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Topic: Signs that never will get along
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littlefishee
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posted December 22, 2004 08:59 PM
 
I've had lots of Libra guy friends and in the beginning, the friendship will be great. All of our conversations will start out friendly, but somehow every discussion turns into some sort of heated debate (practically fighting), and we'll both be upset at each other. This has happened with three of my Libra friends.
So my question is this : Are there some signs that just wont mesh well together? and is Pisces-Libra one of them?IP: Logged |
Autumn wind
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posted December 22, 2004 09:12 PM
Hi! Well, I'm a Libra but I'm not sure if that's true or not. I'm probably a poor example because I have a really good friend who is a Pisces and we of course get along very well. However, my sister-in-law is also a Pisces and she annoys me quite a lot! I argue with her because she has that I know everything and I'm better than you personality. I personally think it depends on the person. IP: Logged |
aries-chick
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posted December 22, 2004 09:13 PM
Heya WELCOMEPisces - Libra can mesh if the Pisces has planets in air signs or if the Libra has planets in water signs. Typically they don't get along either really well OR not at all, it's somewhere in between. That being said my best friend, Pisces doesn't get along with my bf, Libra..She has venus and mars in Aries. Whereas my other friend, Pisces who has lots and I mean lotsssss of air in her chart, it's all air basically, she gets along with him great. Usually the typical interpretations wouldn't really bring out Pisces Libra arguing...cause normally even if they don't agree the Pisces would back down and it wouldn't turn into a fight, but I'm guessing you have some more fiesty signs in your chart. One other thing I just thought of...If your sun is right at the end of Pisces and their Sun is right at the start of Libra ..ur suns could be opposed by degree..that might affect your relationship to. PS keep in mind neva eva get emotional in an argument with a Libran..They don't see it as an emotional thing, but they'd deffinetly argue it into oblivion which can get annoying after a while ...but honestly try to not take it to heart...they mean well, they wanna balance everything so they have to take the opposite point of view. IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted December 23, 2004 12:36 AM
That general angle is called a quincunx, and it is in my opinion the worst angle between sun signs. Without other aspects/planets in common, (like a moon trine sun/moon conjunct sun), these relationships are somewhat doomed to failure. Their energies cannot connect.
As a saggitarius, my problem sign is cancer, who I can never seem to connect with, and all my "enemies" in life so far have been cancers. THis rule sometimes doesn't work, however, as shared ruler quincunxs like aries-scorp and taurus-libra will often have a penchant for one another even without other meshing elements in their charts. The key to tackling libras is, I agree, not getting emotional, and often just admitting you are wrong and patronizing them. (but don't let them know you are) If you argue they will continue talking until you want to run away. It's best to just concede. IP: Logged |
Secret Garden
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posted December 23, 2004 12:46 AM
it also depends somewhat on how mutable vs. how cardinal/fixed you are. for example, i have an uncle who has 8 planets (or 7 i think) in cardinal signs. when he starts talking everyone else either goes to sleep or bangs their heads against the wall. coz he thinks its his way or the high way period and he is soooo bornig and will takl to death and not listen to others.
hes a libra sun with aries moon, cancer venus and mars i believe, and pluto in libra i think.
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aries-chick
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posted December 23, 2004 12:50 AM
BR - Concede...Neva I say neva  see those lil aries horns poping out? thats why. Na I'd keep arguin till the ends of time, I don't really mind it ..but I'd do it in a lighthearted joking manner rather than a grrrrrr me right u wrong, now shush..way. I actually enjoy arguing with Librans when their my friends and we kid arround about it. PS It prolly is good advice to concede though..if the argument starts to really bother you IP: Logged |
hailstorm
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posted December 23, 2004 05:56 AM
Hello,I thought the general rule with signs not getting along are signs 90 degrees from each other? For example, I'm a Libra Sun and it's harder, though not impossible, to get along with Cancers and Capricorns. And it's a love-hate ambivalent feeling between opposing signs. Pisces and Libra may work; my parents (mom's pisces, dad's libra) had been married for over 20 years. They get along pretty well. IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl
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posted December 23, 2004 06:11 AM
YES! The quincunx rule is applicable to me too. Too many of my enemies have been Cancerians, and at best, we argue... a lot. We just clash. It doesn't work. Virgo not so much. I seem to be able to have good friendships with Virgos, but close relationships do not work. I just cannot connect with Cancers. There just seems to be a chasm between us that cannot be overcome. At best it's icy, at worst we despise one another. A guy I almost dated just before my current boyfriend was a Cancer, and the only reason I "almost" dated him is because he got on my nerves so quick! LOL! He ended up ******* me off so bad that I threatened him with violence if he ever showed up at my apt (he gave me a stalker vibe... and I don't intimidate easy... so I told him what would happen if he ever stalked me basically). I kind of knew it wouldn't work out as soon as I saw his chart (before things went awry, lol)... not because he was a Cancer, but I just remember looking at his chart and thinking... "there's nothing here for me to connect with!"... It was all Water and Earth, I think he was a Cancer moon too. God he was annoying! IP: Logged |
