posted February 23, 2005 02:44 AM            

I will be more open now than I have ever been...because I have never been in this position before...

For those of you that know me from here, I am pretty darn conservative..not much into just playing around..ya'll know it..

Anyway, my Taurus has had WAY..and I mean WAY more experience than me..... It is that tactile..pleasure seeking, sensual side that Taurans love...especially when they are young..and yet, they feel NO guilt.. (LOL..okay..maybe I feel more than the average person with my Saturn in Taurus in the 8th house).

At any rate...he has been there and done that..he loves my naive ways...but there is this darker side of me...maybe it is that whole Pluto in the 1st..I am not sure...maybe it is being a Sag...we Archers will try so many things...

So why do you Bulls push? I see the excitement..so I try to play along..to a poing, then that whole thing kicks in...but not before I TRY....maybe I like it maybe I don't but WHY do you bring us to that point? Do you want us to hurt you? DO you want to see how far we will go....do you not understand that we only want you?

I am talking to ALL Bulls that are with FIRE or AIR signs..especially those with Gemini's and Saggies...

Also..how many times must you tell us about ALL your damn experiences? Do you know realize that Archers and Geminis DO get jealous...we think we are competing with ghosts..only to realize later that you are just making sure you are worthy of us...that you are JUST trying to telling us that you are wanted...

GOD..know this...we know you are wanted..why else would you have caught our eyes? Do you really need to drag us through all your experiences so that we might feel we are less that what you want? Do you really want that wall to build up? IF you really want us...stop it... stop trying to challenge us...

I have found that to be the case with my Taurus. He HATES my ex-husband..more because we are still friends. He humiliates me ever chance he gets by telling others that I was married to a gay man. My Ex is NOT gay..he was just one of those Virgo Sun / Gemini men that was more inside his head than he was about SEX.

He appealed to a different part of me..yet Mr. Taurus keeps bringing it out..to the point where I broke down and wondered " DID I MAKE A MISTAKE? SHOULD I BE BACK WITH THE VIRGO?"...Now I know that I don't want to be..but when you BULLS keep throwing our ex's in front of our faces..we wonder...did we make a mistake..we must have if you keep bringing it up....

Hopefully I nipped it in the bud...but please..some Taurus..explain the need for this? What do WE Fire signs need to do to show you that YOU are the one?

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"Lahn dádzaayú nahikai leh ni' nyelíí k'ehge," Goyathlay (Geronimo)

"Once we moved like the Wind"

posted February 23, 2005 05:48 AM              

Dear Pidaua

I can understand your post..and situation...and how do you feel about it.

I am not Taurus...I am a Scorpio. I also TEST people...reason it's very simple...a person like me is seeking a REASSURANCE...When we hear so many things about two-timing and extra marital affairs.It's difficult for people to trust each other.

Maybe when taurean is talking of his
expereinces ,I just guess that they weren't that pleasant and so he wants to be more careful with what decisions he makes now."Once bitten twice shy" or something.

If I were you the best solution from my side
would be be telling him how much I love him and assure him.

As we know Bull is always possessive and Sags are so out going.I know a Sag person like you wouldn't like to be possessed but I think he would need reassurance from you for atleast sometime and after that he would start trusting you fully.

Try to understand his point of view...and make him understand what you are thinking also.

Ijust had this kind of conversation with person whom I am seeing right now and he did the same thing when I was testing him...He reassured me in a best manner and I was very happy with it.

Anyways GOOD LUCK

GAL

posted February 23, 2005 09:24 AM            

I think you need to talk to your man and explain to him how much it hurts you to hear about his experiences over and over again.
Just tell him how you feel. Tell him it is not appropriate to involve your exes in a conversation; it's actually quite rude to bring up your past lives in front of other people.

If a talk doesn't do it, you can always bring up that your Leo ex still calls you.

posted February 23, 2005 09:42 AM              

Like Yin, I'm not a Taurus . . . and I'm not a Sag either! But I can't stand here seeing another Fire Sister in distress like this. Ahh!!!! And, I've not had a fiancee yet to boot. May be this is just going to be a useless post. I dunno.

posted February 23, 2005 10:02 AM              

I dont know what to say, Pidaua ... I can feel the pain and it gives me a tinge of guilt. But if he is going through all this just to test you, it can only mean one thing - he really really loves you and is somehow insecure. Maybe its time to move to the next level of commitment and intimacy or to find different interests outside of your union but I am definite this could be a crossroads for you guys.

One more thing - we keep repeating our stories abt past love because we want to be completely honest abt ourselves and not ive you a chance to accuse us of hiding things. If you were to smile and dismiss them with an understanding attitude, I am sure it will end.

