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Secret Garden
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posted February 26, 2005 05:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why are there such major gender diffs between the same sign? I've often noticed for example, that I love Scorp men but cannot stand Scorp women. Same goes for Leos. I can't stand mutable sign men but the women are great, so far as my personal compatibility goes. Why are there so many differences?
I have two cousins who are twins--a guy and a girl, born on the same day with the same planetary and house positions, and aspects as well. They are both Cancer, I get along with the girl just fine but can't stand the guy.
Does it even make sense? Do you guys think there is a serious difference between the genders in the same sign? Why is it so? What signs have you had completely different reactions to, based on the gender of the person?
Any insight is much appreciated, in advance

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BlueRoamer
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posted February 26, 2005 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's because men are different than women..genetically, biologically, hormonally, socially...so they repond differently to astrological influences, why am I answering dumb questions today? Do you want some amazing catch-all theory to explain men and women of the same signs differences??? ALso notice that these peopel will alwasy have different charts as well, unless they are fraternal twins, and even then will have slightly different charts.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 26, 2005 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers. I think you overreacted to the question.

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Secret Garden
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posted February 26, 2005 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry about the stupid qs...
can we get a mod to delete the thread?
its better than leaving the embarrassing replies

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proxieme
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posted February 26, 2005 10:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry about it SG - BR can be a jackhole sometimes, just ask pixelp and Gemini Nymph.
He seems to like to take out the frustrations that he encounters in his life as aggression on others.
Perhaps it gives him a fleeting feeling of superiority and security, elements apparently sorely lacking from his world.
I dunno.

I was going to answer that it probably has to do with how the sexes deal with the energies inherent in the signs and elements.
It may be that it's more difficult for some males - both because of socialization and sex differences - to deal with feminine and/or mutable signs.
Then maybe some women find it difficult to deal with the aggressive and "powerful" aspects associated with other signs and placements - or it may be more difficult for others to accept them manifesting those energies.

It can't be all sexual (as in "what sex are you"), though - if nothing else, there're shelves of published books (and pages upon pages of websites) devoted to lesbian and gay astrology. Gender, sexual orientation, and how the energy in question interacts with those seem to have thier bit in the mix, too.

BR - As a preemption to whatever noxious reply you may have, I simply ask you to consider that I'm not the one who shat on someone for asking an innocent question.

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BlueRoamer
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posted February 26, 2005 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The usual banal flame. An uninsightful inference to my personal situation, citing past offences, etcetera and so forth. If you're going to flame me, at least try and be original. *yawn*

Perhaps all your insights are meaningless and I simply get irritated with stupid questions?

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 27, 2005 12:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How odd, BR. In order for someone to flame you, you most likely would have had to post "flamebait", a message posted in order to provoke an angry response.

1. proxieme didn't really seem angry in her reply, just ho-hum about your attitude.
2. you set yourself up and basically proved that you have caused the problem by referring to a reply to something you said as a flame.

HAH!

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BlueRoamer
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posted February 27, 2005 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who said I didn't cause a problem? I'm not denying being blunt and abrasive. I am just irritated by extremely mundane questions. Well it sounds like you really got to the bottom of something Sherlock, I hope your dull wit is satisfied.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 27, 2005 01:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope your abusive side is satisfied, because that's all you've been since you've been posting here tonight. Too bad you're one more douchebag on this message board making this site suck.

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BlueRoamer
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posted February 27, 2005 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice language, do you talk to your mother that way?

This site is great because of people like me, who post intelligent responses, aren't always *sunshine and rainbows,* but also because of peopel like you who tell me to shove it and defend those weaker or more sensetive.

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Aquarian Girl
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posted February 27, 2005 01:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why did this thread have to degenerate into back and forth snarkiness?

It could have been a great conversation about the differences between men and women of the same sign.

I didn't think it was a dumb question at all, Secret Garden. But BlueRoamer made sure it turned into a wasted thread, that's for sure.

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Personally, I like Aquarian males as friends, but I can't deal with them as boyfriends. I think it's because we are a fixed sign, but in my experience they get too full-on and obsessive, and I've always felt suffocated by their attentions. My Libra friend agrees!

Aries! I love Aries women, they are great. We always get along. There's an electricity in the friendship, instant recognition. But Aries men... uggghhh. They bug me. They're Ok as friends, but their attentions annoy me. They're too pushy. And that's funny, cause my DC id ruled by Aries, you'd think I'd get swept off my feet by them or something. But, looking at current and past loves charts, I definitely have a thing for men with Venus in Aries. Sun in Aries doesn't work though.

Hhmm... what else? Leo! I get along with Leo in general, I love the Lions and Lionesses, but I do notice what Linda said about opposing sun signs and the same sex... there is some tension there with Leonine women, competition... it's not as smooth as the friendship with Leo men...

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aries-chick
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posted February 27, 2005 03:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
It could have been a great conversation about the differences between men and women of the same sign.

I was gona post something along those lines, but didn't wanna get involved. Either way it CAN still be a good conv..I hope

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sorry about the stupid qs...
can we get a mod to delete the thread?

You have nothing to apologise for. I didn't think it was a stupid q, nor did a lot of other people, don't let one person's "opinion" get to you.

Anyways, I'll say something about my own sign. Mars is a very masculine planet, Aries is a masculine sign. Probably the most outwardly masculine. In girls this influence would be toned down by femininity. Whereas in guys it's OVERLY masculine and some may see it as overbearing. I don't mean all Aries guys and girls (only those people who have strong Mars, Aries in their chart) because I've met Aries guys who are hairdressers, act very feminine, and might be gay (I'd guess they'd have other more feminine, watery influences).

