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Topic: Any Moon-Saturn or Sun-Saturn babies out there?
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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 05, 2004 11:10 AM
  
You know who you are,...right?What I've been taught at least, is that Moon-Saturn babies (anyone with one of the 6 main aspects between their natal Moon and Saturn) are born to raise their mothers, because their mothers at that time needed a friend, not a child. Conversely, Sun-Saturn babies (anyone with one of the 6 main aspects between their natal Sun and Saturn) are born to raise their fathers, to be a friend to their father. Of course, this could be reversed if your mother was the more dominant parent, and your father was the nurturer...
Let me know your thoughts, and if are fall into either or both is these caetgories. BTW, I am a Moon-Saturn baby, here to raise my Scoprio (triple Sag, Aries moon and rising) momma. ------------------
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Gemini Nymph
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posted November 05, 2004 11:36 AM
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whiterabbit
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posted November 05, 2004 11:36 AM
*scratching head* well my Saturn aspects my Sun (sextile) AND Moon (trine). I've never heard about this before. I do at times feel more like a friend to my mother. Other times more like an enemy. Never really a child I guess........ hhmm..this is interesting..IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted November 05, 2004 02:32 PM
I have the Sun trine Saturn aspect in my chart. My dad is a Capricorn (ruled by Saturn) and he has to be one of my best friends. I have always felt a stronger kinship with him than with my mother. I also know that if anything ever happened to him I would take care of him - that is just my nature. I am not sure if it is a Sag thing or the Sun / Saturn thing, but I also have more male friends than female friends. With Saturn in Cancer though, I now have a couple of female friends, but I still feel closer to men. IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted November 05, 2004 02:39 PM
Sun Sq. Saturn here...
I don't like my dad that much.
When he's sober, we can have great convos about politics, etc., but those times are fleeting (perhaps as evidenced by the Sun/Saturn Sq being part of a Sun/Neptune/Saturn t-square).Looks like Meg'll be a good friend to Jase, though - Moon sextile Saturn in her chart. IP: Logged |
lovely*
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posted November 05, 2004 02:49 PM
Sun Sextile Saturn 5°04
Moon Sextile Saturn 6°18
Mercury Square Saturn 3°17
Jupiter Trine Saturn 5°22 well i have four contacts.. not close with mom or dad though in any form, both were teens when they had me, i was the adult/parent. does this still make me a "sun-saturn" baby?  IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 05, 2004 08:16 PM
Yes, the "friend" aspect with parents, or you(adult)-them(child) situation is exactly what I was getting at. These people are never children, and they grow up without a real childhood, as they are much more reponsible/mature than same age peers...kinda hard to party hard and break curfews when you are very aware of how childish and hurtful is is to your parents, and you "know better" from an early age...boo...less fun. But typically this also means there are no defined roles like a usual parent-child relationship, which can be good cause you can switch off.
Just my opinion as I am one, and this is what I was told, which makes total sense in my life. BTW, lovely*, you are both a Sun-Saturn and Moon-Saturn child/person. You were born to help both your parents "grow-up".
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ScotScorp
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posted November 05, 2004 08:33 PM
VAA- This topic is very interesting. I have the Sun trine Saturn, but my Virgo mother was the dominant parent, yet still I felt more like a friend to her. My Cappy Aunt (Dad's sister) has been more like a mother to me than anyone in my life. My Sag Dad and I are extremely close though... Angela
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ladya
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posted November 08, 2004 04:21 AM
Proxieme-
I have the same things
Sun Sq. Saturn here...Sun/Saturn Sq being part of a Sun/Neptune/Saturn t-square..I haven't spoken or seen my father since i was 14. Don't even know if he is still alive. I was taken away from my mom when i was 15 too. Did grow up too quickly with virtually no childhood. Thanks all for sharing and allowing me to share.
I didn't know the sautrn aspects played a big part of it ( Eureka! smacks self in head).
