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Topic: Scorpio preteen, at odds with Leo mom!
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Sepia
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posted January 12, 2005 11:32 AM
 
My 11yr old, born Oct 29th, is constantly at odds with me. She doesn't seem to respect me or trust my judgement. If I unleash my Leo fire upon her, she'll hateand fear me...I suspect. She's expressed feelings of feeling out of place, but her brother, on year older is also a Scorpio born on the 24th. He feels like he belongs and does not contend with me near as much...Any insight??(maybe I should have posted under a more specified topic???)IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl
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posted January 12, 2005 11:40 AM
Do you know what your kids moons and other placements are? I think in such close, familial relations, looking at your moons and family dynamic would be more insightful.If you don't know, you can find out their moons through astro.com Also, Linda's Sun Signs has great chapters about kids... I remember stumbling across a site that had transcribed her entire book once... If I find it I'll post it, but if you have it and the Scorpio chapter gives you no relief, reading the chapter for you daughters moon sign should help more... IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl
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posted January 12, 2005 11:43 AM
BINGO! Here it is!Linda's Sun Suns Online - http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/contents.htm Understanding Your Scorpio Child - http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/scorpio.htm#_Toc6672027 Good luck!  IP: Logged |
Sun_Scorpion
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posted January 12, 2005 11:53 AM
Hey sepia! 
Im a Scorp and my mums a Taurus, so we're both fixed signs like you two, and that can be hard to deal with.
I remember when I went thru a very hard teenage period, about 12 or 13, and I was constantly arguing with my mum, shouting, fights and I didnt respect or trust her at all, and she didnt me. It was really hard, but eventually I matured and could talk to her about what was annoying me ect.
Its a hard phaze to go thru, maybe thats what your daughters feeling? Has she said anything specific that she dosnt agree with you? Whats the rest of her chart like? (Planets in signs and houses.)
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pixelpixie
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posted January 12, 2005 12:41 PM
Maybe I can give a different perspective, although all the lovelies here have given great advice.I remember, as a Scorpio preteen, how hard it was for me to fit all my not-so-little-girl- ideas and growing body, and integrate them into new perspectives. You learn things about yourself, about the world, a lot of challenges, and just when you think you have it figured out, you learn something new. It usually comes with some shame, and some embarrassment and it frankly sucks. Between school, parents, friends ( who are the world) there are so many pressures.
Being a Scorpio, she will intuitively know a lot of things, but not be able to express them. She was power in spades, and is still learning where to place it and manifest it. She will most likely place it wrongly for a while, but trust her, and as long as you assure her she is loved, even when she is frustrated or 'hating' you for a moment, You will come out of this stage okay.
Givce her some (limited) freedoms..... trust her. Guide her and show her, but you won't be able to make her... unless it's a fight you are after, in which neither of you back down. * The dance of the fixed signs *
Astrologically or not, Boys and Girls react differently. Call it hormones? Who knows.. but I had a much harder time than my brother did.
Good luck, and keep us astrologically informed as well.... we can help there....
