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moonstar77
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posted January 03, 2005 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still learning here...how important is Neptune in a relationship chart?

I think my boyfriend and I have really good Neptune aspects in synastry, like Sun trine Neptune, Mercury trine Neptune from off the top of my head, but in the composite, these easy flowing aspects turn into Sun opposite Neptune and Mercury opposite Neptune. We also have Neptune square Asc (Pisces) in composite. Only good thing I remember is we have Saturn sextile Neptune in composite.

I'm asking this because we both have a very strong intuitive connection, right from the start. Plus the fact that we have a Pisces Asc would make Neptune even stronger right?

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posted January 03, 2005 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This could be totally wrong, but a way I would look at it is, you have less problems as friends, but when the relationship gets really serious, there may be a pulling back, or sense of not understanding what the other person is trying to say. Sort of like being deeper in the relationship muddy's it up more. Do you notice if you take a lighter approach that it's better?

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moonstar77
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posted January 03, 2005 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes, I do feel like he pulls back a bit when I want to make it serious, but then I've noticed I've had my moments where I want to keep it light as well when he tries to be serious. But then other times, we're both on the same page and connect to the seriousness. I don't think either of us has ever made a big deal about it though. It's been an understanding that we just can't deal with that particular situation at that moment, but later we will. I don't know if Neptune plays into that or not.

Natally, my natal Neptune is in his 1st house and his natal Neptune is in my 7th house. So we have them on the angles. So I'm seeing thinking this is important too right?

Funny thing is that except for those neptune composite aspects, I can't really complain about our composite Sun: Sun conjunct Mercury, Sun trine Saturn, Sun trine Mars, Sun inconjunct Uranus, Sun sextile Pluto, Sun in the 4th.

Composite Neptune seems to be one of the few planets poorly aspected. Our composite Moon is also. Moon square Pluto and Moon square Saturn. He has these two aspects natally, while I have a natal Moon square Pluto aspect. We have Moon trine Asc, which I think will perhaps help out? The other planets are either conjunct, sextile, or trining everything else for the most part....so I don't know.

I've heard a lot about Saturn being important, but it seems to be doing ok in our case...there aren't any squares or oppositions in the composite. That's why I'm wondering how important is Neptune in the composite chart? Is it another determining make-or-break factor?

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posted January 03, 2005 09:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooooh AJ that's an interesting take you have on it. Because I have a situation where my Synastry with Mr. S. is overall nice and easy, whereas the Composite Chart is downright horrific with two nasty T-Squares. And it is true that when we were just friends everything was fine, but when feelings and emotions came into play, then the relationship waters got muddied up big time.

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posted January 03, 2005 09:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ack moonstar77...I didn't mean to ignore your query. lol

Actually all of the planets are important in a Synastry and Composite Chart, just as they are in a Natal chart. I know some astrologers like to poo-poo Neptune and the rest of the outer planets just because they are so slow and tend to represent generations. But I feel the full effects of the outer planets every bit as much as I have from the inner ones. And in my Synastry and Composites with others, the outer planets have factored in VERY big.


And as Neptune is the chart ruler of the Pisces Ascendant in your Composite, that would make it the most important planet of the whole chart.

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posted January 04, 2005 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep in mind that there are two things that make up a synasty chart, the house locations and aspects of each partner's planets.

While the aspects of those born close in time to each other may be the same (keep in mind also that synasty aspect arcs are +/- 1 degree) the house locations may vary widely.

The arrangement of one partnerís Neptune in the other partnerís house indicates the area of life where the Neptune partner can influence the other through psychic, intuitive abilities, imagination, artistic tastes, and subconscious motivations. Harmonious placement indicates intuitive rapport and emotional empathy. Indicates the type of shared values that the pair have in common.

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posted January 04, 2005 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonstar77 -

With those Pluto aspects, watch for manipulation, or one feeling overpowered by the other. If that happens, there will be resentment and unfulfillment, the worst of which will be a lack of FRIENDSHIP and a lack of a free-flowing of ideas and communication. You have to be able to express the bad as well as the good in order to work things out together.

As for Neptune, from what I've observed so far, it can determine a soul union and make you feel like you've known each other forever. But at it's worst, can give you rose-colored glasses which keeps you two from seeing what's really before you.

Like, if you've ever known a couple who bickers constantly, but they are somehow happy together - it's Neptune saying, "but you're so happy together" ...

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posted January 04, 2005 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree completely, AJ

...And should there ever be Neptune square Venus in the synastry with someone, then all I can say is: watch out!

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sunsetgirl
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posted November 08, 2009 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunsetgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about person A's Venus quincunx person B's Neptune with person's B's Sun trined by person A's Neptune? That wouldn't be as bad, would it?

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posted November 08, 2009 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sunsetgirl, just taking these 2 aspects into account..

- person A's Venus quincunx person B's Neptune - A's loving nature and way of expressing affection might be completely different from what B ever expected as the ideal way of expressing affection (think about how quincunx signs has almost nothing in common lol). But alhtough the natures are so different, this isn't necessarily bad.

- person's B's Sun trined by person A's Neptune - B's identity and way of being fits in A's ideal quite well. This can lead to idealization, although it's more positive and can lead to affinity.

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