Aen
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posted December 23, 2004 07:39 AM
Re quincunxI have to disagree. I don't buy the 'doomed' stuff anyway, but as far as my quincunx signs go, it has been very good. Relationships (regardless the nature of relationship) are strong and enourmously giving. We seem to mutally bring out the best in each other. And I don't have any planets or angles in these signs. IP: Logged |
future_uncertain
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posted December 23, 2004 09:32 AM
BlueRoamer, the quincux thing seems to be true for me. I'm a sag and while I really enjoy the silly side of cancer, I find that the relationships (with males and females) tend to have a sense of insurmountable chasm-ness. (It's in the dictionary, I swear!)What would sag's other quincux sign be? Taurus? Or is there one? Because I do get along extremely well with Taureans, but my Jupiter is in Taurus. Also, my seventh house is Cancer and it's empty. I don't know if these things are significant or not. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted December 23, 2004 11:44 AM
I think Libra's & Pisces can do well together. The Libra's you speak of you may be more analytical, though. Just ask them to deny or confirm any thoughts you have on why they like to debate, or seemingly, be arguable. You may be surprised, it may not be personal ( or may be ).
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sthenri
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posted December 23, 2004 12:41 PM
I had a very dear Pisces friend/Venus Aqua, and when I married the Libra, they hated each other. I had to choose, one over the other, and the Libra threatened the Pisces over and over again. The Pisces became cold and angry towards me and I said never again will I try to bring the two together. In the end I wish I had broken it off with both rather than be in the middle.But I miss my Pisces, because the Libra always reminds me of him. And I know if I talk to the Pisces I will remember the fights:< Natasha
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littlefishee
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posted December 23, 2004 01:17 PM
Wow. Thanks for all the responses.  .
Well, I'm very mutable with a Gemini Rising and Virgo Moon and He's a Scorpio Rising, and an Aries Moon. I've also got a Mars in Capricorn (along with Saturn Uranus and Neptune - although I don't know if that's important) I suppose all of that might have to do with it. When we argue I tend to leave as soon as the option is opened. But I think I'll talk to him about it. Who knows, right? IP: Logged |
KarenSD
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posted December 24, 2004 02:31 AM
Pisces & Libra = a bad mixSorry to say!!! I'm a Pisces female and I have had trouble with Libra males for years, and friends who are females have been difficult for me to maintain friendships with. Wish i had more positive news... IP: Logged |
sweetlibra
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posted December 24, 2004 03:43 AM
I have a good pisces girl friend. Our views are quite different but there's a strong bond between us.
I think it has to do with her Libra moon and Aqua rising (wow her moon conjuncts my sun and her rising conjuncts my moon and i found out just now )
At times she drives me nuts but i really appreciate her ability to tolerate anything
Its really fun to go out with her for shopping  IP: Logged |
supernovajen
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posted December 25, 2004 07:16 AM
I have a hard time getting along with fellow cancers.....we just clash way too much! hehe! I know a Pisces-Libra couple and they have been married 10 years, it seams to work well for them... ------------------
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astro junkie
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posted December 25, 2004 05:09 PM
.. and, I don't know ... I just got inspired to say something that maybe Linda Goodman would agree with, and that is, not all Signs get along which each other to the same degree. But I think we are all obligated to at least attempt to build bridges rather than burn them. We all have a lot to teach each other, and there are many lessons to be learned in this lifetime. It takes all kinds ...IP: Logged |
Secret Garden
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posted December 26, 2004 12:40 AM
i agree AJ
some peoples charts, are extremely single-focus narrow in the way that they have clusters of planets in either the same house, the same sign, the same quality (cardinal/mutable/fixed) or the same element. It can create a lot of problems. Also, some people are so susceptible to the various influences that they become complicated puppies. (ex. my Leo friend with Moon in Scorpio and Mars and Venus conjunct in Cancer. BOY is he emotional!).
I personally believe that aspects and sun-sign patterns can give you insights about how thing will naturally go if you let them be, but if you try to shape relationships by changing behaviors and attitudes, then magic can happen, and I personally attest to this because Ive witnessed it myself
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LeylaLeFay
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posted December 26, 2004 03:07 AM
When a Libra goes bad: A cautionary tale.  TRUST ME, it's not just you. Libras love a hot debate. They're the scales remember? They just love to weigh and balance an argument. IF a Libra chooses to use their powers for Evil they will create an argument where there was no argument before. One Libra I knew well would deliberatly orchestrate a fight between two friends, just so he could put himself in the middle with both of them trying to "win him over" to their side.
