04, 2004 09:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand the attraction right now... but I have something that you might want to ponder about:

In 25 years, you will be 44 years old, and most probably still be interested in men (and sex). He will be... errr... 74, and be retired, and living in an old age home that smells of medicine and yuk, other crap.

Could you really see yourself loving this man in 25-40 years?

This I say without judgement; just concern.

Miss Muffet

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Aphrodite
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posted November 04, 2004 09:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi VAA,

I've felt connections with older people too. Of course, nothing romantic ever manifests. The special *ageless* energy from those relationships helps me move forward in knOwing what to look for with peers around my age.

Aphrodite

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pixelpixie
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posted November 04, 2004 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an exact Venus/Mars conjunction with a member of the opposite sex... actually, more than just that.. a whole lot of 'attraction' aspects.. I know what you mean.

I am married ( besides the point) and I still can't think 25 years down the line. Enjoy the moments and the special connections. Go with your Aries ability to live, and try not to dwell on your Virgo tendancy to analyse.

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pidaua
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posted November 04, 2004 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi VAA,

Not that I am an expert on this matter - I do know a few things about being with an older man.

I met, fell in love with and married a man that was 16 years older than me (we later divorced after two years of married - BUT - even after 7 years of knowing each other we are still friends). He's a Virgo, Gemini moon, Leo Venus / Mars, Mecury in Virgo. His Taurus rising allowed my Venus and Sun to fall into his 7th and 8th houses giving us a special connection.

I never really had interest in much older men either, in fact like you, the thought of being with someone more than 6 years older than me creeped me out. I met Mr. Virgo and we had this instant kinship. We could talk for hours about life, politics, science..etc... being a Sag that meant so much to me- to find someone that seemed to understand me so well. He had traveled the world, came from a different background (East Coast Blue Blood and I am a West Coast American Indian from the OC..LOL).

We both have backgrounds in Science- that really drew us together. He was also an excellent provider in that I never had to worry about bills or money (although I did pay for my own things / bills). It was just this total sense of security and friendship.

The problems came about when we talked about family, lifestyle..intimacy. See, me being young and wanting a family was in direct conflict with his desire to just settle down and be the DC power couple. When we met, I was 28 and he was 44. Even our music choices, cultural wit..etc.. was off. I didn't understand some of his references and he didn't understand some of my slang.

I wanted to go out and "experience" the world - he wanted to have dinner and watch TV. He wasn't a bore, but at his age, he had already been there done that and didn't need to see it again. At my age I had finished college, spent a few years working and was ready to see what the world had to offer.

Now that I am 34 I can see where he was coming from. I have no desire to be back in those college years, drinking from a Keg and watching people pass out on our dorm couch. I have no desire to backpack across the EU with nothing but a cell phone and a list of youth hostels.

I don't believe that age is anything but a number. I do believe that cultural differences exist and that if two people can agree on those differences and they are fine with those differences, then yes, they do belong together. They can weather the storms and people making comments. People WILL make comments. I look almost 10 years younger than I am - I still get carded. My ex looked his age - great for his age, but still looked it. There was a couple of times when people asked if I was his daughter. Oh well, these things happen.

Now I am with a Taurus that is 5 1/2 years younger than me. We have many of the same interests and can compare generational events that I could not with my ex. LOL...funny enough, he doesn't get carded and yet I do...so that is cool...Gotta love good genes..and a Virgo rising.

Good luck and keep us posted...please

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astro junkie
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posted November 04, 2004 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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sthenri
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posted November 04, 2004 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old guys are cool, but they are not mystical, they want the same things younger guys do. If you don't idealize the relationship, and he doesn't, it can go very well. And not all relationships are physically based, lots of men are fine with that.

Natasha
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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 04, 2004 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for sharing, it means so much to me that so many wise women care enough to offer their valuable insights and lessons.

geminigirl: yes..nice to know we're not alone. Aside from this man, I've drawn older male friends (truly just compassionate father figures of sorts) into my life in droves lately, and I rather enjoy it.

Yin: appreicate the heads up. I'd love to keep touch with him as a friend. I just get this powerful gut instinct that he is meant ot remain in my life and will reappear for a purpose. I've only felt this way with one other person, and though they've yet to retur, time will tell, for in both cirumstances, their are pretty potent karmic aspects.

miss_muffet: I know, you have a good point, I'm not thinking that far ahead, and gosh, he didn't like try to 'pick me up' or anything, so perhaps I'm only imagining the chemistry, or he truly is mannered enough to realize the gap. I'm a here and now kind of person lately, anyhow, so it's good to keep the future in perspective.