Personally I tend to get along very well with Capricorn girls, but not as much with the guys.

About the twins you know, Secret Garden, are you sure their asc and moon sign are the same?

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Secret Garden
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posted February 27, 2005 03:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks aqua girl, proxie, vtt, br, for all ur responses,

aqua girl i know their moon signs are the same but im not sure about rising, i can check on that, and ive noticed the same thing with cappys too
thanks all for the replies

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aries-chick
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posted February 27, 2005 04:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lols that was me not Aqua, about the moon, and the cappys .. you got confuzeled

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Aen
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posted February 27, 2005 07:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SG,

Most has already been said so I just add that you probably also view men and women in some situations quite differently.

For example I love Cancers - their creativity, sensitivity, wonderful wacky sense of humour and work ethics. I got wonderfully along with most Cancer women I've met - colleagues and friends. We understand each other, enjoy each other's company, etc. I also got wonderfully along with Cancer men. We also understand each other, enjoy each other company, etc. Howeer, they are inavariably married but want to become my lovers anyway. Since this doesn't suit me, I can't say I have any male Cancer friend. Sad really.

By the way, have you noticed how Sun sign descriptions have changed through time? I had quite a chuckle at some site (if I find the bookmark, I'll post a link) where women Sun sign descriptions were solely about whether they are charming, and what kind of wife and mother they would be. Not a word indicating they might be doing something else. Or that being wife and mother may not necessarily mean staying home and looking after the rest of family.

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posted March 01, 2005 11:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How's THIS for thinking out of the box?

(everyone - please stand and clap for my MC in Aquarius is about to take the stage ...)

Through basic astrology, we are able to map the personalities of a person's PARENTS ...

Conversely ...

Could we not also agree that our OWN perception of what a "man" or "woman" should be ALSO plays a role in coloring our reactions to others, which in turn, colors a reaction back.


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sue g
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posted March 04, 2005 07:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue Roamer, have you tried joining a debate group, or going into politics where you can thrash things out with others, or maybe even therapy (ha ha talks from experience). You just sound very angry and I think this could be put to great use - maybe acting or even singing would help. Oh yeah, out of interest, what is your sign - are you an Aries or Scorp? Hope you don't mind me asking xx

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posted March 04, 2005 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themeanreds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why doesn't everyone just ignore BR if he annoys you that much. I don't mean that in a rude way, but when he gets snotty or you think he is trying to pick a fight why don't you just not respond. It kind of seems like he is doing it for attention, or because he's bored. Don't fuel the fire by giving him what he wants.

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posted March 31, 2005 08:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i feel people like BR are a necessity of every society , same here but plz this is a reqest to everyone,smart question as well as answers are a necessity but then there is always a better way of being blunt too.
i dont actually blame u . its always better not to judgemental so early.
as for the differencees , i have personally been close to cancers both male and female and i dont think there was any difference except the biological and social one .but i would like to if there really any differences?

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aries-chick
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posted March 31, 2005 09:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love BR...sometimes *cough* *cough* not in this thread

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posted March 31, 2005 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah.. BR and I have fought it out through various threads here. But then he gave me a Pixelpixie fan thread, so naturally, my Leo rising was stilled and satisfied.
PLus, he's funny. When he isn't being a 'Jackhole' ( thanks Proxieme )
I actually like him, abrasive and all. In fact, I referred to myself as an insect in another thread, for his hidden amusement.
YAY BR! But I'l still spank you when you're naughty.

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Azalaksh
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posted March 31, 2005 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BR, you're a Cancer, right (that's with a CAPITAL "C"!)? That capital "C" is also for curmudgeon!
I have a question that kind of relates to SG's original question:
Could the number of planets in "masculine" signs/houses contribute to us acting more "masculine" or "feminine"? I have 7 planets (including Asc) in M, 4 in F, and I was your classic tomboy when I was young. I also have 7 planets in "masculine" houses and 3 planets in "feminine".
Thoughts, anyone?

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aries-chick
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posted March 31, 2005 08:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Azalaksh, I think that deffinetly makes a difference. I have 7 feminine planets and 3 masculine. 4 planets in earth houses, 4 in air houses, 1 of each for fire/water.. so its half half in feminine/masculine. I always get called very feminine. I know it's meant to be a compliment but there's a part of me that goes eeeeek at that comment.. cause being an Aries I'd still like to be seen as a tomboy sometimes. My Pisces best friend (Taurus moon, Aries venus, mars) is convinced she's a tomboy and I'm very feminine and lol I know she means well too by saying that.. but it makes feel like saying noooo I'm a tomboy to damn lol I think have an inner tomboy that I can't seem to project to people..

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posted March 31, 2005 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, aries-chick -- love that about the "inner tomboy"!!! My theory is that we ladies have a stronger inner tomboy if we have a "masculine" Sun sign. Both your Aries and my Libra are masculine day forces, according to Linda. I have a Scorpio friend ("feminine night forces"), and she is very feminine. She can still get her jeans and hiking boots on and go to the woods with me (and enjoy it!) but she has this indefinable feminine something that makes her seem soft and fragile even with her boots on! Whereas I revel in having visible muscles and being strong and aggressive. but I also have Venus in Libra, so I can put on a slinky dress and makeup and heels and still feel comfy and feminine. Is that how you feel too?

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sue g
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posted April 01, 2005 06:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SG (how cool we both have same initials). Would you mind talking about why you cant stand Scorp women, but like the men. I feel if people saw the "other" side of me, they wouldnt stand me either (talk to husband ha ha). The reason I ask is for the purpose of self growth, and the more honesty I receive from others, the more it helps. Could you tell me what your star sign is too? Thans SG and love to you xxx

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