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LeoSweetHeart
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posted January 31, 2005 05:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to test a theory of mine. I think if your fire or air and are naturally inclined to be social, but your asc and/or venus makes it hard...you will feel painfully shy.

But if you are a water or earth sign with a reinforcing water or earth asc and are also less inclined to be social, are you more okay with being "shy"..maybe you even call it being introverted or reserved. But you don't find it to be hindering to your true nature.

Can anyone comment on this? Or does anyone have it the other way around? Are you a Scorpio with a Leo asc and you attract to many people for comfort? Though isn't that you Pixie? You do seem to get along fine with that fire asc..is that the case? I'm really interested in hearing what everyone has to say! So far my theory seems to be correct.

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pixelpixie
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posted January 31, 2005 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.
being unhappy about your shy state.. feeling like "if only I could...."
as opposed to
" I am shy, coy and reserved, and I like it that way......"

As far as working the opposite, and using me as an example.. do I attract people?
Yes.
Am I extroverted?
Yes.
But I have my quiet moments. Sometimes it's really quiet when I unabashedly say something without censoring it internally first ... those are the times a small part of me cringes, wishing I were naturally shy and reserved.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted January 31, 2005 06:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air and fire signs are generally more extroverted, I agree.

Another theory relating to this is that more reserved people will often have most of their planets on the lower hemisphere of their chart (which all of mine are with the exception of Jupiter.) It works the other way around as well. Has anyone heard of this theory, and do you think it is true?

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Winged_Feet
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posted January 31, 2005 06:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree Dorkus.


I also think the house of the asc/sun affects personality as well. Like a 1st house sun vs a 12th house sun.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted January 31, 2005 07:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 1st house sun, although I am rather shy.

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zoso
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posted January 31, 2005 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a sag with a cap asc and scorp venus, sun in 12th.

I'm very reserved for quite a while before I warm up to people, especially groups of people. but eventually, I do warm up.

Sometimes it's hard to have a dual nature like that, but it also serves as a balance and an added ability to attract and understand differents types of people.

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astro junkie
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posted January 31, 2005 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK - that's interesting - I agree it's important. The Air & Fire qualities do not like to be extinguished or repressed in any way. Not so with Water & Earth.

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Arnicka
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posted January 31, 2005 07:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo Rising (no 1st or 12th house planets), Pisces Sun in the 8th.

I agree with a certain "disconnect" regarding what one might put across and what one truly feels that they are @ the "core." I find it difficult at times to feel centered, it's sometimes a bit more difficult to get a hold of things.

And yes, Ive read the lower hemisphere emphasis regarding personality type and have understood it to be associated with having a "subjective" reality. I read that as being more concerned with your inner state as opposed to one who has an upper hemisphere emphasis and apparently a more "objective" reality. Of course aspects and planets on angles and signs, houses (blah blah) do modify. But it *can* be used as a very general guide.

Akin to reading body language maybe? You can look @ someone who has their arms crossed: do they feel violated (or as if theyre being intruded upon) or are they just plain cold? Can be read either way or any other ways but it's always a form of defense.

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geminstone
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posted January 31, 2005 10:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LeoSweetHeart,
I would fit that theory. I have, always, had issues with being very introverted,... not anti-social, just more of an ' observer '. I, also, open up when I reach a comfort point, though, that can take a while. I was always pegged a ' b*tch ', because I was basically, a mute. Most people don't like having to figure someone out( not that they need to ), I think it leaves some to feel wierd or, something. To which, it is easier to throw up the red flags. I hope that was understandable...? Anyway, the comfort point, once reached,... well, sometimes leaves my friends searching for the ' off ' button! I am a Gemi Sun!! I have a 4th House, Pisces Moon and Scorpio Rising. Merc(retro) and, Venus are both in Taurus/7th... This is a great topic!

~ geminstone

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ScotScorp
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posted February 01, 2005 12:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Scorpio sun with Leo moon, and like I've said a few times around here, I definately draw too many people to me for my own comfort. Always nice when my personal Sundays roll around and I can recharge alone at home without interruption!

I have a great close friend that is Cancer/Cancer/Pisces and most people shrug her off as shy. I remember when I first met her... she didn't even say hi to me... just waved at me. It was one of those "had to take a crowbar to her mouth to get her to say more than one word" kinda situations. Now? Can't stop her from talkin' to me. Where's the duct-tape? I actually envy her in a way... because she unintentionally puts off this "shy" vibe and she enjoys the wall-flower thing because she learns so much more from listening, but then of course these talkers don't ask her opinion or don't look for her to respond, so she's just a good pair of ears in the end. She wishes she was more friendly and open like me, and I wish I could be the wall-flower more often. *sigh*

Angela

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Scorpio/Leo/Leo

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delerious
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posted February 01, 2005 12:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Aries sun (conjunct venus), Leo moon, but my Cancer rising makes me feel painfully shy especially around crowds or people I don't know cause it goes against my nature.