Aphrodite: you said exactly what my mom dear told me. I don't eactly know how I'm going to apply this lesson, as those around me are pretty darn immature to a Moon-Saturn child like me, bah....!

pixelpixie: thanks for the empathy. It helps to know others have felt this confusion of magetism. I need to vow to live in the deepest most genuine side of me and embrace my Aries passion for life's fullest.

pidua: I loved hearing your story! Oh, it is very claifying in a variety of ways, and I will take your words to heart, and of course, keep you posted.

sthenri: as always, Natasha, I know your grounded advice keeps my in check, and of course, careful. I do hope we can maintain an honest, unidealized relationship, for both sakes.

Thanks and hope to hear more from my friends out here.
Love and Lite!!

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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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puppyblew
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posted November 05, 2004 02:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was just thinking about this. astrologically, i find it weird that you can not get certain kinds of aspects between people unless there is a fairly large age gap. otherwise all of the outside planets will be the same. perhaps these "differant" aspects found in men or women older than us attract us in a differant way than we were ever attracted before. i mean you parents/realative are older but you wouldn't notice an attraction factor with them. i think they make us feel so differant and it really grabs our attention. maybe that is the appeal?

i think it also has to do with your father and wanting someone to take care of you and you see a mature person who can do just that. they are just differant from those sometimes immature and unstable people our own age. plus, i think you just approach the relationship in a differant way and then you start to wonder what something more intimate might be like with this more experienced "manly" person. the fact that it is somewhat taboo may make it all the more attractive. you may never even touch them. you typically don't approach an older man as a person you would date, so that develops after friendship takes hold. that is opposite of most relationships with people your own age. they are physical first. i think this lack of physical makes you want it even more. you want what you can't or know you shouldn't have. that's just my two cents!

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puppyblew
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posted November 05, 2004 02:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pidaua ~~

while we are on the subject, i was wondering if being with someone 16 years older than you made you feel stupid when you were around his friends/family. if you read any of my other posts you will know that i liked someone 15 years older than myself. meeting his sisters and friends was something i never got to do, but the mere thought was intimidating. i'm pretty shy anyways, and younger than you were when you married him. i just got along with this guy like he was my age. i talked to him like he was my age. i would never be able to do that with someone older than me that i didn't have a relationship with. just wondering if you felt this way at all and what happened.

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pidaua
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posted November 05, 2004 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Puppyblew,

Actually, I have always felt comfortable with older people. When I was a kid I gravitated to the adults and their conversations. Also, my background may have something to do with it. I have a degree in biology and chemistry which forced me to work with older waaaaaaaaaaaay brilliant people.

After graduation I worked for a veterinary lab with people that had more initials behind their names than I thought possible and I had to talk to them to arrange consults for our diagnostic lab work - sometimes more than 100 vets/ vets with PhDs and research facilities a day.

I felt very comfortable with his family, with the exception that their being somewhat blueblooded intimidated me. His parents are both Taurus peeps, his father retired as the VP of an International Nautical supply company and was not very demonstrative.

I come from a well-to-do family, but not nearly as well to do as his was...AND we are very passionate and demonstrative in our emotions / temper. But, once I met them I just gave them big hugs and let the chips fall where they may (Saggie).

In the end, they loved me and I loved them. I could talk business, politics, current events...etc..

If I had met them BEFORE I went to college and experienced real life work...well, that would be another story and it would have been much more intimidating.

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lovely*
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posted November 05, 2004 03:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since i have virgo sun, moon and venus, i tend to draw in 7+ year age gap relationships. my hubby has pluto/uranus in virgo which conjucts my moon and venus. so there is passion as well as instability.

its a karmic thang i believe.

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miss_apples
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posted November 05, 2004 04:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Age is nothing but a number. If you really feel a closeness to that person and if his astrological make up compliments yours...then more power to ya!

I like older men myself. I also know how attractive older English men are, I have a friend in England who is 38.

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puppyblew
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posted November 06, 2004 02:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you pidaua. you sound like a pretty smart chica.

yes, i think my intimidation had to do with the fact that i am now just entering the real world after college. i have alot to learn still. i contemplated not telling him i loved him until i had my own place, and was totally independent, ect. i couldn't wait. should have! he might have taken me seiously. oh well. how's that for maturity?

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pidaua
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posted November 08, 2004 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Puppyblew,

I think that the fact that you looked at the situation from all angles shows just how smart you really are. If he cannot accept your feelings, then although he is older - he is not emotionally mature.

I have met many older men that seem very distinguished, but inside they are little boys that need moms. They feel that a younger woman will be easy to mold and shape into their ideal woman. On some level my ex was like that, but he wasn't ready for a woman that although was young, was also very opinionated and strong-willed.

College will bring you so many wonderful experiences and will teach you so many things about life and yourself. Being attached to an older man during these upcoming years can actually take away from the valuable lessons you will learn.

Although I wouldn't want to go back to college - I have a huge smile on my face because I know you are going to just LOVE what life has in store for you. I still look back on those days with some angst...but mostly I laugh at all the fun that I had.

Good luck

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