Do you have the rest of her chart????? Your own? IP: Logged |
miss_apples
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posted January 12, 2005 01:14 PM
Im a Leo who has a 5 year old scorpio daughter, and I think she is already having these "out of place" feelings. I think its hard for her because her little brother who is a Taurus is very demanding and she probably feels like he gets most of the attention even though I try to make it not be that way. So I feel ya, as a Leo mom with 2 fixed kids myself IP: Logged |
Lauren Leigh
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posted January 12, 2005 07:14 PM
Interesting topic, strange though, as I was thinking about what it would be like to have a Scorpio child the other day. I'm also a Leo I hope your problems with your daughter improve soon Sepia. A strong mother and daughter relationship is a wonderful thing to have. Best of luck! IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted January 12, 2005 10:51 PM
All I know is, for someone who has strong Scorpio influences in her Chart, what they say about Scorpio girls and their mothers is true, and maybe other Scorpio's can chime in. It's said Scorpio girls either grow to completely ADORE their mother, or, well - you can imagine the extremes of Scorpio feelings.Whatever you do, even if it feels like you are kowtowing to her, WHATEVER YOU DO, be the mom she wants to adore. IP: Logged |
ScotScorp
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posted January 13, 2005 08:32 AM
My Virgo mom and I were at odds alot.  Growing up, she openly favored my middle Virgo brother over me and my Aquarius brother. I can't say how she would have better dealt with me because I lived with my Dad from pre-teen years on, but we really didn't have much of a relation. Better as adults though... because we were friends and that's it. My Cappy Aunt has been the strongest female influence in my life and she let me learn from my mistakes, and gave advice when asked. That might be the key... because Scorpio children "get it" at such a young age... I always felt like a adult trapped in a child's body. Use really good logic behind reasons for punishiment... stuff that she can't argue with you about. Toning down any dramatic fighting would probably be good. Knowing the Leo & Scorpio in me... I would not be happy if a Leo mom dramatically fought with me. The Scorpio in me would say this is NOT a show... ya know what I mean? Angela
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thirteen
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posted January 13, 2005 08:46 AM
I have a scorpio step daughter age 11. Wow, she is something. What everyone says is true I see all of this in her. Her aries dad and her are at odds but she and I are friends. She is a know it all. I have learned to just let her know it all. Who am I to argue. Someday she'll get better. Her dad argues and thats where the problems begin. I have found with her that she really can handle a lot of truth. As long as i protect her innocense I tell her whatever the truth is and she seems to respect me for it. Even the kissing and stuff on TV. I try to give her an honest perspective about all of that stuff without giving her more information than she can assimilate at such a young age.IP: Logged |
maya-v
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posted January 13, 2005 09:09 AM
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Scorpio are so passionate and so in tune with their environment. I think they are more aware than most of their peers because they have a heightened sensitivity and a better sense of justice which, combined with their passion for the truth and life, makes them little adults from the moment they are born! Seriously, I have never seen a Scorp acting silly and even the Scorp comedians are very reserved when it comes to jokes abt things that are important to them!IP: Logged |
sweetlibra
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posted January 13, 2005 10:05 AM
Hi Sepia,
A Libra here with mars,venus & uranus in scorpio.
I did have a hard time with my Leo mom in my early years.
My mother could have wrote the same
"She doesn't seem to respect me or trust my judgement"
What you said is right AJ
I wanted to ADORE my mother and she had a hard time figuring me out..!
Now also i dont trust her judgement but i do ADORE her IP: Logged |
key
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posted January 13, 2005 01:42 PM
I am an Aries sun/moon/mars mother with a Scorpio sun/rising son. Really really qtough combination of personalities - we are both controlling and feel "we know it all". Now that my son is no longer living in our home, I can look back on his childhood years and offer the following suggestions/improvements: 1. Don't even react or try to control the behavior of a heavily Scorpio charted individual.
2. Let the Scorpio individual make mistakes and pay the penalities.
3. My son also said "I feel like I am different from the other family members - that I don't belong". Just keep loving the Scorpio child - the way he or she is - right now, even with all of the characteristics that drive you nuts.
4. Keep telling yourself that you cannot "create" - only God "creates". Your child is a child of the universe, and you do not own your child. He/she might be nothing like you!! Lots of genetic material went into the creation of your child. You had nothing to do with that selection of genetic material. Just love and accept your child. If I sound like I have been through it, I have! But I learned along the way of raising a Scorpio, and have become a stronger and better human being. Now that my child is in his twenties, he says: "I will never get married and never have a child. I don't want to go through what you did - in raising me." My comment:
"You are the best thing to ever happen to me. I don't remember anything but the good, and the way you are today." Amazing thing about Scorpios. They can get through hell and back again. They come out of it compassionate, loving, and helpful to others. Yes, wouldn't change having a Scorpio son. I am in awe of him and his power to re-structure his life. Key
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astro junkie
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posted January 13, 2005 01:55 PM
I LOVE that you told him he was the best thing to happen to you. Way better than a mom who tells you she's failed as a mother while looking right at you.
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Lauren Leigh
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posted January 13, 2005 09:12 PM
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Your child is a child of the universe, and you do not own your child. He/she might be nothing like you!! Lots of genetic material went into the creation of your child. You had nothing to do with that selection of genetic material. Just love and accept your child.
Very true Key, great message. All parents should try to remember that.
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