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Topic: When Men Cry
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astro junkie
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posted November 24, 2004 06:37 PM
 
"Right now, YOU don't care if he can cry with you and still act macho outside the bedroom...
(me says impressive observation)
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sthenri
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posted November 24, 2004 10:06 PM
Welcome Cazi, I imagine you have sunshine in your part of the world,Scorpio Moons and Libra moons understand each other better than most, I can see it, Take Care,
Natasha
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cazimiphoenix
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posted November 25, 2004 02:33 PM
Thx for the welcome...Lotsa sunshine... I'm in AZ @ the moment... ... and huh? How'd you jump to the Sco & Lib moon conclusion?? Did you mean Cancer moon instead of Libra moon? IP: Logged |
moonbaby
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posted November 25, 2004 02:43 PM
hi cazi, whats up?...have you read miss muffets interpretations of libra-scorpio male...
libra sun-scorp moon that is? how old are you, if you dont mind my asking? and where is AZ? IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted November 25, 2004 03:19 PM
The only man I ever knew to cry when feeling emotional about something was my Cancer ex. (he's also my kid's dad). He wouldn't...like...BAWL and sob out-loud, he would just get a lump in his throat, and would have to stop talking for a second or two, then his eyes would tear up. Then, he'd choke it down and try to be strong. He still gets glossy-eyed fairly easily. I think that's very touching. I'm another one of those people who rarely cries. I just analyse my feelings away. Typical Aqua moon.  IP: Logged |
moonbaby
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posted November 25, 2004 03:33 PM
my dad...23rd july, so cancer-leo cusp...very emotional...cries at the drop of a hat...he is sooo emotional, and my aries brother too i used to be, but not so much now...not so much at all...much more logical now...
venus in gem, moon in cap most probably... IP: Logged |
cazimiphoenix
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posted November 25, 2004 03:40 PM
From "The Book of Lovers" ?Yeah. It's spot on... except for the ambitions. I'm in the film industry and gearing towards law school. Tie it all up with my Aqua rising and Sag mars... and I'm adventurously impulsive as well as vindictively explosive. 22. AZ = Arizona. (Southwestern U.S.) To not continue entirely off-topic... I usually only cry out of sheer rage whenever I'm set to erupt every few months.
It's almost like my tears are sweat trying to cool me down. If I'm with my partner, I can cry when watching those few extraordinarily passionate films... like "Look Back in Anger" or "Night of the Iguana". Or when alone and a song is completely attuned to my mood... so much that it's the first instant I listened to the accuracy of the lyrics. With the exception of one, (he's dying), never have any of my lifelong male friends seen me cry. Only my brothers and father. Come to think of it... only family or deeply committed girlfriends have seen me shed tears. My father didn't let us cry as kids... and that really, really f*ed up my older bro w/ Cancer moon. IP: Logged |
moonbaby
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posted November 25, 2004 03:51 PM
i am sorry to hear about your friend...whats the matter with him?what did your dad do when you guy cried? have you ever been to the burning man festival? IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 25, 2004 04:24 PM
"Burning Man" will be one of the stops on my World Tour this time. I've missed too many already.IP: Logged |
moonbaby
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posted November 25, 2004 04:30 PM
yea? i would love to check it out....must check out your world tour...and info on the burning man...is it possible to go by yourself?IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 25, 2004 04:40 PM
That's a good question. I would have caravanned with someone who's been a faithful for mucho years... But a girl with hitching skills doesn't worry about such anyways.IP: Logged |
moonbaby
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posted November 25, 2004 04:50 PM
how did you harness your skills, aj?IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 25, 2004 04:59 PM
You need to find a good mentor.Have you seen "Even Cowgirl's Get the Blues"? With Uma Thurman. If you can fully grasp the concepts in that movie, than you're a natural. It's like meditation, or the martial arts, including Tai Chi. Trust me on that ... hee hee ... IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted November 25, 2004 05:05 PM
*whispers* Read the book.. Tom Robbins enchanted me almost *ALMOST* as much as Linda Godman.