 He really enjoyed the feeling of authority this gave him, sitting in the middle, hearing both sides of the fight, and making rational and reasonable sounding comments. He thought he was the mediator- when really he was the instigator! After creating five or six fights between them, his victims would begin to dish dirt on each other. They would tell him every bad thing they knew about their "friend" that might damage their credibility. Even to the point of exaggerating or lying. They did this to gain his approval and get him to "see it their way." Meanwhile, he was drunk with power, and knew many ill-gotten secrets.  The result: many people I knew who had been close friends for years were no longer speaking to one another after he was done. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted December 27, 2004 12:56 PM
SecretGarden -That DOES sound like an infectiously emotional person. Oh my God! How do you deal?
LeyLa -
This particular Libran you speak of has got major issues!! That's not mediating for the sake of making things better. That's causing the disease in the first place. Ewwwww ... not someone I'd be anxious to get to know. ------------------
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pidaua
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posted December 27, 2004 01:57 PM
Yes, the quincux aspect does make sense, but I think like anything it needs work. My mother is a Cancer with a Cancer moon ( I am a Sag with an Aries moon). We have our battles, BUT..there is also this understanding. I believe if it hadn't been for her Cancer placements (along with my Dad's Cancer moon / cancer placements) I would not be able to understand the emotional nature of Cancer. I do not date Cancer men (not as a rule, but because we seem to be attracted to each other, but I find their moods and sensitivity to be too much for my fire). Cancer women and I make good friends - but again, my fire nature does not bode well for their sensitive nature- in fact, sometimes even Cancer moons are too much for me and I am too much for them. I should also note that I have a T-square with my Aries moon (7th house) Uranus in Libra Singleton (1st house) and Merc in Capricorn (4th house). Cancer placements complete my T-square and end up having an important position in my life (like my current love - he has Venus / Saturn in Cancer completing my T-square. My Merc in Capricorn completes his T-square). LOL...
The other sign would be Taurus. I get alot very well with Taurus women, but for the longest time had a battle of wills. My former boss was a Taurus that would NOT allow a woman to be right or heard if it was different that his view. He was rude, overbearing and just about everything an unevolved Taurus could be. I was almost hell bent on NEVER allowing another Taurus in my life as a friend or otherwise..(of course then FATE does just that LOL). In my former bosses case he NEVER had anyone counter him and those that did eventually were worn down by him. I wouldn't relent. (Maybe is it Pluto in the first house conjuncting my Ascendant or my own Saturn in Taurus in the 8th).
He tried everything to break my spirit, even stripping all of us of our offices to put us in cubicles so he could watch us...lol...it didn't work, I still got my freedom and he NEVER saw me in that cubicle (he was on vacation when they moved us and I relocated to AZ before he got back). I can see my own Taurus mate having that "I am always right attitude" Sometimes I bring out the worst in making him understand that he needs to bend a little. That listening to another's view won't hurt him. That is can't be his way or the highway unless he wants to be alone. He needs that fire in his life...and I need that stability of a Taurus. So in actuality, the quincux does compliment each other - if both parties are willing to put themselves in the other's shoes. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted December 28, 2004 11:28 AM
That's really interesting Pidaua, especially the way you complete each other's T-Square's. I have a Cancer Moon and since my own Chart offers challenges of "should I be feeling this or should I be logical here" - people with strong Cancer influences usually lead me down a too emotional path, which to a certain extent, I don't feel comfortable with. My inclination is towards people who are charismatic, humorous, yet sensitive. In other words, emotional and sensitive to just the right degree - Does that make sense? I know others here have also said, they have a Water Sun or Moon which they are not comfortable with sometimes, and being with others with strong Water influences is difficult. ------------------
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pidaua
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posted December 28, 2004 01:57 PM
AJ.. I think you are absolutely right. I can see my own brother's Scorp moon sometimes really bringing out the emotional intensity in my mom. With all my earth / fire I kind of have an even keel BUT..that Fire Sun / Fire moon has a hard time with others that have too much fire. Most of my signficant relationships are with men that have strong earth and a touch of water. The Earth evens out my hyper-reactivity and the water helps me understand other's emotional needs. I was with a very fiery / air Leo. Our relatinship was good and light, but it did not deal well with deep emotional issues. That is interesting how it all works out..the sum of all of our parts versus just the "sun to sun" interactions. IP: Logged |
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posted June 02, 2016 01:12 PM
Opposite signs don't get along. They say opposites attract each other, well in the vast majority of cases it's not true. Relationships within the same element are the most harmonious in my opinion. IP: Logged |
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posted June 03, 2016 09:46 AM
Opposites can attract or repel. It depends.IP: Logged |
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