posted November 15, 2004 06:14 PM              

One of them tried to guilt/manipulate me and my husband into living with her till God knows how long, and got completely mad at us for moving out, she caused a tremendous scene that our neighbors think we are such jerks for leaving a poor old woman behind, little do they know this woman is a millionaire and can pretty much buy whatever she likes. She just can't stand being alone - noone to control. Another side line, she would get mad at us for spending OUR money. It was so bad that we used to sneak stuff into the house so she couldn't see what we bought. Even if we are spending OUR money.

The other is manipulating my Pisces friend (she's the wife) into every single thing she can think of.... calling him in the middle of the day asking him to come home to deal with every little thing that comes to mind. And typical Pisces, just lets her walk all over him. Oh well...

I am sure there are some very nice Cancerians out there, but I have not had the luck to meet them (in person). So, sorry, currently not my favorite sign.

posted November 15, 2004 06:28 PM              

I attract Cancers, or used to, like crazy. Unfortunately, there are reasons I just don't get along with a lot of them. One of them was a player and didn't care that I had a bf but tried to get me anyway. I ran across another one just like him who tried that with my best friend. Another one was suffocating the life out of me, very clingy. Him, and another Cancer did nothing but talk about themselves nonstop and I thought I was going to die of boredom. A couple of others I've met have just been flaky, clingy, or tried to be my mom.

Cancer girls I tend to steer clear from now. I have 3 that really stick out in mind that have been extremely manipulative and quite mean. One of them actually tried to fight me, but didn't get far. She was actually pretty psycho, I wish I had her entire chart.

posted November 15, 2004 10:21 PM              

If I start to attract a mothering type of Cancer, I look at my life and see if I'm sending out irreponsible vibes, I usually am. So we get what we attract, what we need.

Sometimes I need Cancer men, but they usually need someone to take care of them equally, and I can be too distracted by my Merc in Gemini to truly do the job. For that reason I love Cancer men, but I try not to get too personal.

The moods hurt every once in a while, but with some first house influences, it's not so bad.

posted November 16, 2004 05:13 PM              

nearly all the cancerians I meet who are 'evolved' are all really good peeps...for real...but its like we are soo sensitive to others....when someone is down, we feel down....we see behind the mask...intuitive-ness

its like I can really put myself in somebody else's shoes....when a close friend of mine was having boyfriend troubles...abusive, mentally and physically...shes a leo...i was the one in tears...big time...

and being so sensitive..at first it was a curse.....i suffered from stress when I was ten...

...but i have really worked on myself...i have only come to realise that other people problems arent mine.....i can empathise but I dont have to carry their burden as well....its theirs to grow from, just as Ive grown from mine....

but i mean i still get the tugs on my heart string whenever my brothers or my mum say summin's up....i just want things to be good for them...i know its this imagination thing we got as well...like thinking the worst...but its strange cos I feel and know i am strong emotionally, i know i recover from things real easy..so i want to take the burden off my loved ones....cos maybe its too much for them to carry....

sometimes it does manifest in the crabiness cos i just get angry at them even though nobody's asking me to carry anything...

i have come to realise i am great at listening and being ther and that in itself is enough...

this is stoopid...now..dunno if it still exists, but there was this website that 'enabled' you to change your star sign...i always wanted to be one that wasnt so emotional...i think i always put down libra, or aquarius ....'twas a long time ago

but i'm just very content with being me, i still sometimes have a matyr complex...like when people tell a joke, i kinda have to laugh or acknowledge it so they dont feel bad...or i try and suppress being the strong woman i am to make others comfortable....i'm working on it....

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Cancer 13°15'47 08 direct
Moon Capricorn 05°51'34 02 direct
Mercury Gemini 23°44'10 07 direct
Venus Gemini 12°00'15 07 direct
Mars Libra 15°02'29 11 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 00°31'45 11 direct
Saturn Libra 15°44'36 11 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 01°04'00 12/1 retrograde
Uranus is technically near the end of house 12 and is interpreted in house 1.
Neptune Sagittarius 25°10'52 01 retrograde
Pluto Libra 24°06'58 11 stationary (D)
True Node Cancer 13°20'49 08 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Sagittarius 03°43'17
2nd House Capricorn 02°07'23
3rd House Aquarius 01°10'33
Imum Coeli Pisces 02°11'59
5th House Aries 04°29'14
6th House Taurus 05°27'29
Descendant Gemini 03°43'17
8th House Cancer 02°07'23
9th House Leo 01°10'33
Medium Coeli Virgo 02°11'59
11th House Libra 04°29'14
12th House Scorpio 05°27'29

Major aspects
Sun Opposition Moon 7°24
Sun Square Mars 1°47
Sun Square Saturn 2°29
Moon Sextile Jupiter 5°20
Mercury Opposition Neptune 1°27
Mercury Trine Pluto 0°23
Venus Trine Mars 3°02
Venus Trine Saturn 3°44
Mars Conjunction Saturn 0°42
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 5°21
Uranus Conjunction Ascendant 2°39
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°04

posted November 18, 2004 09:37 AM            

Cancers are such dear, sensitive souls. I lived with a Cancerian man once, (as a flatmate) poor thing... he was always so understanding and private, I know if I had a secret, he would be the one to tell it to, cuz he would never tell another living soul what it was. And man, what tender hearts they have!! I think people tend to forget that these people are really full of mush, they just pass them off as being snappy or cold, when the total opposite is true. They just want love and friendship, just like the rest of us, and they all seem to have been deeply hurt, whether in this life or a previous one. If friends and lovers can get past that shell, into the heart of the matter, I think they will see what is really there, a bunch of lovely, sing-songy emotions right there for the asking!!

