posted November 17, 2004 02:37 PM            

One person launched an attack on Gemini's and because that person is a Sagittarius- SEVERAL people launched full scales attacks on my sign.

On one had I should be offended, in that thread Archers were called "Hypocritical, abusive, attempted murderers via strangulation, liars, two-faced..etc..."

ALL because one immature fiend, who happened to be an Archer launched an attack on our Twin opposite.

So what is worse? How people came out to attack ALL Archers and offer their stories of mistreatment at the hand of people of my Sign OR one unevolved Archer (that no doubt routinely shoots his / her own butt with their arrows) that has a problem with the intellectual prowess of Gemini?

I have NO problem accepting the ugly traits of my sign. Yes, we can be flighty, even prone to being hypocritical- especially at a young age. It is hard to balance the half animal and half human sides of ourselves. Once we DO learn that balance- we do much to help others. How about being generous? How many people here have been hurt or crushed only to have their Sag mom, dad, friend, brother, act like a clown - take them out to dinner - make them laugh again?

No, we aren't the most stable sign (neither is our opposite the Gem's...funny how there is so much in common between opposites) but like Gemini we will NOT stay around overly negative depressing people. So, if you are one of those stick in the muds that is always complaining about how life mistreated you and only you..along with your pity party..YEAH...when you look up from your depressed state you will notice the Archer his / her quiver and arrows are OUT THE DOOR.

Is that abandonement? Nope...it is self preservation- see Geminis and Archers realize that SOME people just LOVE to wallow in MISERY - why be a party to that when there is so much love and happiness in the world to explore.

I have posted alot from the perspective of the Archer. I have always told it like it is, our warts and all. I have always advised young people to wait before really getting involved with the half human half horse person because we do NOT grow into ourselves until we are at least in our mid twenties if not older.

Do I like Geminis? No..I LOVE them..like every sign. MY best friend and college roommate was a Gemini.

I am very disheartened though at the number of people willing to throw rocks and starting attacking one sign over another. That is even more pathethic that the initial attack itself.

posted November 17, 2004 03:33 PM              

No ONE sign is all peaches and cream... likewise, no ONE is all p!ss and vinigar

posted November 17, 2004 04:49 PM            

LS...I know..I just read a few things that irked me and I wanted to nip it in the bud. Basically, I just wanted to make sure that we realize this was all based on an opinion of one evolved example of my sign against people of another sign that did nothing to provoke it.

posted November 18, 2004 03:54 AM              

You can sum up the gemini/saggy relationship like this: each drive the other crazy, but there is a deep down understanding of one anothers motives and fears. Throw into the pot the ability for each one to get over angriness and hurts quickly, and a love of humour. That's why we jive, and that's why we fight. I think the fighting is very often just because we both like a battle of wits...although you won't win that against a gemini! LOL (just playing)

posted November 18, 2004 12:20 PM              

if so, yes i appreciate an opposing perspective. it balances me i suppose. i have three very intimate relationships with the 3 aforementioned signs.

the pisces is my friend who will look in my eyes and cry for me. the one who will give me squeeze hugs. her energy is healing.

the gem is the one who will turn my negativity around with a word. tell me i'm better than alright. his energy is uplifting.

the sag is the one who will share deep insights into human behavior *he is a recover addict* in a very inarticulate way.

i feel very whole with these people around. it may have something to do with my 3rd house venus, needing to communicate feelings and mutable signs are the most receptive to ideas and introspection.

posted November 18, 2004 01:28 PM            

What? I must have missed that? You fell for me? Hey, where was I? OMG...seriously...I fell the a blind bat.

Nackie,

I love what you had to say, that is so true. My uncle is a Gemini with a Virgo moon. He and I have this great affinity for each other- we both have the same weird sense of humor, we both have loved animals since we could first breathe, and we appreciate so many of the same things. I should send him an e-mail....

posted November 19, 2004 12:23 AM              

People say things about Taurus too,
that's negative thinking,

posted November 19, 2004 10:01 AM              

I'm interested to know why you should think that whingers necessarily think they are the only ones with a problem.

