posted March 01, 2005 09:24 PM            

Lanny

This article and others can be found at http://www.elysian.co.uk/astrologicalfertility.htm

Can a woman be fertile twice in one month? And can astrology help determine those fertile times? That is the question that faced the Czech psychiatrist De Eugene Jonas in the 1950's. Significantly, it was through astrology that he believed he found his answer.

Many of Dr Jonas' female patients were Catholics, practicing the rhythm method of contraception. It became apparent that some of them were becoming pregnant during the times of the month when it was thought safe to have sex. These unwanted pregnancies concerned him, and he felt the urge to find out why they had occurred.

Using his research to encompass 'cosmo-biology' as he called his knowledge of astrology, he finally established a link between fertility and astrological movements. One line from Syrian/Babylonian texts sums up his findings neatly : "Woman is fertile during certain phases of the Moon".

After researching the birth data of thousands of women, Dr Jonas found that this mysterious, susceptible time for pregnancy was the recurrence of the natal Sun/Moon angle. Furthermore, the sex of the child could also be predictable - if the Moon was in a positive sign when the Sun/Moon angle recurred, the child would be a boy and likewise a girl if the Moon was in a negative sign.

The announcement of these findings at the time caused consternation in the medical profession, and Jonas was given a very short-sighted ultimatum - he was told in no uncertain terms to choose astrology or medicine, but not both. However, not everyone believed that Jonas' theory was hocus pocus, and some progressive minds embraced the knowledge. Astra international, a private clinic in Vienna, became the leading exponents of the Lunar cycle theory, ignoring the continued horror of the orthodox medical world. They too analysed the data of thousands of pregnant women, and found correspondences with the Lunar cycle to be as high as 97.7 percent.
What then are the implications today of Dr Jonas' theory? Firstly that each woman has a planetary blueprint of her fertility. This blueprint is her Sun/Moon angle at birth, and it comes into operation during her menstrual years.

Let us take the case of a lady we will call Sue as an example. Sue was born with the Moon at 17 degrees Aquarius and the Sun at 19 degrees Leo. Her Sun/Moon angle is therefore 178 degrees. This means that she will experience her Lunar fertile peak just before the Full Moon and will have the possibility of conceiving at this time of the month throughout her fertile life. In other words, the days immediately preceding the Full Moon each month are the ideal time for her to try for a baby - or, should she not wish to conceive, a time when she must be extra careful with contraception. Indeed, contraception should be used for three and a half days before the Sun/Moon angle recurs and for 12 hours afterwards. This accounts for the three-four day possible sperm life and 12 hour egg life.
Returning now to the original question of whether a woman can be fertile twice in one month - if one accepts Jonas' theory, then yes, she can be if the two peaks do not coincide. She may ovulate within her hormonal cycle at quite a different time of the month to the recurrence of her Sun/Moon angle. This perhaps accounts for many of the cases where women become pregnant during menstruation.

It is thought that what causes pregnancy during the Sun/Moon angle recurrence is a possibility of spontaneous ovulation, triggered perhaps by sexual arousal. However, if both the hormonal and the astrological cycles coincide, then it produces a time of the month which is 'super-fertile'. There is a case for arguing that the more a woman tunes in to her own body rhythms through relaxation, meditation and other methods, the more likely the two cycles are to coincide.
This advance in the knowledge of female fertility has important implications for the modern woman. She can now make more accurate choices about whether or not she wishes to conceive, and she can develop a further conscious awareness of her bodily rhythms. This is certainly an interesting theory for all those who seek a practical application of astrology!

As a final thought, we should perhaps consider that the Moon has always been regarded as a symbol of fertility, by most ancient peoples. Perhaps in times gone by, women were once trained in understanding their personal Lunar cycles - perhaps the theory uncovered by Dr Jonas is only a retrieval of previous lost knowledge? Either way, he has done a great service to woman-kind, and, surely, given us all food for thought.

posted March 05, 2005 10:51 AM            

Wow - I read the part in Lindas universal codes, many moons ago - excuse the pun, on Astro-biology and was fascinated by it. You ppear to have looked even deeper into it. I go with the theory of the moon and conception. And also with your breakdown of it. The only thing which doesn't add up, is the 97.7 percent success rate. The stars are in effect set?? therefore success should be 100 percent. The reasons of the non total success rate could be down to incorrect birth data, from adopted individuals or wrong times of birth?? but as for your basic comment. Yes it is possible to be receptive twice in any one month. Not often, but yes. There are the odd months which have two full moons? Like October 2004 for example.

posted March 18, 2005 10:15 AM              

This is all very interesting. There's a lot of wisdom in looking at the Moon in relation to women's cycles.

It is possible to get pregnant during menstruation if a woman has an early ovulation. You see, on its own, sperm has a pretty short lifespan, but with the added medium of the fertile quality cervical fluid, well, you're looking it keeping for 3-5 days...so, if you had sex on day 5 of your cycle during your period and there was cervical fluid present in fertile quality and then, you ovulated early on day 8 or 9, well, you are looking at a possible pregnancy...

posted March 18, 2005 11:27 PM            

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004655.html

Best Wishes...

A

posted April 13, 2005 10:45 AM              

Some of this doesn't look like fun, but any type of birth control other than hormonal invasion is worth a good look! (They can put a man on the moon).

www.fertilityuk.org/nfps410.html

Tell us more!

I also came across these two NEW methods of birth control, one for females, one for males. Anyone have any experience with Essure or Vasclip?

posted September 12, 2021 05:27 AM            

I’m newly learning how to track my own fertility as a woman with Billing method... very liberating experience.

Sun position 330°07’18’’ (= 0° Pisces)
Moon (Lunar) position 299°41’49’’ (= 29° Capricorn)

Soli-Lunar phase329°34’31’’ (Moon position - Sun position)

The same Soli-Lunar phase, when there is a high probability of conception:

For example, the days leading up to “September 4th” is my latest Moon Phase return... this moon phase period is in fact 12 days after already Ovulating, the egg has a lifespan off tops 24 hours?

Recently my cycle (menstruation) had began on September 7th. Which means, my own “Lunar-Phase Return” is usually five days before my period... this seem close to impossible for fertilization

posted September 12, 2021 03:02 PM            

Go to extended charts
Go to Special (after tab for Round)
Scroll all the way down to the bottom of list:
Under Other --
They have Biorhythms chart.
Then one called "Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar"

If you print one out, and try marking your own menstruations on the grid of that calendar for a while, you might find if there's a correlation?

If you find it works, contact Astrodienst and leave a word with the Chart's creator.