And OMG, do they have the cutest laughs in the whole world, or what? It's almost like a devious giggle... ''hehe, you'll never know what I've done..''

Love you crabs!!

** Ghani goes and puts on her ''Carmen's Crab Shack: The best in the West'' t shirt **

posted November 18, 2004 11:23 AM              

But the comments are not really meant to offend but more to share personal experiences.

As said before, I am sure there are very many Cancerians out there that are quite evolved and are super nice. I just have not had the luck to meet them in person yet.... moonbaby seems very nice to start with... and she's a Cancer.

I certainly am not trying to "point fingers" as I am sure that there are much more people who do not like Ariens!

posted November 18, 2004 02:17 PM              

But always remember, when it comes to us with MOON in Cancer, the experience can be radically different than someone with a Sun in Cancer. In the Sun, you're dealing with a Fixed (Sun) Element, and a Cardinal (Cancer) Element.

With a Moon, you're working with two CARDINALS. Not quite as easy to manuever, in my personal experience.

posted November 19, 2004 12:26 AM              

Cancers crack me up, ever watch one laugh??
open mouth, screwed up eyes??
I actually met Robin Williams once and it didn't go well. He was really moody that day! he was shopping in a clothing store in L.A, when another Cancer and I, met him. (she found him, Cancers like famous people).
Anyway, she asked him to be Mork from Ork and he shot us a nasty look.
Finally he did it for her alone, really quick.

Moonbaby,
That Sag Ascendant and Mercury in Gemini will make you really sensitive, I have Sag/1st house opp Mercury in Gemini and it's a pain. I feel everything all the time, can't hide it.

Things are only funny for a while,
so someone may like this http://www.ivillage.co.uk/relationships/dating/men/articles/0,,139_572742-5,00.html
I love this game
"Guess what I'm feeling"!!!!!!

Cancer (June 22-July 22)
'I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.' Hunter S Thompson (Born July 18)

The first thing you'll notice is his genuine, and adorable, smile. The Cancer man is sweet, chivalrous, and has a wonderfully off-beat sense of humour that can be downright loony. He is sentimental, sensual, and truly affectionate. He is a traditionalist who respects the proprieties of courtship, believes in family and forever, and he's absolutely the best snuggle-bunny in the universe.

You may see an ideal mate, but what you get is an ideal stalker. A male Crab's idea of devotion is bonding at the hip, so unless you are prepared to become his Siamese twin, run in the opposite direction as fast as possible. In bed he is tender, but so passive that you'll soon tire of always being on top.

His devotion is legendary. However, don't say 'I do' until you understand that this extends to every friend and relative he's ever had, especially mother. It's not above him to wait until the honeymoon to tell you she's coming to live with you as soon as you return.
He's subjective. His favourite game is 'Guess How I'm Feeling'. You will be expected to read his mind, sense his moods, and mend his fragile ego, all without benefit of knowing what has upset him. Don't worry. Everything upsets him. Forget to buy toothpaste, and he'll decide you don't love him anymore. Say you want a night out with the girls, and he'll expect divorce papers in the morning.
Conversely, he will be so blind to your feelings that you will soon find yourself thinking of ways to escape. Try talking rationally, and he will become morose and over-emotional. He's so preoccupied with his own sensibilities, and his basic character is so convoluted, that he simply can't believe you don't feel exactly as he does on every issue. He's as moody as the female Crab, and punishes any perceived slight by retreating into his metaphorical shell so he can have a good old pout.

The male Crab is as paranoid about security as the Bull but, in a financial crisis, will expect you to do all that nasty stuff like making a budget or working two jobs to ensure the family's future. He'll be too ill with a case of stressed-induced acne to show his face in public.
He will stop at nothing to get you to agree with his point of view, even if it's only on the best flavour of ice cream. Anything less is total rejection. First, he will explain in excruciating detail why pecan is better than walnut. Next, he'll try his lost boy look to win your acquiescence. If neither tactic works, he will sigh, say he's not hungry, and sit brooding in front of the TV. You better be prepared to either give in or live in silence. Before you gratefully choose the latter, remember silence to a Crab is punctuated with long, mournful sighs, minor to major groans, and frequent whimpering mutters.
A prime example of a male Crab in action is King Henry VIII. When Henry wanted to divorce his first wife, Catherine (a Sagittarius), to marry Gemini Anne Boleyn, you would think that he would have said, 'So be it'. Instead, in typical Cancer style, Henry tried to ensure that everyone in the kingdom agreed with him. He dragged out the barge, visiting his royal advisors up and down the Thames. He petitioned the Pope for an annulment; even encouraged Catherine to say their marriage was never consummated.
When Catherine refused, he locked her in the Tower of London. When the Pope refused, King Crab created the Church of England, installing himself as its secular head. Through alternating displays of temperament and torture, he secured most of his noblemen's support. Then, true to his changeable nature, he had Anne beheaded, in just under three years of marriage, after it had taken him five years to fight the battle to marry her in the first place.

While your Crab will probably not have you dispatched, he is totally capable of blinding himself to everything that doesn't reflect his narrow, ever-changing viewpoint. And you will suffer a tedious display of relentless carping and whining aimed at securing your slavish, unquestioning devotion.