I am a champion whinger, but for me, it's not a question of "wallowing in misery", it's a question of working through the problem in hand, and naturally, because I am at least partly human, some emotion tends to get mixed in with it as well. I need to talk about my problems, which is why I have counselling, because if I didn't, I would just - EXPLODE!!!!!
Fact is, people have problems. That is an incontrovertible fact. Some appear to have more problems than others, whether this is to do with their character, fate, or some influences, we'll never really know, as Pixelpixie implied. Most of us can't really save others from themselves, but what we can do is exercise some patience with them, even when they are going through what they perceive to be hell, because they simply need that support.
What I don't appreciate is when people abuse that support and believe they can get away with doing whatever the hell they like. I unceremoniously "dumped" my mother a few years ago, since her narcissism and egotistical demands were getting ridiculous, and she refused point-blank to do anything to help herself. She's a Sag (LOL), and NOTHING makes her happy, as far as I can see. So my patience eventually snapped. I don't actually believe Fire signs are great at dealing with other people's problems. Of all the Fire signs, I'd say Aries women were perhaps the most patient. Certainly the most constructive (especially when dealing with other Aries).
Yesterday, I had plenty to moan about. I had just been to the chiropractor, who had pummelled me about like crazy. So my whole body felt as if it had been through the wringer. My head felt as if it was stuffed with cotton wool, I had a migraine, fibrocystic breasts and period pains, plus I had a class to teach, at which I received an evaluation from our local education provider saying my teaching was crap (how they arrived at that decision I'll never know, I don't "do" "unsatisfactory", you understand - all the class thought the evaluation was loony). Secondly, where longer-term issues are concerned, I have chronic candida which NOTHING seems to get rid of, my business is going slowly, and my husband's attitude is driving me crazy. Then again, I know people with MS and autistic children whose problems are obviously far worse than mine. Then again, I can appreciate that I live in a nice house in a nice area, I am doing a job I love doing, and my husband is good-looking, even if he is extremely lazy.

But there - we all get problems. And we can all reserve the right to moan about them. Even with the most seemingly "happy" people, one doesn't know what goes on behind closed doors. Mostly, I've found, it's an act. All for show. For what reason???

BTW: I don't like that quote of yours "along with your pity party - YEAH -"
That is a really sneering attitude, in my opinion. It smacks of a lack of genuine feeling. I come across that sort of attitude a lot with certain people in my life, and it quietly angers me.

LOL

AriesTiger

posted November 19, 2004 12:24 PM              

My ex has serious candida problems, men and women pass it back and forth,

Sorry if this is the wrong moment, blame my sixth house sun and Virgo Midheaven!

The best medicine is yogurt, no sugar, and grapefruit seed extract, also I cut out coffee,

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posted November 19, 2004 12:51 PM            

Back up the bus...slow down..what in the hell are you talking about?

Do you mean "whiners" or "Whingers"? The latter reminds of me of a red bull commercial.

If you mean people that wallow in their misery - hey more power to you...wallow away, but it is not written (at least not anywhere that I can find) that people must wallow in the same pit of misery.

I will be there for my friends / family. I always listen to their problems and help them find solutions. BUT, there comes a time with certain people that their negativity and self pity is so pervasive and last so long that they actually "induce" depression in other people.

I don't need that. I have a 4th house Sun, Mars in Pisces and a few watery type planets- it makes me FEEL what they are feeling and I start to get depressed. How can I help my friend if I am just as desperate as them? I can't..

Now on occassion I have meet several perpetually angry, depressed or negative people. People that are not just expressing their sadness, frustration or fear in a healthy manner, but take a special delight in bringing other people down. I have a choice, and that choice is to either stay and be depressed or leave. I choose to leave if they are just emotional vampires.

posted November 19, 2004 02:55 PM              

Pidaua,
Can I say that I am really glad you have posted this and made your point clear in more detail. Perhaps I was barking up the wrong tree!
I agree that emotional vampires are prone to ruining their own relationships. I have learned to emotionally detach (I didn't use to be able to)around these sorts of people, but still be kind and helpful. If they are really too awful I have to sever connections.
Actually, to be honest, I'm in the sort of weird position now where I haven't got a great deal of friends, mostly acquaintances. So I don't find myself involved so much on a deeper level with people.
I can understand your need for positivity.