Once I feel comfortable and get to know people, the fire takes over and I'm very outgoing. My rising isn't aspected to my sun so sometimes I feel like the 2 influences act independently, I never know what's going to come out. Can be dismaying sometimes, like when I'm looking forward to some social event and decides to crawl into its shell!!!

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LeoSweetHeart
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posted February 01, 2005 01:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow great responses so far It seems a lot of you feel the same way!

I am "shy" Leo. I also have to reach a certain comfort level before I express all my Leonine traits, but when I finally get to, I feel soooo much more like myself and I'm much happier. Hey zoso that was a good point about balancing and understanding a variety of people. I do think I can get along with and understand a lot of different types. Thanks for showing me a positive angle

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Archer
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posted February 01, 2005 03:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey
i'm sun & moon scorpio and leo asc in indian astro.
so what where u asking?

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26taurus
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posted February 01, 2005 03:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty even in elements all over the board. But I have mostly earth then fire. I'm an introvert by nature.

Earth sun, moon and rising. Sun and Moon in earth but placed in natural water houses.

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LeoSweetHeart
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posted February 01, 2005 04:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer , I was asking how your asc or venus affects your inner nature/ Sun sign (and maybe moon too). So if your asc is Leo, you might draw too much attention from people than your Scorpio Sun and Moon are comfortable with. Like if your nature is being an introvert, how does that extroverted asc make you feel about the way you come off to people? Are you being yourself or would you prefer to give off a more reserved facade to match your inner self? Which do you prefer Indian or western astrology? because being a Sag in one and Scorp in the other is way different...which one do you relate to most?


26taurus, hey hun So I've heard you refer to yourself as quiet and introverted in public. Is that right? If so, would you call yourself shy? or just reserved and an observer maybe? It doesn't seem that your being a quieter person seems to bother you. Haha but then again, we don't know that side very well Maybe that fire gives you more energy to meet the world and helps to balance out the shyer tendencies. But from what I know of you, I would say your more the type to refer to your quietness as introverted than painfully shy, right?

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26taurus
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posted February 01, 2005 04:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Leo! Well, I've grown out of the painfully shy thing over the years, for the most part. But it still shows up to haunt me sometimes. I was that little kid who hid behind mommy's skirt, clinging on and hiding my face when someone said hi to me. LOL! I was sooooo shy. I still am shy/quiet around people - mostly ones I dont know though. You wouldnt know it by my personality on this website though, would ya?

It takes me a while to open up to people. I blame that on my Virgo Moon. I can be a nervous Nelly alot of the time. And the Taurus in me likes familiarity. Then there's Cap rising who comes off as serious, aloof and quiet. That's how alot of people see me who dont know me well. But put me around good friends, people I love and know, like in a party setting or something and I can be the center of attention (Leo/Mars) making everyone laugh (Gemini/Venus/5th house).

But overall I'm cool, calm and collected. And quiet. Yes, still an introvert although of course not all of the time.

Hope life's been treating you well.

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SparklingSag
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posted February 01, 2005 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey,
As a Sag sun, Capp Asc, I will at least appear slightly reserved at first and then they get to know my leo moon and Sag sun!!

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neptune's mermaid
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posted February 01, 2005 06:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LeoSweetHeart,

Lets see...I have a Pisces Sun, Virgo Moon and Aries Rising. My chart is dominated by Fire and Air signs ( save my Sun, Moon and Saturn ). Um...but I guess I'm kind of detached, maybe due to my Venus and Mars in the 12th House. But also I have Mercury in the 11th House - my chart is kind of confusing.

As a child I was pretty extravagant and loud, VERY extroverted - now I'm a lot more reserved. I think it's cause I finally matured. That or because while growing up I suffered a lot from getting my foot stuck in my mouth, it forced me to be quiet lol. I think that may be due to the 3 Sags in my chart.

.......what was the question? LOL j/k

Overall I agree with you, I think most Feminin signs are reserved - but then you have to look at the whole chart. There will always be execptions. For example my little sister. She's a Leo Sun, Gemini rising and Gemini Moon. Around strangers she hides behind our mum and she's got to be the shyest child in her class. But around familiar people she's can't stay quiet lol. I think her shyness may be due to her Sun in the 4th House - not sure

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teaselbaby
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posted February 01, 2005 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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HoT IcE
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posted February 01, 2005 10:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to be so painfully shy to strangers,and I still am at times. I've got a gemini sun,cancer moon,mars,mercury and all of the above in the eighth house.my asc is in scorp and saturn conjuncts it....it really is hard.....wonder why i get soo tight lipped?But once people get to know me they just can't shut me up and I also speak real fast so when I speak most people dont understand...they've gotto get used to the way I speak......anyway this is using the western style system....

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