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moonshine
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posted December 22, 2004 07:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a guy had Venus in Leo and Mars in Cancer, does this mean he is Leo-like in bed (ie good!) but shy to get there in the first place?

And If they are both in the 10th house, what kind of spin does that put on things? (10th house is capricorn, right? So is this not to do with love life after all, or only to do with capricorn-type issues such as work?)

Sorry if my question is confusing -Im just trying to understand how the houses affect the planets and the signs with this example.

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ladya
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posted December 23, 2004 12:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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moonshine
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posted December 23, 2004 05:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you mean? did you edit my post?

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ladya
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posted December 23, 2004 06:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no i edited mine - will get back to you about this later. thanks

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moonshine
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posted December 23, 2004 07:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ok!

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astro junkie
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posted December 23, 2004 11:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonshine -

That's a GREAT question - not confusing to me, anyways. It sounds like you've got the gyst of it. And add the 10th House, and you've got perhaps shyness, work to share their feelings.

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amisha121877
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posted December 23, 2004 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol - wow, that's interesting. i hadn't really thought about that but I can see it clearly now. THANKS! venus mars / house house..............

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moonshine
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posted December 23, 2004 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"That's a GREAT question - not confusing to me, anyways. It sounds like you've got the gyst of it. And add the 10th House, and you've got perhaps shyness, work to share their feelings."

Right, so the 10th house, being ruled by Saturn, which is the bringer of obstacles into your life, means that the person has to work harder in his lovelife because this area of his life is not going to come easy to him right?

So what if his houses were in another house like the 3rd for example, what would this do? If its ruled by Gemini, then presumably he might be pretty curious and communicative about sex? Will that combat the shyness that he gets from his Mars in Cancer, or will the Mars in Cancer influence be stronger than the house? Does it depend on the degrees they are in as to which is stronger?

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moonshine
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posted December 23, 2004 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have another question about the same issue:

I have venus in virgo in 3rd house and Mars in Aquarius in 8th. I think they both make sense to me - i am quite shy and "virgo-like" when it comes to sex and its true I like things clean!! And the 3rd house would mean that I show my love by communicating and looking after everyday details right?

The Mars in Aquarius bit i can understand - I do avoid relationships and dont miss them when I'm single and Im not a clingy-type of woman when I'm in one - but the 8th house part I find hard to get. How does scorpio come into this? Scorpio is hugely into relationships and passion right? So how does my Mars in Aquarius figure into this? I dont get it!!

Please help me! Ta sorry for my annoying questions

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astro junkie
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posted December 25, 2004 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NOT annoying - these are good questions no one else has asked.

One way to keep it clear is to think of the Sign the Planet is in as the "personality" the Planet receives from the influence of the Sign. The AREA OF LIFE is determined by the House.


"Venus in 10th House -

Venus in the Tenth House affords the native a strong attraction to the artistic professions. The native may be connected, in one way or another, with some form of singing, dancing or acting. This is an excellent influence for financial success in the banking, accounting or insurance worlds. The societal and public position ensures the native considerable prestige. The native may exert some political influence if he can learn to blend his political views with his social life in which case he should attain high personal prestige.


Mars in 10th House -

Mars indicates that the native's profession may be associated with activities of an architectural or engineering nature. The native, of this position of Mars, often demonstrates the capacity to study medicine, surgery, dentistry, chemistry or photography. It increases the spirit of enterprise but indicates that the native should avoid taking unnecessary risks. He should also endeavor to control the impulsive side of his character as it can cause him many problems."


AND


Venus in 3rd House -

This is an excellent position for matters concerning the native's relatives and neighbors. The relationships here will most definitely be of a harmonious nature. There is an indication that the native has a strong capacity for studies related to art and literature, as well as professional writing, lecturing and oratory. The desire for travel is intensified and this position is normally good for short distance travel. There are congenial conditions in connection with travel and traveling companions. The kind of travel will correspond with the Sign in the Cusp."


