posted February 01, 2005 08:26 PM              

Thanks so much for your reply as it helps me to understand my friend so much better!

Sometimes, he withdraws, for no apparent reason, and separates himself - which I never understood... I get his Aquarian aloofness, but the emotional protective wall confuses me alot.

He either looks directly into my eyes, or like you say sometimes looks deeply at me, then glances away quickly.

When he's nice, he's sooo nice, but then he withdraws and I have all kinds of doubts about whether he likes me or not?? I really can't tell, but like being his friend anyways.

But sometimes he will show his real and carefree side to me - which I sense he doesn't do so often? (guarded Cappie Venus, and protective Pisces Moon)

Thanks so much again Viper for your insights!

-B.

posted February 02, 2005 12:18 PM              

I have read that when a Pisces is interested, yes, they become more shy...
Also...that when they are beoming more serious about you, a routine develops...ex. calling the same time each day etc...that's when you know they are taking you more serious..is this true?

Also, is it true they like to reassured a lot? (Like never enough?)

And one last thing...somewhere I read that secretly, they like to be pursued...that way they lessen that chances of rejection because they can be more sure of you liking them. True or not?

posted February 03, 2005 07:21 PM              

Hope all is well with you, thanks for thinking of me.

I also have to add regarding pices moon that they do need a safe haven. I'm not sure I feel like I hav eone right now, I do tend to get along better with Librans and Scorpios and other Leo Sun's (I'm a leo sun).

I can be pretty psychic at times too, my best friend from high school swears I'm a "witch". LOL

posted February 04, 2005 12:32 AM              

I am leo sun with a pisces moon too! I too attract scorps and tons o' libras.

What are you other placements? Do you feel more your sun sign or moon- cause everytime i read stuff about leo sun i think that is totally not me. but my moon has very few aspects so maybe that is it but just curious if anyone out there is feeling more their moon?

posted February 04, 2005 12:50 AM              

quote:

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Pisces Moon

One of the most distinguishing properties of all things Pisces is the ability to withstand confinement and restricting circumstances, monotony and long periods of waiting.

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posted February 04, 2005 03:57 AM              

Glad to hear I could offer some insight!

I tend to withdraw sometimes too, usually when feeling a little un-loved or out of sync - though sometimes there's no apparent reason for this?

I like GemStar's comments on routine - had never considered that before? In some ways, perhaps we do, though I sometimes feel I am blending into my partners routine rather than creating my own?? so in some ways it could be an indication that we are trying to please them? very piscean.

As for being reasurred - WOW - you certainly have done your homework here GemStar - yes, can never get enough of it. I, maybe a lot of pisces moons, need to feel (believe) I am wanted and the only way for that, no matter how much physical attention I get, is through being told, so yes I know it sounds strange but almost every day. To compensate for this, I usually tend to leave little notes etc around the house for my partner to find - like in the fridge, in the tea caddy, stuff like that - I think that's in a way, a reflection of the way I would like them to be with me, so yes your spot on with that one.

And yes, your right again, they do like to be pursued! it goes with the shyness we secretly harbour - so if someone shows an intrest in us, it builds our confidences a lot more and gives us the chance to come out from ourselves - I do pursue now and again, but am never truly happy when doing it and really fear the rejection thing, so often than not would rather not try than risk being rejected.

As for the verbal thing, I can only really speak for myself, but yes - I am verbal with that, I think a lot of Pisceans are - it's in their nature, though In my case, I try to hide the way I say it at first, like saying, 'you know, I'm really starting to fall in love with you' I think it's a safety net type thing for me - if it's not reciprocated, then I haven't opened myself up too much!!

GingerB's note is also good - I've read and heard many times about this confinement thing - yes I can cope with it, but it's not something I really like, it's more of a forced exile type thing, for me.

posted February 04, 2005 06:43 AM              

The reassurance thing always surprises me...and yes, every day can never be enough!! What exactly do (besides 'being wanted') you like to be reassured about?
And is it 'wanted'-sexually? in general? just liked? Please share more...thanks!

posted February 04, 2005 08:01 AM              

I think it's wanted in an overall sense. A sort of inner desire to feel as if someone else feels as much for me, as I them?

Were very changeable, us piscean moons, so any time we suddenly start to feel unwanted drags us down and all you may want is for you loved one to re-assure you that you are still a wonderful being??

