posted November 05, 2004 08:45 AM              

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Saturn will be going retrograde on November the 8th I just thought I would WARN err...I mean notify everyone LOLo.

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posted November 05, 2004 10:23 AM              

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This most likely will effect those going through their Saturn return at the moment, or if this crosses a sensitive point in your chart (27 to 20 Cancer), such as nodes, midpoints, angles. It stays in retro until March, so if it effect you, plan ahead for the long haul. Like I mentioned before, this may be a tough Xmas for many.

It'll be retro'ing right over Juno for me - what a joy!

A couple day after it goes into retro, Uranus comes out of retro. Some are anticipating this will effect the war in Iraq, since it started when Uranus went into retro. So maybe now our mental giant of a president will make impulsive desicions on a grand scale that are more productive and not result in Americans and other civilians getting taken hostage and executed (yeah, I'm p*ssed).

Expect some big global shifts with all of this. Hope for the best. At least with Saturn in retro it shouldn't be as whacky, but don't except this to get too terribly exciting.

At the end of Novemeber, Merc goes back into retro, but this shouldn't be too hard to handle - ti'll all be in Sag, Gem's polarity and a fire signs. It could be very productive time for many to collect themselves and get ready for the new year.

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posted November 05, 2004 08:57 PM              

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Oh ...
Retrograde saturn will conjunct my NN. What is that?

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posted November 05, 2004 09:08 PM              

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Generally, Saturn Retrograde reuires us to be more patient, make our plans carefully, avoid impulsiveness and unwise excess (like expenses, taking too much time off from work, etc.). If we act too quickly, plans more more liekly to blow up in our face. Saturn retrgrade is suppose to be a time for us to learn the value of patience, making sacrifices and making good plans for the future.

For NN, this in particular may affect your long term future plans, especially any big changes you have in mind in the near future, like career changes, moving, marriage, retirement, big purschases - basically anything that would entail more personal responsiblity or finanicial burdens/strain that wouldn't be that easy to get out of if things didn't go well. Probably best use the retro period to check and double check plans before moving ahead with any big plans. If that's unavoidable, proceed with caution and a good plan B.

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posted November 06, 2004 02:28 AM              

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i know someone with cancer rising and he looks like a classic mid - life crisis case. it's probably true cause he's a cappy sun too.

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posted November 06, 2004 04:49 PM              

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Well, fortunately Saturn is making its station with favorable aspects this time...I hope that helps. It is sextile Venus and trine Mercury. I have a Cap rising, though, so I might feel a tug and a pull.
Now URANUS!!! is making its station exactly right on top of my natal Moon. That ought to be a real picnic.
My Sun is in Scorpio and the Pluto stations ALWAYS throw me for a loop. With Moon in Pisces, Neptune stations usually do a number on me too. NOBODY COULD CONVINCE ME THAT THIS IS ALL IN MY HEAD.

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posted November 06, 2004 04:53 PM              

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posted November 06, 2004 05:12 PM              

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Yeah, my moon's in Pisces too, so it's been interesting. Basically, when Uranus transits conjunct your moon, you become more aware of you uniqueness and special abilities that set you apart from others. For a creativ moon like Pisces, this also could be a highly creative time...or we can end up lost in our daydreams. Since my Sun squares my moon, it can be a little depressing and bring anxiety and fear of isolation too. What joy.

Here's what astrology3d.com says about this Uranus transit for me:

"You may become very aware of how you are different than others. This may help you feel special and encourage your inventiveness and originality. However, this can also result in a feeling of separateness or isolation. Be ready for surprises and stay flexible."

When Uranus turns around, it'll at 2 Pisces, which means it'll be in actuall conjunction with my moon in about 6 or seven month - I had a built up to that at the beginning of the year, then it went retro and backed off. Now I get another built up, and then 6 months of it being in orb with my moon, Squaring my Sun. I'll probably end up in the looney bin by this time next year.

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posted November 08, 2004 10:45 PM              

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to study the effect of this saturn retrograde on my chart, what do i need to do on astro.com? i am in saturn return and have been very affected by it. if you want to look along with me it's march 5, 1974 8:25 am westminster, MD

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posted November 09, 2004 12:07 AM              

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I'm not sure what you're asking. This retro will be over the last decan of Cancer, more of less, so if your Saturn is there, I suspect it'll be more intensely affected.

Also look at aspects to other planets from that decan.

Saturn returns suck - I went through my first before I was that much into astrology. Would've been nice to know. I have some very serious problems that I've still working out the consequences of 3 years after the fact.

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posted November 09, 2004 02:01 AM              

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there's a place on astro.com to look at 'extended selection of charts' or something like that, and there are so many, and i dont know what the different types of charts mean, and i dont know what decan means; i am imagining there is some chart where my natal info plus some current aspect are combined on the same chart

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posted November 09, 2004 02:12 AM              

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can anyone tell me when my saturn return is/will be? thanks!
oct 8, 1978 4:26AM Mombasa, Kenya

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posted November 09, 2004 02:32 AM              

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bring it on saturn, I am waiting for you! *puffs out chest and holds up shield*

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posted November 09, 2004 02:33 AM              

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Not again... please... oh please... tell me it doesn't hurt as it backtracks. It's like being run over... having the driver say "oh, you're still alive?" ... shift into reverse... squoosh me some more... and then drive on top of me again as it pulls forward!? I have a 5 planet stellium bundled together in Libra... In the last few months I underwent a simultaneous Saturn sq Sun, Saturn sq Venus, Saturn sq Saturn and Saturn sq Pluto... a bit before that... I had the Saturn sq Mercury transit. Right now... I'm also going through Pluto conjunct Mars... Uranus sq Uranus... and Neptune conjunct my ascendant.

What's worse is that Saturn is wreaking all this squarishness in my 6th house (governing health) and I, for the first time, have eczema (a Libra problem... despite the fact that nobody in my family nor I have had eczema in the past. Tooth problems and an ear infection as well.

I figure that if it weren't for Jupiter, Mars and Venus in Libra right now... I'd be a horrible, horrible mess... luckily they're in my 8th house so I'm being taken care of...

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posted November 09, 2004 02:41 AM              

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weird! I just realized, that the past 2 days, I've noticed a bunch of breakups and was involved in one, and a lot of people are feeling abnormally lonely/sad. Would this have anything to do with Saturn (transitional planet, right?), or is this still effects from the eclipse, or something else?

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