Then read Skinny Legs and All.... Still life with Woodpecker.. his newer one.. Fierce invalids from hot climates I still have yet to read.IP: Logged |
moonbaby
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posted November 25, 2004 05:10 PM
thanks for the tip, man...you see, i would love to be able to take off to all the places i have wanted to see...but have been dependent on company which almost always never works out....and its frustrating...so find a mentor i shall  that pretty much spans travelling alone, right? IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 25, 2004 05:32 PM
Well, I don't want to bore people here again about what to put in their survival bag (switchblade, a mirror, a lighter, mosquito repellant, mini sewing kit, paper, pen, etc.)So, plus you got the mentor, which is the most difficult part. Plus a whole lifetime without a watch. IP: Logged |
alchemiest
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posted November 25, 2004 10:59 PM
Still LIfe with Woodpecker... LOL that book cracked me up! It was awesome! IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 25, 2004 11:22 PM
From amazon.com"From the Inside Flap Still Life with Woodpecker is sort of a love story that takes place inside a pack of Camel cigarettes. It reveals the purpose of the moon, explains the difference between criminals and outlaws, examines the conflict between social activism and romantic individualism, and paints a portrait of contemporary society that includes powerful Arabs, exiled royalty, and pregnant cheerleaders. It also deals with the problem of redheads."
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sthenri
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posted November 25, 2004 11:31 PM
Cazi, Libra and Scorpio moons get along well in my personal experience, and so your moon placement brought back memories.I'm a Cancer Moon myself, in the 8th house, with Sag Mars, same here with crying, first anger, then tears, then explosion, like a tea kettle going off. Question, to another Sag Mars with water moon, do you get embarassed easily or is it just the opposite?? Natasha
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cazimiphoenix
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posted November 27, 2004 12:17 PM
I DO get along with many Libra moons as friends... but definitely, absolutely, without a doubt and most importantly NOT in a long term intimate relationship. Wanna see the exact textbook definition of vile jealousy? Well, strap on some shatterproof eye goggles (the kind they use to watch atom bomb tests)... and watch me teamed up with a Libra moon girl. Their general need to become shallow friends w/ EVERYONE infringes my ingrained NEED for loyalty. Makes me ready to murder any poor schmuck who smirks at me, thinking he has something over me 'cuz my floozy Libra moon hypothetical girlfriend is paying him much smiling attention during the middle of our _______ (insert such events as "dinner", "dance", "stroll", "conversation"... etc.) Then when she finally notices that my seething sulfur glare scared off the little prick... she'll endlessly argue by intellectualizing my passionate reaction as irrational... (when the only thing that's irrational is our relationship)... wrapping up the experience with a Nuclear fallout ribbon that lasts the next 15 seconds of our now-to-be-trashed relationship. Just enough time to reload. Next target? Four feet away with lipstick. She'll float off crying... while asking herself how anyone could be so cruel to deny a princess... and for one split-second she'll actually experience a deep-felt emotion... that triggers the memory of her male-friend harem waiting to console her. Lights up and hops back on her seashell. After plenty of loving from her mass of hopeful worshippers... she'll return at my door and try to make amends... she MUST have her way after all... but I'm halfway around the world by then... NEVER to return. I don't want any radiation problems... and I leave the nuclear clean-up to her harem. All the Libra moon females I've dated had an Aphrodite complex. She loves to stir up the men she's involved with... placing them in soap-opera situations so that they'll either compete or kill each other for her. Only so that she can exercise her famed "peace-making" skills and soothingly manipulate the pseudo-victor into believing he's won (then calls up the other guy later that night). Outside of a relationship... I love them... how couldn't I? They're goddesses. They believe it so much... that they actually are. Seriously. They're great to be around because they do make you feel special. ... and THAT is why... I do not date Libra moons. They're like dining at a five diamond restaurant... they'll have you believe you are their most esteemed client... but really... they'll give service to anyone who saved up and dressed up enough to get in there. Even without a reservation sometimes. She'll take care of the music and candlelight of course. And me... with my stubborn Scorpio qualities... I like to frequent the same spot... and to have my reservation postponed in order to accommodate someone else... after my endless loyalty. KAPOW! Bye-bye! I'm loving the Cancer moon homecooked private meal more and more. Oh... and I don't get embarrassed easily... Must be b/c of my Aqua rising & Uranus sextile mercury. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted November 27, 2004 12:27 PM
Great post!