Sexually?? well I guess it's nice to think your partner does actually want you in that sense??? Ha Ha LOL.

posted February 04, 2005 08:21 AM              

I also feel that piscean moons like to be acknowledged as being 'special'...all people like that I think but piscean moons especially like to hear the word 'special'....do you agree?

posted February 04, 2005 08:51 AM              

Special - Ha ha, We all like to think were special I suppose. And we must surely all like to be told so by an object of our desires? It's funny, yes I would like to here that but I can't say I have really thought about it before. the funny thing is, It's what i say to my partner!!! perhaps it's another self reflection thing? but I do tell her quite a lot, not just when very intimate, that she's 'A bit special eh!' it's my sort of way of telling her I think she is simply perfect and could quite possibly marry her - without scaring her off by saying it exactly!

If I find out I've hurt someone - it usually is unintentional - but never the less, it sort of shocks me and upsets me at the same time. Then I usually run straight in and try to rectify things. Say sorry lots and lots and try to give an explanation of the events, in order to justify it was unintentional.
I think I am like this because I know if something happened toward me, I would like it sorted straight away instead of leaving it a couple of days to mull over. This maybe an indication that time apart or not communicating would be bad for my moon? It would feel like a rejection, not being wanted. Does that make sense?

posted February 04, 2005 09:24 AM              

My moon is in Cancer and Scorp is my rising. I feel like I understand the emotions of my pisces moon friends because I too am emotional...also very intuitive-which is something I rely on HEAVILY. My gut never/rarely leads me wrong.

The insecurity that comes with the pisces moon people is so often hidden...it is hard to uncover because you pretend to be one way but are actually feeling another way inside! (Hiding the true fears and huge emotions). My emotions are out there for all to see...I cannot hide them no matter how I try.

posted February 04, 2005 09:30 AM              

I was born 3/3/65 (61.14 W 13.09 N)

posted February 04, 2005 10:28 AM              

GemStar, you seem to know more than you credit yourself with yeah I get insecure, but as you say most of the time I try to hide it and usually, it's hidden from everyone. Only very very close friends would ever know.

You seem to have hit the mark in terms of the emotions and hiding them, yes that's all very real to myself and I would have thought a lot of other pisces moons. A lot of the time, I will play stuff down, a kind of 'who cares' attitude, when in reality I'm totally freaking about whatever it is.

If hurt, emotionally, my responses would depend very much on how well I know the person and the type of relationship between us. Even if it was a very close personal relationship, I would not simply give out all my emotions or even let them see me in a vaunerable position unless it was a very very important relationship. So yes, they would be hidden.

posted February 04, 2005 11:17 AM              

It is interesting regarding your thoughts on showing your vulnerability to others...do you feel that you are more vulnerable than most people? (And yes, will hide that fact particularly well!??!)

When my piscean friend gathers the courage to open and share more of himself..ie-making himself vulnerable...it almost feels to me that he suddenly realizes he has opened up (which he rarely does to anyone) and then quickly scurries away!! (only for a short bit-and then acts as if nother ever was said!!)

I sorta feel like he is fearful of my reaction or maybe thinking I will love him less because he has opened up? I am not sure if I am making sense about this...I just get the feeling that even when you piscean moons do open your vulnerability, you want to run away because you feel exposed. That's the impression I feel anyway...what do you think?

AND-thank you so very much for such insight...I have worked hard at studying the piscean moon people because I love one so much that I truly want to understand him to the fullest. (He does not know how much I am into astrology so I keep it my little secret). But the bigger fact is that astrology really helps me with my understanding in general of ways we all behave...my Cancer Moon in 9th loves this!

posted February 04, 2005 11:55 AM              

I guess in a way, I feel I'm more vunerable than most, but the moon is feminine as is Pisces so in a way anyone with the understanding will know that this placement for a male, is knda out of synch with the general concepts of the masculine characteristics and maybe this is partly why we hide our really deep feelings as best we can. I would guess it must be a little easier for a female to express such things as it wouldn't be considered out of the 'norm' in that sense, but they sure must run deep too.

I don't know if we run away once we've opened up. Maybe just test the waters, as it were. If we get a negative response, we don't go any deeper into the subject - depends how close that person is I suppose. And of course we yearn to be understood, which nine times out of ten, we haven't been for many years so a sort of wall has been built over those years regards giving too much away, too soon. A sort of self protection thing, maybe.