I am sure you will work things out - you are too much in love not to, just be careful you communicate well and are able to demonstrate, through words and actions - just how much you mean to each other.

posted February 23, 2005 01:17 PM            

Thank you so much for your responses.....Aphrodite...It was so good to hear from you..it seems like forever.

You all had so many insights for me..and most of it was right on.

posted February 25, 2005 11:28 AM              

Pid - it's not your imagination. When it comes to stuff like that, I think Taurus' act very much like the sideways-vacillating Cancer crab. Know what I mean? It's as if their Fixed nature does not allow them to easily pull themselves out of their own muck. I know this may sound radical, but it may be laziness on his part, although one day he'll have to realize that he's making things even more complicated.

Some Signs like to just sit back and watch the fireworks. You're such a great person, so much to love about you, and your fireworks will include many hues and tones. Hope his eyes can take it all in.

As for your "intelligence", I'm sort of scratching my head on that one. Why should someone's intelligence be intimidating unless one is being arrogant or "in your face" about it. Don't think that's you.

posted February 25, 2005 01:07 PM              

The Gemini I was with hated hearing any experiences, I was with someone when I met him and he hated hearing about it, any hint of any male friend sent him brooding in the other room, ready to talk, but I felt we could only talk through sex making it worse in his eyes as he saw that was the only way I could communicate with him, and maybe others??? I think Sags and Geminis get jealous too, but take it harder. I made it worse as I hate being touched by a man in public in an intimate way as I get scared that I will scare off men in in the future if it doesn't work out?! I know that sounds insecure and it is, and he could pick up on it right away-dont' ask me how.

But I needed to express that insecurity to feel secure in his arms, only when I had showed that once he retreated and felt wounded and hurt. Since we had relied on his security, I felt left alone and even more insecure. Men try to touch me everywhere I go, and I can't stop thinking it's like a curse because his eyes would go everywhere too. He said I had too much of a history but the truth is it's because I was with someone else and he was with someone when we met, and that was too much for our mutual insecurities.

If I tell a Sag I have dumped other men to be with him he's excited, but if he sees other men in the picture he brings up other women, I think Sags do this to keep their cool but its a confusing mental game to the Taurus. We may have the physical edge but that's because we know it's a tease, most don't take us up on it.

In fact, we exaggerate our experience oh so much, I haven't been with that many b/f's but there have been encounters where I tested and fooled around. I don't see why anyone would be jealous of that, but he may throw that around as more genuine love experience to make you feel better about his potency.

When I can't have sex and don't feel sexy to my mate I literally feel like I'm going to die, imagine how it felt when the Gemini told me to get out because he wanted to explore another right now? I know he was lying to my face, but the fact he could do that really hurt, I'm not up to mental games, instead I grabbed his face and looked him in the eyes and let go.

That's the Taurus way of getting mad.

Your Taurus is doubly hard because he's got the Cancer Venus which broods and is sarcastic, so I imagine he tests you verbally? Or is it sexually does he do this when you are romantic? Or is it emotional? If you see how he is testing you, try saying I feel this hurt feeling around you and I am moving away from it right now, I will be back when I feel better about being next to you.

There is no reason to stand the toxic feelings, you have to tell him, don't bring me down today....
I am feeling hurt and I am feeling bitter and down, thanks for making me feel this way but I don't understand it so I have to move away from you for a few hours.

Nothing is more sobering to a man than a woman in pain, and God knows it's hard to show it if you are strong, but those Cancer influences like to see some emotion, pain and neediness sometimes, he won't see it in him. Say you need a man, a real one to keep you safe, not hurt you.

This has to be hard for you, but you have a 4th house Sun, and 4th house suns are so much more in touch with their feelings than us 6th and 10th house Suns! Take Heart, you don't have to get a few drinks in you to spill your heart like I do.

The really hard thing is that Taurus and Gemini and Sag usually have someone physically so they do not do the mental dance tease with several men or women in their lives. You know when you hear about one that he or she is probably sleeping with that person. So it hurts. There are some people who can't be alone without intimacy every single night, and that explains why Sag and Aqua are so attractive to everyone, there is the quality of a danse that doesn't involve intimacy right away, of safety.

I wouldn't let that go on too long, and cut right to the heart of his deepest insecurities, don't tell him he's wonderful, or cool, or sexy, say there are other sexier people out there but you chose him. Tell him what's out there, that you had your pick, and it wasn't that hot and now you are fulfilled. Ask him if he's fulfilled and if he's not tell him to get real and you will support him in whatever he does, to take care of his life's work. Tell him his work isn't fulfilling him, tell him the truth, tell him all the negatives and then say what are you going to do about it? I'm here on your side.