A way with words.IP: Logged |
cazimiphoenix
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posted November 27, 2004 12:31 PM
Oh-... and do I cry during any of this? Only if I hop back in the car... flip on the stereo... and I hear lyrics like... "You know he got the cure, but then he went astray
He used to stay awake to drive the dreams he had away
He wanted to believe in the hands of love His head it felt heavy as he cut across the land
A dog started crying like a broken hearted man
At the howling wind, the howling wind He went deeper into black - deeper into white
He could see the stars shine like nails in the night
He felt the healing, healing, healing, healing hands of love
Like the star that is shining from above He put his hands in the pocket
His finger on the steel
The pistol weighed heavy
His heart he could feel
Was beating, beating, beating
Oh my love - oh my love - oh my love He saw the hands that build could also pull down
The hands of love" ... and then I get p*ed off that someone got to me... and I put my fist through the windshield. Consequently, I become obsessed with my work to repair the damages... until it happens again. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted November 27, 2004 01:11 PM
cazi -It's wonderful that you can express yourself this way. I love it. Reminds me of my Mercury in Scorpio in my 6th. I'm a Libra Sun, but lots of Earth & Water, so flaky don't live here. What some may READ as flaky, (and then walk out of the theater to avoid the ending) ... that's another story. I can remember my first years of true dating, I had "opportunities" like this, and yes, it made a few hot-blooded lovers extremely jealous (why - I don't know - I'm alive and I'm beautiful) - But I don't know, maybe it was my analytical Venus & Pluto Conjunct Virgo in my 4th, or my "voice of wisdom" - my Jupiter & Saturn in Capricorn in my 9th ... I just wouldn't take it much further, and do not seek the company of gossipy, superficial people. I'd look for two sources here. One, if the behavior is hiding a deep-rooted fear of being alone. Or two, if she has anything prominent in her Chart in Fixed Elements. IP: Logged |
cazimiphoenix
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posted November 28, 2004 02:51 PM
AJThanks. My mercury is in the 8th. I wasn't referring to dating... I was talking about long-term relationships. When I'm dating... I AM the distant, detached and flirtatious one. Pure Aqua rising, Libra and Sag. Nothing but cheer, dining and playful wrestling. Not much scorpio comes out aside from my stare and stillness. In these cases, the girls I date either become insanely possessive, jealous and sometimes even violent- especially when we're not hooking up. I've just come to accept it. Strapped down for a long-term ride (only way tie me down is to have me feel that the girl is in it for the rest of life)... and SUPRISE! ALL of my 8th house team, my tight Pluto-Sun-Venus-Saturn conjunction w/ Mercury tagging along, AND my Scorpio moon take over as if all that breezy Libra, Aqua and Sag was just a Clark Kent identity for my real Batman persona (yes, Clark Kent, not Bruce Wayne). It's because in a relationship... the moon usually takes over. Never will Libra moons (Not talking about Libra suns) be intimately compatible with my own moon sign. Instinctually flighty indecision does not see eye-to-eye with innately fierce commitment. I was told that perhaps a Libra moon with a pluto rising could do the trick... I've yet to meet one... If you were asking me about one particular girl, then you're talking about the ex that I initially brought up in this thread. (There's been others) She barely had any fixed elements... All cardinal and mutable except for her Leo rising. She definitely had deep fears of being abandoned. Sadly, she didn't admit it until it was waaaaay too late. She claimed it was her own Libra father that did the damage. She had a very tough chart and I might have been able to continue helping her as a friend had we never become sexually involved.
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moonbaby
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posted November 29, 2004 01:10 PM
cazimi...you sound really hot....i think the libra-scorpio moon is such a fine sign for a man cos you got all the emotional depth but with an absolutely beautiful way of expressing it in words heres to ya... IP: Logged | |
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