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Aen
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posted November 08, 2004 12:12 PM
If really generous with orb, then I have Moon trine Saturn. I've always considered it out of orb, since virtually everything attributed to this aspect is already somewhere in my chart in some other way.But this because their mothers at that time needed a friend, not a child is something new. And it sure applies. Mu Aqua Sun/Scorp Moon Mum has always considered me more like a friend than a child. IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted February 04, 2005 07:24 PM
to the top...  ------------------
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aries-chick
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posted February 05, 2005 08:53 AM
I have Sun trine Saturn...Because my mum's been the main parent in my life I think one could say she half took on my father's role..so I think the Sun/Saturn thing applies to her more than it would to my dad. We are friends and I get along heaps well with her and I do feel like the more mature person sometimes..though I wouldnt go as far as saying I'm "raising" her lols She's a Leo/Gemini..I'm Aries/Capricorn..She's a bit more flighty than I am but we still get along really well 90% of the time. We're deffinetly on an equal..friend - friend level rather than a parent - child level. We've never had a typical parent - child relationship. She was also pretty young when she had me. About the childhood thing overall I've really enjoyed my childhood even though I've always felt a lot more mature than other ppl my age and I constantly try to do the RESPONSIBLE thing in any situation. But it didnt affect me in a negative way ...it didnt stop me from enjoying my childhood. I've never been one to break curfews either but mostly because I actually didnt want to. I didnt feel I was missing out on anything by not staying out 4 extra hours till 5 am lol IP: Logged |
scorpbaby
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posted February 05, 2005 11:24 AM
Well I have Sun conjunct Saturn and also Saturn opposed Moon. I've had some issues with my parents in the past. My mom had me when she was only 19 but she was always a very mature mother, but I've always viewed her more as a big sister. As a mother she never really put down the limits on anything, I was never punished. But then again she is a pretty dominant mother with instilling values into our lives. (shes a scorp too)I've never lived with my dad or had that much of a relationship with him. It's very evident in my chart that I would have problems with my family.
Even now my dad isn't someone I trust, and it upsets me. My chart really spells out the challeneges in my life its so weird...My mom is a Scorp ( my sun) and my Dad is a Taurus (my moon) So there is a definate role reversal here. IP: Logged |
eightdegrees
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posted February 05, 2005 08:08 PM
I have a good friend who's a moon-saturn in Libra... I don't know if he's here to raise his mom, could be, but she's everything to him, and he's fiercely protective. She's a libra sun, he a Leo.IP: Logged |
GingerB
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posted February 06, 2005 08:38 AM
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Azalaksh
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posted February 06, 2005 11:24 AM
Fascinating topic! I have Sun conj Saturn orb 3. My dad was a Sag, and he and I always got on better than me and Mom, a Cappy. But I don't think I raised him, perhaps I contributed to him being a little more open-minded, since he raised a daughter who was a hippie back in the day....
Hey Pidaua, what you wrote is really interesting -- that you have more male friends than female friends, since the same is true for me. Wonder what aspects reinforce our perceptions that we get along better with the guys? It has to be more than being born under masculine Sun signs....------------------
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sudeepk
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posted February 07, 2005 09:11 AM
Sun Square Saturn 1°41
Moon Conjunction Saturn 5°02
Mercury Square Saturn 4°57
Jupiter Quincunx Saturn 2°34I think, I am a sun-saturn baby too. But concept of raising parents didnt happen for me. I was more of a independent kid, taking care of my self and was more in to my own world (pisces). Though, I didnt had a very good childhood, in terms of being carefree and enjoying the time. It was different for me. I used to take life more serioiusly then the kids of my age. I was shy and for me it was very difficult to open up with people. With time I learnt this fact of my psyche. Cheers,
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chrissymgreen
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posted February 07, 2005 09:44 AM
i am not actually a moon-saturn or sun-saturn person (i do have venus square saturn, exact), but i know a guy who has moon (gem) square saturn (virgo) who is DEFINITELY the caregiver in his relationship with his mother. interesting!IP: Logged |
gert
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posted February 07, 2005 10:10 AM
Yes,yes yesI know exactly what you mean.I have a moon trine saturn aspect and throughout my life I've mantained a clsoe relationship with my mom(cant say the same about my dad though!)Its almost like you are expected to kinow better,to be rebellious is almost impossible because the sense of responsibility or "not letting your parents down" is always the atittude you have.It is allso qiute budernsome because while you are living the way your parents approve,you don't live the way you would like to.The trick here as I've learned is to distance yourself,however uncomfortable, from your parents and learn to make your own choices,because it is only then that your parents will start to recognize you as an individual.It is great to have a close relationship with your parents,but don't let their idealism of who you should be cloud you to who you really are(this almost happened to me,but now I've moved far away from home and regaining sense of self) IP: Logged |
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