Yeah, the exposed thing is quite true. And as you will know, we can tell how the other person feels virtually straight away, once we have opened up. If they appear to give off a certain vibe, we will know straight away and decide right then just how far to go or to stop and pull back.

I know what your saying about understanding people better, very much the same for me.

posted February 04, 2005 01:06 PM              

Yes, when I first became friends with my dear Pisces Moon man, the wall was evident right off the bat. However, I connected in such a way with him that I could see right through the hidden door within that wall. At first I was fearful because I knew that not many people had ventured beyond that high wall...and I felt the need to make an effort to over-look his wall (of what appeared as self-protection) and march on.

It certainly has taken a lot of time for him to open up...I think I can understand about the fact of not many people understanding a pisces moon person...that wall can be intimidating! Certainly a good 'front'!

He just eats it up when I tell him I UNDERSTAND him...which I feel like I do most of the time...

I also wanted to comment on the 'who cares' attitude you sometimes may have. THAT one is very hard to read...because the freaking out part does not show, I often wonder what is really going on inside...I forget which aspect my friend has that makes expressing his emotions difficult but I tell you...it is a tough one when someone pretends nothing fazes him...that old 'it is what it is' attitude but without really showing how it affects him emotionally. That is confusing to me.

I often wonder if the Pisces moons do appreciate the effort it takes for the rest of us to break through that wall. When my friend is moved, he becomes extremely quiet...and offers nothing more. 'Just thinking' he says. But does not always share what his thoughts are...back to the vulnerable aspect I suppose...I tend to ask a lot of thinking questions (deeper ones). My Merc Cancer is always seeking the emotional ends of questions!! (Can you tell??)LOL!

Your insight is gratifying...viper!

posted February 06, 2005 01:13 PM              

Also, I'm friendly with everyone, and don't know if that makes him feel discouraged or forgotten when we're around each other? Maybe it's my imagination, but I notice that is when he withdraws a bit.

Although, I catch him looking over at me, or if I'm glancing his direction, our eyes inevitably meet. Even if just for a brief second. Much more is expressed sometimes through eye contact.

It's so hard to say. Between his emotional shyness and my shyness as well, I'm not sure if either one of us will ever make a move!!

But, alot of what's been written here has been so helpful, I'll keep it in mind.

Thanks so much again!

posted February 08, 2005 03:50 AM              

That's a really true comment, about feeling a little left out or discouraged when your all out and around other people etc.

I tend to do the same. But I would reckon by this he must like you - The reason I say this is because if we are out with a group and my partner seems to be more intrested in the others, I become a little discouraged. It's not a jelousey thig, it's more af a feeling that I want to feel far closer with my partner than the rest of my friends - after all we are meant to be intimate - therefore I guess I like to think we are just that little bit closer with one another than all the rest - so perhaps he really does like you?? maybe it's time to give him a boost and let him know?

posted February 08, 2005 07:31 PM              

Your description of the situation is perfect... that's exactly how he acts...
I know what you mean, I didn't think he was feeling jealoused, but could never figure on my own why he appeared bummed... Thank you for your perceptiveness...

I must have missed the obvious.

Anyways, we're now assigned to different places and I won't see him as much. When we last hugged goodbye, it was sweet. Pisces Moons are very dreamy I've learned.

Thanks for your help. Viper - you rock!!

B.

posted February 09, 2005 11:38 AM              

Actually, i have not been forgetting this Pisces guy (so called ex b/f) also having Pisces Moon 7 years ago. At that time, I really dunno how to handle his fluctuated emotions and frankly, I dun understand him at all. We dun have much happy memories, but all i can say is that, the first time I saw him, i know he is the ONE (not too sure if anyone of you do believe in me or not, even though I have Sun in Taurus but having my AC in Pisces as well).........

posted February 10, 2005 11:16 AM              

i do like your comments on not being able to forget them that easily.

I must say, In a sense I have noticed that over the years with my past relationships.

I can bump into someone I may not have seen in years, but they still tell me how they always remembered me (in the emotional sense)

Maybe it really has got something to do with the Pisces moon? - being so deep and mysterious as it were. Perhaps it does leave it's mark on their partners, even years down the road.

I like that thought