"Mars in 8th House -

When Mars is in the Eighth House the liability to a violent and sudden death increases. Death can also occur through a very bad wound or as a result of an operation. Sometimes there is a bad fever which affects the head, the excretory or generative organs. As far as marriage and business partners are concerned, endless problems are indicated. The native will find that his partner may be overly extravagant and this may cause some severe financial losses.

There are prospects of gain indicated through legacy or inheritance. There will be substantial dispute with the marriage or business partner concerning the handling of the money."

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Deira
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posted December 25, 2004 06:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Good questions. My Venus is in Scorpio (11th), and Mars in Sag (1st). While I more or less understand them seperatly, its hard for me to combine them. I don't know if they are in opposition or just don't make an aspect to each other?


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pixelpixie
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posted December 26, 2004 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, they wouldn't be an opposition, as they are only a sign away from each other. I have Venus in Sag and Mars in Scorpio. Neat. They'd maybe make a minor aspect, depending on degrees, but it is so minor, I can't remember off the top of my head what neighbour signs are called. Not inconjunct....semi-sextile? nope.. ot that either.... hmmmmm.
The energy of both are very different, but smehow harmonious, as you get to see their influence. Scorpio in the eleventh would somewhat dilute the more negatives of Scorpio I would think.. it, being ruled by Uranus, would lend a rather humanitarian air to the way you love.. and the comforts you seek ( through friendships)and a less possessive view on your loved ones... Mars in first? (and Sag ascendant) Woud give you an excellent view from the world's point of view.... you'd probably seem very energetic at first glance too, and not afraid to take initiative.....

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geminstone
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posted December 26, 2004 03:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Astro junkie,.... and anyone else,
Is there a, more, positive; optimistic way of interpereting the placement of Mars in the 8th?
What if you are an Aries and, your Sun is in the 8th as well? I thought Mars was sometimes considered a co-ruler of Scorpio. The 8th is Scorpio territory, right? Why is this Mars placement always given such a heavy, death sentence? Is the 8th considered inconjunct the 1st? I realize that the event of ' death ', in any form, is an 8th house concern but, so is ' birth ', correct? If I'm not mistaken, Mars is representative of one's vitality...? If so, where can the ' birth ' overtone interperetations be found, just to give more balence to this placement? Does anyone know? Sorry, if I come across a bit neurotic, my Son has this placement. I see nothing but LIFE in him and, TONS of it! I have, yet, to find a brighter interperetation and, it does freak the Mama out!! The high fever referrence is, definitely, accurate though! My boy has an affinity for the sea, thankfully! I give my thanks in advance, for any and all insight!
~ geminstone

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trillian
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posted December 26, 2004 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darlin' Pixie...I just have to add that in some charts, a planet in Scorp and a planet in Sag could have a major aspect...they could be conjunct.

You're right about semi-sextile, that's 30 degrees. 45 degrees is semi-square.

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pixelpixie
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posted December 26, 2004 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that's true, Trillian. I was just focusing on the term 'opposition'. But yes, I guess they could be conjunct. Not in that case though, as it was the eleventh and first houses in question.

Did you have a good holiday?

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Deira
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posted December 26, 2004 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Pixie and Trillian . The aspects get confusing for me at times. Hope you had a Merry Christmas.

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pixelpixie
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posted December 26, 2004 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Diera.
I know, I am still confused by them, but with practice, it gets easier. Keep posting and learning, same as I....
My Christmas started on xmas eve.. I worked and then went to the in-laws for dinner, My daughter wasn't feeling great, then she threw up on me.. I raced her to the sink to aim it there, and when my poor angel was finished, she said "Oh mommy, I am sorry I threw up on your jacket." I was incredulous! This poor sweet little thing, so excited about Santa and presents, throwing up on xmas eve, and sweetly worried that she'd ruined my jacket. I told her I am just worried about her. She spent the rest of the night on my lap, cuddled in, with a pail in front of her, drinking water and barely mustering enough gusto to open presents. ***poor baby***. The next day though, she woke up and I asked her how she was feeling.. she said "Fantastic!" ***clearly, she wasn't fantasic**** and it took us a while to get it togther and do the xmas thing at home, then off visiting *she stayed away from her cousins* She is naping like crazy today.
There have been better Xmases, but her attitude makes it all okay.
And how was yours?

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trillian
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posted December 26, 2004 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie, hope your wee one is much better now.

Christmas was...fine. Ate too much. Drank too much. Had two days off in a row and that was cool. Got a "Mr. Wonderful" doll. He says things like "Let's just cuddle tonight" and "can't your mother stay another week?"

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Secret Garden
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posted December 26, 2004 06:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol trillian
like the part about the mother staying
another good one would have been, look honey! i put down the toilet seat

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astro junkie
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posted December 27, 2004 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
geminstone -

I totally understand your reaction to that 8th House Mars. One thing you can do is consider now that you have the knowledge to be aware of such dangers in your life. Also, consider that this may give you an advantage in understanding all things 8th House, and with just the right ingredients, you can make the most of your knowledge.

It's normal to wish for less "hard" indications in your Chart. Every single one of us has an issue with difficult challenges in our own Charts. Feel free to discuss this as much as you want.

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geminstone
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posted December 28, 2004 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro J,

If I came off as a bit bi*c*y in that post, I do apologize. I know, all too well, that we all have our own challenging aspects. Without them, I believe, life would be boring and, somewhat, reasonless. The Mars in the 8th interps are somewhat disturbing to me because my Son is a Mars in the 8th person. Being his mother, I worry, you know...? He does have a good grasp of what death is about and, puts in his own ideas about it. He has a great love of the shark( we live in Colorado and, his first trip to the ocean came long after this affinity developed). From around the age of 6, his goal has been to be a crusader for the understanding and protection of these animals. He is only 8 now but, I see him being a ' Steve Erwin ', kind of individual, in the area of sharks. Anyway, I am out of time so, I just wanted to let you know that I was not, in any way, attacking you or, the interpretation you gave. I just wonder if there exists any other, more positive out looks for this Mars placement.
Thanks.

~ geminstone

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astro junkie
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posted December 28, 2004 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
geminstone -

No no no... I didn't think you came across that way at all. Here is a place you can let out all kinds of thoughts and feelings, within reason. That's OK - don't feel bad about it. Keep on keeping on!

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moonshine
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posted December 29, 2004 05:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Mars in 8th House -

When Mars is in the Eighth House the liability to a violent and sudden death increases. Death can also occur through a very bad wound or as a result of an operation. Sometimes there is a bad fever which affects the head, the excretory or generative organs. As far as marriage and business partners are concerned, endless problems are indicated. The native will find that his partner may be overly extravagant and this may cause some severe financial losses.

There are prospects of gain indicated through legacy or inheritance. There will be substantial dispute with the marriage or business partner concerning the handling of the money."

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Thanks astro junkie. It doesnt sound too good! So does Aquarius in Mars in the 8th improve things a bit or make it worse?

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astro junkie
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posted December 30, 2004 12:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Mars in Aquarius:

Mars is force, energy, aggression. Here it tends to be focused to the intellect, as, for example, in the horoscope of chess champion Bobby Fischer. He has Mars opposite Pluto, planet of extremes, making him a bit obsessive. He just HAS to win. Mars shows how we fight. In Aquarius, it will come at you from unexpected directions."

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astro junkie
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posted December 30, 2004 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here more on Saturn in Taurus :::
http://groups.msn.com/interpretations2/saturnintaurus1.msnw


Here's more on Mars in Aquarius :::
http://groups.msn.com/interpretations2/marsinaquarius1.msnw


Here's more on Mars in the 8th House :::
http://groups.msn.com/interpretations4/marsin8th1.msnw


Here's more on Saturn in the 3rd House :::
http://groups.msn.com/interpretations4/saturnin3rd1.msnw

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